How do you guys decide to stick with one deck and keep playing with it? When I watch streamers online, they usually have 1-2 decks that they play consistently. However, I find it very difficult to do this. When I'm trying a new deck I give it about 12 games and if I can't win at least 6 of them I get pretty frustrated and delete the deck.
Maybe don't delete the decks? Try to improve them by changing some cards or try to make better in game decisions. After every defeat, always try to figure out which plays contributed to your loss.
Maybe don't delete the decks? Try to improve them by changing some cards or try to make better in game decisions. After every defeat, always try to figure out which plays contributed to your loss.
The plays that contribute to my losses are opponents casting force of nature + savage roar, or spamming hunter hero power and charge minion.
Question: If you're in a canoe, paddling upstream, and all four wheels fall off, how many pancakes does it take to sand the doghouse if there's 28 frogs in the oven?
Maybe don't delete the decks? Try to improve them by changing some cards or try to make better in game decisions. After every defeat, always try to figure out which plays contributed to your loss.
The plays that contribute to my losses are opponents casting force of nature + savage roar, or spamming hunter hero power and charge minion.
Well since you're playing perfectly then I'd say focus on tweaking the decks. There's clearly nothing you can improve upon in game so the issue is probably the decks.
Make sure you like the deck you're sticking with and that it suits your play style. Do you like playing control, combo, or aggro? Also, make sure the deck is good enough against the current decks you're seeing (as judged by someone other than you). Then just keep at it. It really does take a long time to get good at a particular deck. (Even if you feel like your opponents just keep getting cheap wins)
Also, if there are certain decks that you feel keep beating you, such as Combo Druid or Face Hunter, maybe try those decks out. Worst case is you'll get a better idea of how they work, and be able to play against them better.
Another thing to consider is the deck's weaknesses. This is a biggy.
You CANNOT WIN VS EVERY DECK. You WILL have decks that have an advantage on you. ID them. Figure out which decks its weak to and don't let those losses determine your feelings about the deck.
Thus look at what decks you are facing and make sure you can beat over half of them. Then the deck types that you can't fight against remain difficult. once everything is established you can consider tweaking the deck to get a better chance, but don't fret over those 6 FoN druid losses when you're 14-0 vs face hunter.
That's how the pros stick to their decks. They let the losses happen so long as it's the losses they are expecting and they don't see too many of those opponents around. The pursuit for +50% and as high as they can. They don't push for 100% then declare failure when they miss.
Basically i would play different variations of the same deck. Like, start with a 1.0 version, then add and subtract cards to make it better each and every time. That way, you are keeping up with the meta, while knowing that if the meta ever shifts backwards, you have the exact deck list designed for that meta.
I have a hard time playing the same deck (or class, even) more than a few games in a row. So I've shifted my focus to winning at least 1 game/class/day to grind gold heroes, and float at whatever rank that gets me.
If I still feel like playing after my 9 mandatory wins, I just play whatever sounds fun.
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Whenever I run some new brews, I play about 6-8 games with it and make mental notes of what to swap out.
When playing in a losing situation, ask yourself "What card would be PERFECT to have right now in hand?" and see how many times you still need that card. Then ask yourself "What card always pops up in my hand, but never really gets played?" and consider trashing it. Sometimes you'll find that a very bizarre mana curve makes for a solid deck.
I'll often have 2 different versions of the same deck for when the meta is very aggro and when it's very control.
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The reason competitive players can hold out is because, despite what streams might suggest, they don't actually care about losses. Their goal is to play what's best, and to improve. You can't control whether you win or lose, you can only control the quality of your plays. Every deck in hearthstone has very vital choices, (if you're thinking of exceptions, you are quite likely biased against these decks and that is hurting your ability to play competitively) and a lot of the thrill in the game is making the best choices with a list. The other thing is, observe the meta. Know the match ups of a list, know what you're running into, and adjust accordingly. They change decks because there's a sufficient enough shift in the meta, or because they want to learn more information, be it about a different list or about a new list altogether.
If you're changing because of how much you're winning or losing, you're being what is known as 'outcome dependant.' This is a very dangerous mindset to have and can make anything, be it games or work or social interactions, feel beyond hellish. Make your goal to find the best decisions and execute them perfectly, and the results can never bother you.
Trust me streamers care about losing just as much as everyone, they've just learned how to accept their defeats, learn, and move on without getting to salty. Forsen is a perfect example of this kappa.
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Well, I guess 12 games is pretty much nothing compared to how deep is the matchup for every class. I know that losing again, and again for the same line of play is awful and seems that the particular deck you are playing is awful as well but my point is that if you are playing a deck which already got to higher rank with another player it demonstrate you can get there. I had a similar issue with my control shaman while watching a professional player at legend with the same cards while I not even had 50% winrate. 200 matches later I basically expect almost every play from my opponent, I know what point of the game I have my weakness and how the matchup works. I know that when I face 5 priests in a row I can not expect too much of the deck, while when It's handlock or warrior I have my beautiful moments. Now I am trying paladin, think it fits in my playerstyle. Yes, i'm losing to amazing curves and unfavorable match-ups over and over but improving my winrate.
You just have to make changes to your deck to give you more favorable matchups. If FoN + Savage Roar combo keeps killing you, try adding Loatheb and some taunts (like sludge belcher or sen'jin) to your deck to counter act this
After advanced research pieguy396 i have concluded that the answer is 78 because aliens don't wear hats.
Close, the actual answer is 60, because footballs don't have feathers.
Except Wednesday, when the answer is 0 because teddy bears have stuffing
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Question: If you're in a canoe, paddling upstream, and all four wheels fall off, how many pancakes does it take to sand the doghouse if there's 28 frogs in the oven?
Find a deck you enjoy playing and feel is "good", then stick with it. Your gut might be right in wanting to change, but it sounds like you're going on tilt after a few losses and playing badly.
There are ways to beat druid combo, you can play to conserve your life and minimize trap damage against hunter, and you can always tech in a card or two to beat common bad match-ups.
I can tell you this - everyone sucks at mulligans. Even the pros get it wrong, and you have to play many games to get a handle for which cards are worth keeping - probably even worth keeping records for each match-up. It's unfortunate that one of the most important decisions all game happens in seconds before the game even starts, but you'll always have room to improve.
Making a few card switches depending on how cards are working out for you will gradually improve the deck.
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For me, I tend to stick with decks that are powerful and proactive. If you have a solid plan for winning the game then you will stomp all the decks that are uncertain or packed with answers not threats. This is probably why you lose so much to druid, by playing straight into his plan of getting you down to 14 life or however much his combo will do.
Maybe don't delete the decks? Try to improve them by changing some cards or try to make better in game decisions. After every defeat, always try to figure out which plays contributed to your loss.
The plays that contribute to my losses are opponents casting force of nature + savage roar, or spamming hunter hero power and charge minion.
Taunt is your friend. Also, try killing the Druid before turn 9, it helps u win.
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How do you guys decide to stick with one deck and keep playing with it? When I watch streamers online, they usually have 1-2 decks that they play consistently. However, I find it very difficult to do this. When I'm trying a new deck I give it about 12 games and if I can't win at least 6 of them I get pretty frustrated and delete the deck.
Maybe don't delete the decks? Try to improve them by changing some cards or try to make better in game decisions. After every defeat, always try to figure out which plays contributed to your loss.
"Put your face in the light!" - Tirion Fordring
The plays that contribute to my losses are opponents casting force of nature + savage roar, or spamming hunter hero power and charge minion.
Then add taunts
Question: If you're in a canoe, paddling upstream, and all four wheels fall off, how many pancakes does it take to sand the doghouse if there's 28 frogs in the oven?
Answer: I have no time for games!
Well since you're playing perfectly then I'd say focus on tweaking the decks. There's clearly nothing you can improve upon in game so the issue is probably the decks.
Nothing doing, traveler.
Make sure you like the deck you're sticking with and that it suits your play style. Do you like playing control, combo, or aggro? Also, make sure the deck is good enough against the current decks you're seeing (as judged by someone other than you). Then just keep at it. It really does take a long time to get good at a particular deck. (Even if you feel like your opponents just keep getting cheap wins)
Also, if there are certain decks that you feel keep beating you, such as Combo Druid or Face Hunter, maybe try those decks out. Worst case is you'll get a better idea of how they work, and be able to play against them better.
Another thing to consider is the deck's weaknesses. This is a biggy.
You CANNOT WIN VS EVERY DECK. You WILL have decks that have an advantage on you. ID them. Figure out which decks its weak to and don't let those losses determine your feelings about the deck.
Thus look at what decks you are facing and make sure you can beat over half of them. Then the deck types that you can't fight against remain difficult. once everything is established you can consider tweaking the deck to get a better chance, but don't fret over those 6 FoN druid losses when you're 14-0 vs face hunter.
That's how the pros stick to their decks. They let the losses happen so long as it's the losses they are expecting and they don't see too many of those opponents around. The pursuit for +50% and as high as they can. They don't push for 100% then declare failure when they miss.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
After advanced research pieguy396 i have concluded that the answer is 78 because aliens don't wear hats.
RIP yogg-saron good things don't last forever :(
Basically i would play different variations of the same deck. Like, start with a 1.0 version, then add and subtract cards to make it better each and every time. That way, you are keeping up with the meta, while knowing that if the meta ever shifts backwards, you have the exact deck list designed for that meta.
TGT Deck Updates Are (Finally) Out!
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/194068-forecasts-priest-tgt-update
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/212671-forecasts-basic-priest
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/193196-hunter-rush-tgt
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/201238-definitely-not-tirion-dnt
I have a hard time playing the same deck (or class, even) more than a few games in a row. So I've shifted my focus to winning at least 1 game/class/day to grind gold heroes, and float at whatever rank that gets me.
If I still feel like playing after my 9 mandatory wins, I just play whatever sounds fun.
Feel free to add me if you play on NA! iMPose#1429
Whenever I run some new brews, I play about 6-8 games with it and make mental notes of what to swap out.
When playing in a losing situation, ask yourself "What card would be PERFECT to have right now in hand?" and see how many times you still need that card. Then ask yourself "What card always pops up in my hand, but never really gets played?" and consider trashing it. Sometimes you'll find that a very bizarre mana curve makes for a solid deck.
I'll often have 2 different versions of the same deck for when the meta is very aggro and when it's very control.
Building Quirky Decks Every Week, Loving Life at Rank 15!
The reason competitive players can hold out is because, despite what streams might suggest, they don't actually care about losses. Their goal is to play what's best, and to improve. You can't control whether you win or lose, you can only control the quality of your plays. Every deck in hearthstone has very vital choices, (if you're thinking of exceptions, you are quite likely biased against these decks and that is hurting your ability to play competitively) and a lot of the thrill in the game is making the best choices with a list.
The other thing is, observe the meta. Know the match ups of a list, know what you're running into, and adjust accordingly. They change decks because there's a sufficient enough shift in the meta, or because they want to learn more information, be it about a different list or about a new list altogether.
If you're changing because of how much you're winning or losing, you're being what is known as 'outcome dependant.' This is a very dangerous mindset to have and can make anything, be it games or work or social interactions, feel beyond hellish. Make your goal to find the best decisions and execute them perfectly, and the results can never bother you.
Trust me streamers care about losing just as much as everyone, they've just learned how to accept their defeats, learn, and move on without getting to salty. Forsen is a perfect example of this kappa.
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Well, I guess 12 games is pretty much nothing compared to how deep is the matchup for every class. I know that losing again, and again for the same line of play is awful and seems that the particular deck you are playing is awful as well but my point is that if you are playing a deck which already got to higher rank with another player it demonstrate you can get there. I had a similar issue with my control shaman while watching a professional player at legend with the same cards while I not even had 50% winrate. 200 matches later I basically expect almost every play from my opponent, I know what point of the game I have my weakness and how the matchup works. I know that when I face 5 priests in a row I can not expect too much of the deck, while when It's handlock or warrior I have my beautiful moments. Now I am trying paladin, think it fits in my playerstyle. Yes, i'm losing to amazing curves and unfavorable match-ups over and over but improving my winrate.
You just have to make changes to your deck to give you more favorable matchups. If FoN + Savage Roar combo keeps killing you, try adding Loatheb and some taunts (like sludge belcher or sen'jin) to your deck to counter act this
Dumping any deck that doesn't go at least 6-6 in its first 12. Hows that working out for ya rank wise
December rank 74 legend :)
Run 100 games at least with a new deck, making minor tweaks along the way. At least you get a good sample size that way.
TGT Deck Updates Are (Finally) Out!
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/194068-forecasts-priest-tgt-update
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/212671-forecasts-basic-priest
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/193196-hunter-rush-tgt
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/201238-definitely-not-tirion-dnt
Close, the actual answer is 60, because footballs don't have feathers.
Except Wednesday, when the answer is 0 because teddy bears have stuffing
Question: If you're in a canoe, paddling upstream, and all four wheels fall off, how many pancakes does it take to sand the doghouse if there's 28 frogs in the oven?
Answer: I have no time for games!
Find a deck you enjoy playing and feel is "good", then stick with it. Your gut might be right in wanting to change, but it sounds like you're going on tilt after a few losses and playing badly.
There are ways to beat druid combo, you can play to conserve your life and minimize trap damage against hunter, and you can always tech in a card or two to beat common bad match-ups.
I can tell you this - everyone sucks at mulligans. Even the pros get it wrong, and you have to play many games to get a handle for which cards are worth keeping - probably even worth keeping records for each match-up. It's unfortunate that one of the most important decisions all game happens in seconds before the game even starts, but you'll always have room to improve.
Making a few card switches depending on how cards are working out for you will gradually improve the deck.
---
For me, I tend to stick with decks that are powerful and proactive. If you have a solid plan for winning the game then you will stomp all the decks that are uncertain or packed with answers not threats. This is probably why you lose so much to druid, by playing straight into his plan of getting you down to 14 life or however much his combo will do.
Taunt is your friend. Also, try killing the Druid before turn 9, it helps u win.
"Put your face in the light!" - Tirion Fordring