Meh Power of the Wild does pretty much the same stuff for 1 less mana, doesn't need to stick on board (pretty much everything can deal 2 damage), have a better body (3/2 for 2 instead of 2/2 for 3) and it actually combo with the new legendary, unlike this card. Playable, but nothing exceptional.
thats why you run 2 of each. Addled Grizzly + Living Roots + Living Roots + Power of Wild = 5 3/3's for 7 mana
This card is a weaker Sword of Justice which rarely saw play, Paladin had/has more token generators and pretty much never played it. This card is potentially infinite, but with a body on the board it can be interacted with and removed unlike SoJ.
Druid now has tons of token generators, and the fact that this bear is 1 mana cheaper than the sword makes a huge difference.
Other than Wisps of the Old gods what token generators does Druid have? Force of Nature and Living Roots. Force and Wisps are unplayable on their own and so is Addler
Paladin is bad at token decks because it lacks the druid's AOE buffs. Sword of Justice is just not a great card for the class. Druids would use the hell out of that thing.
The fact that the Sword of Justice can be played at a turn and then use the effect almost safely the next turns as well deal dmg with it makes it far more flexible and clearly a better card. Look at Death's Bite for blowup turns.
What Addled Grizzly has over the sword is tempo. given both r bad tempo cards though so its bad vs very bad.
In order to capitalize on the Addled Grizzly inevitability effect you need to be very lucky in early turns or w8 for late turns in which case the effect isnt even that strong so the limited charges on Sword of Justice isnt that much of a difference than the average value the bear would provide.
Druid has more synergy atm with tokens than paladin as u said, even if most of those cards are terrible (and you posted some neutral ones that cn fit into paladin as well. not sure why?).
What you compared is synergy not card power levels.
What you compared is synergy not card power levels.
In both cases, the only power in the card comes from synergy. Without it, they are both terrible.
That's not true. imagine an Addled Grizzly being 4/4 for 3 mana and another 1/1 for the same mana cost.
While the difference between those cards isnt that huge, one is stronger than the other and those 0.2 or 0.3 or whatever mana value differences add up in the long run.
What you compared is synergy not card power levels.
In both cases, the only power in the card comes from synergy. Without it, they are both terrible.
That's not true. imagine an Addled Grizzly being 4/4 for 3 mana and another 1/1 for the same mana cost.
While the difference between those cards isnt that huge, one is stronger than the other and those 0.2 or 0.3 or whatever mana value differences add up in the long run.
Yes, your imaginary card is powerful on its own. And it has nothing to do with the real cards we were comparing, which are both terrible without synergies.
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What you compared is synergy not card power levels.
In both cases, the only power in the card comes from synergy. Without it, they are both terrible.
That's not true. imagine an Addled Grizzly being 4/4 for 3 mana and another 1/1 for the same mana cost.
While the difference between those cards isnt that huge, one is stronger than the other and those 0.2 or 0.3 or whatever mana value differences add up in the long run.
Yes, your imaginary card is powerful on its own. And it has nothing to do with the real cards we were comparing, which are both terrible without synergies.
You dont get it? every card has its own value and you calculate that by adding all its benefits not just the synergy it provides, lol. its basic deckbuilding and so simple concept like i dont know what to say lol? u new in card games?
The cards i made up and compared have the same exact mana cost+effect/synergy in druid as the original Addled Grizzly but as you can see stats matter too aside the effect. My imaginary cards had a lot to do with Addled Grizzly. I made the difference in power so big so you could see the difference and reevaluate.
In case of Addled Grizzly vs Sword of Justice the difference isnt big but it exists and while both cards are pretty much terrible without synergies it doesnt mean one isnt stronger than the other. duh.
Playing cards that are even 5-10% stronger than other similar cards can add up in the long run of the game and those differences can even make up tier 1 decks from tier 2.
What you compared is synergy not card power levels.
In both cases, the only power in the card comes from synergy. Without it, they are both terrible.
That's not true. imagine an Addled Grizzly being 4/4 for 3 mana and another 1/1 for the same mana cost.
While the difference between those cards isnt that huge, one is stronger than the other and those 0.2 or 0.3 or whatever mana value differences add up in the long run.
Yes, your imaginary card is powerful on its own. And it has nothing to do with the real cards we were comparing, which are both terrible without synergies.
You dont get it? every card has its own value and you calculate that by adding all its benefits not just the synergy it provides, lol. its basic deckbuilding and so simple concept like i dont know what to say lol? u new in card games?
The cards i made up and compared have the same exact mana cost+effect/synergy in druid as the original Addled Grizzly but as you can see stats matter too aside the effect. My imaginary cards had a lot to do with Addled Grizzly. I made the difference in power so big so you could see the difference and reevaluate.
In case of Addled Grizzly vs Sword of Justice the difference isnt big but it exists and while both cards are pretty much terrible without synergies it doesnt mean one isnt stronger than the other. duh.
Playing cards that are even 5-10% stronger than other similar cards can add up in the long run of the game and those differences can even make up tier 1 decks from tier 2.
My original comment was about synergy, though. I never said anything about overall power level. We weren't even talking about that before you butted in.
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My original comment was about synergy, though. I never said anything about overall power level. We weren't even talking about that before you butted in.
lol sorry for butting in, in ur personal conversation on a community thread, just thought i could provide my cent and have some fun :P
Your comments seemed a bit confusing to me so i thought id see what ur idea behind Addled Grizzly was.
I think our debate has been beneficial to your understanding of Addled Grizzly as well as of the game in general, so thats pretty good.
It works very well with Echoing Ooze because the copied Ooze gets buffed again and you end up with a 2/3 and a 3/4 Ooze. The card is strong when you have a lot of deathrattles on the board ready to trade like a board buffed by Soul of the Forest. I'm running it with Egg Druid atm and it seems to fit in well.
Why/how would a Grizzly give stats to other minions, much less a "addled" one? I don't get the lore concept.
First, it's not an actual bear; it's a Druid in bear form. (You can tell from both the art and the voiceover.)
She buffs everything because she's confused by the Whispers and is flinging her spells left and right. That's why they are weaker (only +1/+1) but are hitting every ally.
Bringing this to the top. Combos well with Warden, but I admit my ignorance in deck building. What do better minds think about this is the possible future?
Bringing this to the top. Combos well with Warden, but I admit my ignorance in deck building. What do better minds think about this is the possible future?
I can't claim to be a better mind, but in my experience, the +1/+1 usually isn't good enough. She gets the most value with small minions, but she's too slow for aggro decks. Her buff is less meaningful for big minions, and she'll rarely hit more than one of those.
Token druid might make use of her if you're lacking some other component, but you'll want to swap her out at your first opportunity.
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"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
Why/how would a Grizzly give stats to other minions, much less a "addled" one? I don't get the lore concept.
It works very well with Echoing Ooze because the copied Ooze gets buffed again and you end up with a 2/3 and a 3/4 Ooze. The card is strong when you have a lot of deathrattles on the board ready to trade like a board buffed by Soul of the Forest. I'm running it with Egg Druid atm and it seems to fit in well.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
Bringing this to the top. Combos well with Warden, but I admit my ignorance in deck building. What do better minds think about this is the possible future?
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland