So posting banter aside... does anybody find it puzzling that you still can't have all the content in a game after such an investment in the game itself. Regardless of subscription, micro transaction or any other pricing model it seems like that accumulated total should get you all the content the game has to offer... which in this case would be all regular and golden cards. Granted it was across 3 servers but still...
I don't think it's puzzling. Brute forcing golden cards with money would take far more than $4k.
To be clear my statements were my opinion, however, as I stated though no financial planner is going to back this. Let's be subjective and not even directly related to OP: Say you make $100k/yr. $4k is ~4% (actually more since it is after tax). While that is not a large percentage it is still enough of one to be a poor decision, which is what I stated. I'm fine with hobbies, I clearly have them myself and also play HS which provides me no return on my time or investment. There is a big difference between enjoying a fun diversion or hobby and sinking over $4k into a virtual free card game. Regardless of income, that is $360/month. Again, everyone is free to their own opinions and thoughts but $360/mo for a virtual card game is not sound financial decision making, even for a fun diversion/hobby. Most of the replies here have been relativistic/rationalizing/encouraging and even though I know it is unpopular I dared to be one of the few to point out that it is not the best decision. Sure, it is not the worst either, so there's that I guess.
This is the most absurd post I've seen in a few months on here (and that's saying something). Do you even have any experience with financial advisers? I do. FAs provide people with guidelines on how to spend their money. One of the categories they provide is flexible spending and a sub-category of that is entertainment. The recommended percentage of take-home pay that should be spent on entertainment varies but let's just say its 5%. If you make $100k per year then 5% is $5k. The FA doesn't say " You should only spend that $5k on these types of entertainment." If you like to watch money burn, if that is entertainment to you then you could literally just burn the cash in your kitchen. Just don't burn more than $5k. If Person A wants to spend more or all of their entertainment budget on Hearthstone then they can do it. There is no "justifiability" standard. You don't sound like anyone that has a clue about what a financial adviser would advise.
Hmm... so it is the "most absurd" thing posted yet I said exactly what you did. I stated that it was 4% of a mythical $100k/yr. earner's income which is not very high but is still not insignificant. When I mentioned a financial planner I was simply stating that no one is going to say $360/mo. could not be better spent/invested. If HS is truly your only hobby/interest, then sure 4% is not a big deal. If there is even one other pursuit in the same vein, then that is ~8% of income and it does become more significant. Trust me, I knew what I was in for and I wasn't disappointed.
How 'bout this: Yeah! You are soooo cool and spending tons of money for a virtual card game is RAD! You should totally spend even more!!1 Gaming is better than smoking crack so don't even think twice about dropping way more money to finish off those remaining cards on all three servers!
You stated "no financial planner is going to back this." That's lunacy. Also, the percentage of your income you devote to your hobby can vary sensibly depending on how much discretionary income you have. If someone makes $30k per year and has $25k of hard-wired spending (food, gas, savings, etc.) then they should only spend $5/$30k. If the same guy lives frugally and makes $500k then he could spend 50% of his income on his hobby. Yes, 8% is bigger than 4% but without understanding the context its not possible to judge the 8% as unwise.
So posting banter aside... does anybody find it puzzling that you still can't have all the content in a game after such an investment in the game itself. Regardless of subscription, micro transaction or any other pricing model it seems like that accumulated total should get you all the content the game has to offer... which in this case would be all regular and golden cards. Granted it was across 3 servers but still...
To be completely efficient you'd probably have to use spreadsheets per server collection to calculate the highest (money:uncollected-cards) amounts to determine whether to buy GvG packs or Classic ones. And then somehow tie in the average dust value per 'x' amount of packs and factor that in AFTER opening all the packs (so you don't waste dust on crafting goldens you could get from packs). But yeah, I agree with you. Pretty crazy that you're still not full golden after all that. Maybe blizzard will see this and modify the golden drop rates hehe :P
Speaking from my own personal experience and tallying up my own purchase took me:
3600 classic Packs and 1500 GvG packs plus probably another 300 or so packs purchased from gold and obtained from arena, to get a 100% complete gold collection for my North American account. The total cost out of pocket was close to $8000 CAD. Finally decided to go through my own purchase history in detail, i always thought it was closer to $10,000.
Speaking from my own personal experience and tallying up my own purchase took me:
3600 classic Packs and 1500 GvG packs plus probably another 300 or so packs purchased from gold and obtained from arena, to get a 100% complete gold collection for my North American account. The total cost out of pocket was close to $8000 CAD. Finally decided to go through my own purchase history in detail, i always thought it was closer to $10,000.
I'm jelly... did you go to blizzcon 2013 or did you get from ebay?
For me the biggest pain is the naxx goldens... crafting golden weblord just felt bad
the pain of the grind is the game for me. with nothing to chase i'm pretty sure i would not play hearthstone. each arena i do i savor opening that pack because its probably something i dont have or giving me the dust to craft something im missing from classic.
i used to play duel of champions. i ended up buying a couple hundred dollars in cards and as soon as i did i had everything i needed at the time and the game lost all of its appeal. lol so i guess if ever want to quit hearthstone i should just start ponying up real money :)
the pain of the grind is the game for me. with nothing to chase i'm pretty sure i would not play hearthstone. each arena i do i savor opening that pack because its probably something i dont have or giving me the dust to craft something im missing from classic.
i used to play duel of champions. i ended up buying a couple hundred dollars in cards and as soon as i did i had everything i needed at the time and the game lost all of its appeal. lol so i guess if ever want to quit hearthstone i should just start ponying up real money :)
Seems like a rather shallow enjoyment of the game. I can understand collectability enhancing but not replacing gameplay as the driving force.
Different people have different circumstances. One person may have lots of free time to grind out the dust and gold necessary to craft the cards they want. Other people may not have any free time but have sufficient money to acquire the cards they want via deck purchases. There is no universal rule or right way to enjoy the game.
Been playing since so have been fortunate to be able to get all the exclusive and now impossible to get content like Golden Gelbin amd all cardbacks since season 1. For ETC, I manged to get him via a bidding war a couple months ago now, so I think I got a bit lucky on that as it seems there are none on bid anymore and you have to pay $300 outright for the code. Managed to find a fairly uncompetitive bid that started at $2, so i made that bid with a max bid at $150 and got the code for $100. TESPA I got through a group via facebook for the fee of joining ($10). Did Warlords of Draenor simply because I do play WoW on occasion so I was going to get it anyway, so just grabbed a copy of the deluxe edition game only on Ebay for $50 rather then the whole deluxe collectors edition since the other stuff didnt interest me.
If you going for the golden ETC honestly just keep your eyes peeled for some auctions, im sure they will pop up here and there still, set a max bid up to 90% of its buy now value and then hope to save a little bit, or get lucky like I did and somehow hit an unpopular bid and get a respectable deal, but sadly ETC will jist continue to get more expensive so imo buy it while you can if having the collection is important to you.
Seems like a rather shallow enjoyment of the game. I can understand collectability enhancing but not replacing gameplay as the driving force.
Different people have different circumstances. One person may have lots of free time to grind out the dust and gold necessary to craft the cards they want. Other people may not have any free time but have sufficient money to acquire the cards they want via deck purchases. There is no universal rule or right way to enjoy the game.
I was commenting on post #112. The idea that the grind is the only allure and that the pleasure from the game vanishes at its close.
Wow and I feel like shit for spending almost $600. Strangely I have almost as many cards as him. Missing 24 legendaries atm. Guess it is all RNG.
i'm not sure you read the OP correctly, there's no way you would have that many cards... my NA server was referring to just golden cards missing
$600 would equate to about 12 of the 40 packs, which is 2,400 cards... There are 690 cards, which would be 2,070 for the 3 servers which would mean you would have almost no duplicate cards openings
You are right I did not read it correctly. I did consider myself lucky to have as many legendaries as I do, but I was not counting as gold. I meant I am 24 short total on NA.
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The first thing I took away from this was RNGesus has been truly cruel to you. Still don't have the complete collection after 4k being dropped. I'd hate to see the RNG you get during a match.
Posts like this actually make me feel good. Since I earned every card from arena. Paid Naxx expansion with gold. I will also pay Blackrock with gold. Obviously, I do disenchant every golden card I get. Because it really means nothing to me. Same with card backs. Now here is the really fun part. I'm in the fortunate position that I could afford spending that 4k$+ also. Easily. But I consciously chose not to. Because getting all the cards was part of my motivation, to keep playing Hearthstone. Also my limited card pool forced me to think out of the box with decks. And dont netdeck everything I saw. Its is a way way more interesting and rewarding journey, then if I would just have bought everything.
But im a man with alot of patience. That doesnt need everything right now. Meanwhile I also got Legend rank mutiple times. And infinite arena is also under my belt. In a way I got everything out of the game that I wanted too. And no.... I didnt spend absurds amount of time. I've been in the HS beta way way back, more then a year ago. But I dont think I've missed even 1 quest. Consistent progress will get you everything in life. If you got the right mindset.
Posts like this actually make me feel good. Since I earned every card from arena. Paid Naxx expansion with gold. I will also pay Blackrock with gold. Obviously, I do disenchant every golden card I get. Because it really means nothing to me. Same with card backs. Now here is the really fun part. I'm in the fortunate position that I could afford spending that 4k$+ also. Easily. But I consciously chose not to. Because getting all the cards was part of my motivation, to keep playing Hearthstone. Also my limited card pool forced me to think out of the box with decks. And dont netdeck everything I saw. Its is a way way more interesting and rewarding journey, then if I would just have bought everything.
But im a man with alot of patience. That doesnt need everything right now. Meanwhile I also got Legend rank mutiple times. And infinite arena is also under my belt. In a way I got everything out of the game that I wanted too. And no.... I didnt spend absurds amount of time. I've been in the HS beta way way back, more then a year ago. But I dont think I've missed even 1 quest. Consistent progress will get you everything in life. If you got the right mindset.
