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Hey man, slow down ! First of all, I said you don't need to mulligan for him to have a 7+ (emphasis on the plus signal)/7 on T7 - with mana spared for some nice synergies. With some decent build (not that it's a card which needs a deck to be made around him anyway) you could achieve a huge Bolvar at T7~8 with open mana for a sweeper combo, or to simply increase the chances of it to connect on the next turn.
Cleaning the board works as both synergy and assurance for him to stay on board, while some Divine Shield effect could protect him from any eventual survivor opposing minion, damage spell and weapon classes. We may still get some neutral source of Stealth more reliable than a RNG Spare Part, but give it Divine Shield (although less effective) is very easy for Pally to accomplish.
This is something you will never achieve with Ogre, Golem or Warlod, because:
1) They don't have the potential of getting as big as Bolvar. Ogre and Golem are vanilla (which actually is the only advantage over him at the same time, whatever). Warlord needs much more effort for a limited buff of 6, people which tries to compare both cards are delusional since having 6 creatures at the moment you cast Warlord is far more difficult than actually having 6 minions diyng throughout the game with a Bolvar in hand, and this number can go way higher unlike the the max 6 buff from the neutral. While Warlord is indeed a win-more card (if he gets a huge boost it's because you already has overwhelming board presence anyway), Bolvar can be a measure for countering sweepers and bad trades.
2) The two vanilla may be more consistent, but as I said before their mana cost is prohibitive if you want to achieve some midgame synergies - all of this assuming you're only getting a 6/7~7/7 Bolvar on T6~7, but actually the chances are you'll get a bigger threat with far more options to combo than those two.
Having said this, it's true that Bolvar is particularly weak against Silence effects, but many lists run early game threats that may bait some of this such as Undertaker, Nerubian Egg. On midgame there are Sludge Belcher and 6 drop legendaries (Sylvanas, Cairne) which can force your opponent to spend his hard removal/silence, followed by a turn 7 Bolvar + Argent Protector or turn 8 Bolvar + Coghammer where things can get very favorable.
I'm very convinced that although not a 5 star legendary, it'll see much more play than Velen, Krush .. maybe even Cleef or Antonidas.
As usual, vanilla 1/7
Crazed alchemist effects are considered as buff
are you people F***ing kidding me? a 1/7 for 5 that gets bigger and most of you think because silence is a thing that this card is bad? ITS A 1/7!! you know how hard it is to kill that without hex or a full board? If anything this card will see play in shockadin or something new that uses lots of small minions. I am positive you are going to see this card used a lot. dies to removal, its a bad card *sarcasm*
It would be a 1-7
While I agree with your point, I'm going to note neither of those require a silence to get there: If Oasis Snapjaw had "Your opponent plays the Ironbeak Owl in their hand" (or w/e silence card) it'd probably be played in control decks.
It's simply too situational to be usable imo. Basically you want to use it as anti-aoe or get it off the top with some sort of board clear available (ex: play this + consecrate together). Either way it's quite situational and weak. Definitely a disappointing legend. I think Pally was the one class that would have benefited the most from a 4 mana legendary (the 1st of it's kind) that helps save you from aggro.
you are missing the point tho, if any card was said to be bad because silence exists, deathrattle would never see play along with undertaker, is the point.
Old Murk-Eye and Baron Rivendare are sad you forgot them.
Nope because those cards cost 1-3 mana and are meant entirely for early game. Ever top-decked one late game? Ya, it's a dead turn. If you are talking about the larger deathrattle like sylvanas, well, even if they silence it, it's still a 5/5 to deal with which is definitely a threat. On the other hand, I would literally just leave the 1/7 on board. Wouldn't even bothering removing it. At the 5 mana slot, you need to be playing things that have great impact. It's not awful if you play this as even a 4/7 on that turn although imo belcher is still better. Loatheb is way better if you aren't being threatened by lethal.
lol wut have I done?! RNGeezus will surely be angered by this :(
I think you're confused about what topdeck mode is in Hearthstone. While in Magic, many games can come down to a locked board state where everyone has a ton of stuff in play that almost never happens in Hearthstone. Topdeck doesn't just mean your hand is empty, it means you need something to break a stall. In Hearthstone, the most common occurrence is that both players have an empty board (or mostly useless stuff like totems), one or no cards in their hand and are looking for a big creature to throw on the board to turn the tides. This is why everyone is saying this card sucks. You even went as far as to say that in your "topdeck" situation you have 4 dudes on board you can sacrafice to give your 1/7 +4 attack, but that is so incredibly situational and rare. If you have 4 dudes on the board and no cards in hand, you either overextended or are racing, and in neither of those situations does this card help. Fact.
Okay. I was under the perception of this simply mean your hand is empty so I see your point. I still do not totally agree with your last statement because of the Paladin Hero Power having some utility with this card although, once again, I see your point. Regardless I think only time will tell with this card. It is hard to judge because there are so very many variables that come along with it. Especially with the meta getting shaken up soon and the fact that we don't even know all of the new cards yet.
Okay, that's fair. The situation does exist, it's just very rare. For instance, mage, rogue and druid aren't going to let you have 4 1/1 dudes on the field. Warlock would draw 8 cards by the time you were able to do that and would find gas. In the mirror you're DEFINITELY either racing or trading recruits already. This situation is most common against warrior, hunter and priest, but even in that situation you have to assume that one of the two players has drawn SOMETHING in 4 turns. I'm not saying that situation doesn't exist, but it's super super rare. Anyway, I don't think it will but I hope it turns out to be awesome and you can shove it in all our stupid faces. :)
I'm interested to see what the other class legendaries will be. This seems quite powerful for 5 mana especially when coupled with the pally hero power, but I'm sure blizz has plans to keep it balanced.
Sure sure. You're very right. I am not saying this card is fantastic against everything. I just want to highlight that it was potential if the meta works out in its favor.
And I won't shove it in any faces :P. I will just play it and be happy its viable because it is a fun concept and a card representing a great character.
Well said
Hes good.
5 mana drop that will be at least 4/7. Or more.
turn 2, 3 and 4 palladin gets minions, either from hero power or aldor, acolyte, etc etc.
So he's essentially a 5 drop 4/7 with the possibility to be bigger.
After seeing the other class legendaries, I'm even more dissappointed than before. Now I know how Hunter's felt about their class legendary all the time until Gahz'rilla
What was that about Mal'Ganis?? http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/23941-new-card-malganis
You seen the mage/shaman one, this card looks way better compared to them.
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