Glad I could make you feel good.
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I don't think it's puzzling. Brute forcing golden cards with money would take far more than $4k.
You stated "no financial planner is going to back this." That's lunacy. Also, the percentage of your income you devote to your hobby can vary sensibly depending on how much discretionary income you have. If someone makes $30k per year and has $25k of hard-wired spending (food, gas, savings, etc.) then they should only spend $5/$30k. If the same guy lives frugally and makes $500k then he could spend 50% of his income on his hobby. Yes, 8% is bigger than 4% but without understanding the context its not possible to judge the 8% as unwise.
Sadly... I actually have this spreadsheet haha
Speaking from my own personal experience and tallying up my own purchase took me:
3600 classic Packs and 1500 GvG packs plus probably another 300 or so packs purchased from gold and obtained from arena, to get a 100% complete gold collection for my North American account. The total cost out of pocket was close to $8000 CAD. Finally decided to go through my own purchase history in detail, i always thought it was closer to $10,000.
I'm jelly... did you go to blizzcon 2013 or did you get from ebay?
For me the biggest pain is the naxx goldens... crafting golden weblord just felt bad
the pain of the grind is the game for me. with nothing to chase i'm pretty sure i would not play hearthstone. each arena i do i savor opening that pack because its probably something i dont have or giving me the dust to craft something im missing from classic.
i used to play duel of champions. i ended up buying a couple hundred dollars in cards and as soon as i did i had everything i needed at the time and the game lost all of its appeal. lol so i guess if ever want to quit hearthstone i should just start ponying up real money :)
Grind those golden heroes!
Seems like a rather shallow enjoyment of the game. I can understand collectability enhancing but not replacing gameplay as the driving force.
I don't think this was ever implied
I've only spend $20 and that was for Naxx because I didn't want to farm the 700g per wing....
Different people have different circumstances. One person may have lots of free time to grind out the dust and gold necessary to craft the cards they want. Other people may not have any free time but have sufficient money to acquire the cards they want via deck purchases. There is no universal rule or right way to enjoy the game.
Been playing since so have been fortunate to be able to get all the exclusive and now impossible to get content like Golden Gelbin amd all cardbacks since season 1. For ETC, I manged to get him via a bidding war a couple months ago now, so I think I got a bit lucky on that as it seems there are none on bid anymore and you have to pay $300 outright for the code. Managed to find a fairly uncompetitive bid that started at $2, so i made that bid with a max bid at $150 and got the code for $100. TESPA I got through a group via facebook for the fee of joining ($10). Did Warlords of Draenor simply because I do play WoW on occasion so I was going to get it anyway, so just grabbed a copy of the deluxe edition game only on Ebay for $50 rather then the whole deluxe collectors edition since the other stuff didnt interest me.
If you going for the golden ETC honestly just keep your eyes peeled for some auctions, im sure they will pop up here and there still, set a max bid up to 90% of its buy now value and then hope to save a little bit, or get lucky like I did and somehow hit an unpopular bid and get a respectable deal, but sadly ETC will jist continue to get more expensive so imo buy it while you can if having the collection is important to you.
I was commenting on post #112. The idea that the grind is the only allure and that the pleasure from the game vanishes at its close.
You are right I did not read it correctly. I did consider myself lucky to have as many legendaries as I do, but I was not counting as gold. I meant I am 24 short total on NA.
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Wrong I spend 1800 a year and I purchase Camel 99s every time. But hey to each his own right?
I wasn't saying you implied it. I should just Quote posts for clarity, instead of reply I suppose.
gotcha...
in other fun news of the 48 games i've played today only 39 have been against mage, woo hoo
The first thing I took away from this was RNGesus has been truly cruel to you. Still don't have the complete collection after 4k being dropped. I'd hate to see the RNG you get during a match.
Posts like this actually make me feel good. Since I earned every card from arena. Paid Naxx expansion with gold. I will also pay Blackrock with gold. Obviously, I do disenchant every golden card I get. Because it really means nothing to me. Same with card backs. Now here is the really fun part. I'm in the fortunate position that I could afford spending that 4k$+ also. Easily. But I consciously chose not to. Because getting all the cards was part of my motivation, to keep playing Hearthstone. Also my limited card pool forced me to think out of the box with decks. And dont netdeck everything I saw. Its is a way way more interesting and rewarding journey, then if I would just have bought everything.
But im a man with alot of patience. That doesnt need everything right now. Meanwhile I also got Legend rank mutiple times. And infinite arena is also under my belt. In a way I got everything out of the game that I wanted too. And no.... I didnt spend absurds amount of time. I've been in the HS beta way way back, more then a year ago. But I dont think I've missed even 1 quest. Consistent progress will get you everything in life. If you got the right mindset.
Glad I could make you feel good.