i have tried to do matches with shaman and its basically under powered heavily but shaman isnt completly useless, you can climb ladder for about 4 stars if you use 3-4 hours, its hard to see shaman being better then warrior even doe warrior seems to be worst then shaman.
Shaman does have allot of burst thanks to bloodlust but when you face opponents who keep clearing your stuff and you have bad mulligan, its basically gg in the turn 3.
Demon Hunter is basically shaman killer in all Angels, constant aoe, big minions and nonstop pressure from turn 1, like you need really good luck with 0 iq demon Hunter as your opponent.
i think best deck BYFAR has been galagrond evolve shaman, you need allot of good rng but you can out tempo your opponents when you hit good evolve but again, YOU NEED THE WEAPON 100% WITHOUT IT ITS A GOD DAMN STRUGGLE AND YOU LOOSE.
ps. also…. who the f*ck designed lady vaash? who was the top 90 iq idiot who designed this Card? literally worst then priest or rogue legendary! its soo bad that none of the shaman decks use it! its the most situational card on the planet. You might think? "what are you talking about? its far sight for spells" well EXACTLY! ITS SPELLS ONLY AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHEN YOU DRAW THE DAMN PRIME, YOU COULD GET 0-1 SPELLS WHEN THAT DUMB BIMBO SITS AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR DECK.
Shaman is basically unplayable, which i am kind of sad about. This expansion it has gotten very few playable cards, situational legendaries with very few build around cards.
Compare this class to warlock, DH or mage, their cards are amazing in comparison.
Torrent, Shattered Rumbler, Lady Vashj and Marshspawn are fine cards, but dont fit or create any new decks as they are weak compared to other classes cards and have no way to win apart from getting lucky.
the evolve package have no minions they really want to evolve
and now battlecry package is much weaker with the sudderwock gone.
i dont love shaman as i know how much trouble it created in the past, but dam in standard is almost beyond under powered
Shaman is basically unplayable, which i am kind of sad about. This expansion it has gotten very few playable cards, situational legendaries with very few build around cards.
Compare this class to warlock, DH or mage, their cards are amazing in comparison.
Torrent, Shattered Rumbler, Lady Vashj and Marshspawn are fine cards, but dont fit or create any new decks as they are weak compared to other classes cards and have no way to win apart from getting lucky.
the evolve package have no minions they really want to evolve
and now battlecry package is much weaker with the sudderwock gone.
i dont love shaman as i know how much trouble it created in the past, but dam in standard is almost beyond under powered
To be fair, the only good Warlock deck at the moment (which is Galakrond Warlock) is not playing a single card from Ashes of Outland, so it's not like this expansion was exceptionally good for him. I would say, It's rather a matter of coincidence. Demon Hunter polarized entire meta and Warlock was lucky enough to take advantage of this mess. I'm sure, that future nerfs will shake everything down and Warlock will be yet again mediocre at best.
I agree with InfernalDark. Blizzard has made it obvious that there will never be a balanced meta and there will usually be a class in each meta that is borderline unplayable. This isn't nearly as bad as Mean Streets where both Hunter AND Paladin were less than 1%. So it's fine. Shaman can be in the trash for a few months until other players have had their fun.
Lets be honest about shudderwock ok, it was basically the only card expect galagrond that kept shaman on the top of the water and most of times even when i used shudderwock, there would still be soo many games that i lost because hunters were too aggresive, rogues kept generating cards while putting on pressure, priest literally and i mean LITERALLY kept board clearing everything for 4 times in the game.
two to four 8/8s arent even that broken when almost every class in the game can deal with them because galagrond is slow or you are already dead in the mud.
Last meta was obviously hunter,rogue and priest heavy. shaman was thriving decent enough with the cards that it had but now its just complete shit with paladin and warrior.
i have tried to do matches with shaman and its basically under powered heavily but shaman isnt completly useless, you can climb ladder for about 4 stars if you use 3-4 hours, its hard to see shaman being better then warrior even doe warrior seems to be worst then shaman.
Shaman does have allot of burst thanks to bloodlust but when you face opponents who keep clearing your stuff and you have bad mulligan, its basically gg in the turn 3.
Demon Hunter is basically shaman killer in all Angels, constant aoe, big minions and nonstop pressure from turn 1, like you need really good luck with 0 iq demon Hunter as your opponent.
i think best deck BYFAR has been galagrond evolve shaman, you need allot of good rng but you can out tempo your opponents when you hit good evolve but again, YOU NEED THE WEAPON 100% WITHOUT IT ITS A GOD DAMN STRUGGLE AND YOU LOOSE.
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ps. also…. who the f*ck designed lady vaash? who was the top 90 iq idiot who designed this Card? literally worst then priest or rogue legendary! its soo bad that none of the shaman decks use it! its the most situational card on the planet. You might think? "what are you talking about? its far sight for spells" well EXACTLY! ITS SPELLS ONLY AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHEN YOU DRAW THE DAMN PRIME, YOU COULD GET 0-1 SPELLS WHEN THAT DUMB BIMBO SITS AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR DECK.
Shaman is basically unplayable, which i am kind of sad about. This expansion it has gotten very few playable cards, situational legendaries with very few build around cards.
Compare this class to warlock, DH or mage, their cards are amazing in comparison.
Torrent, Shattered Rumbler, Lady Vashj and Marshspawn are fine cards, but dont fit or create any new decks as they are weak compared to other classes cards and have no way to win apart from getting lucky.
the evolve package have no minions they really want to evolve
and now battlecry package is much weaker with the sudderwock gone.
i dont love shaman as i know how much trouble it created in the past, but dam in standard is almost beyond under powered
What is this madman trying to tell us?
Well deserved, you had your fun with Shuddercuck
To be fair, the only good Warlock deck at the moment (which is Galakrond Warlock) is not playing a single card from Ashes of Outland, so it's not like this expansion was exceptionally good for him. I would say, It's rather a matter of coincidence. Demon Hunter polarized entire meta and Warlock was lucky enough to take advantage of this mess. I'm sure, that future nerfs will shake everything down and Warlock will be yet again mediocre at best.
I agree with InfernalDark. Blizzard has made it obvious that there will never be a balanced meta and there will usually be a class in each meta that is borderline unplayable. This isn't nearly as bad as Mean Streets where both Hunter AND Paladin were less than 1%. So it's fine. Shaman can be in the trash for a few months until other players have had their fun.
Lets be honest about shudderwock ok, it was basically the only card expect galagrond that kept shaman on the top of the water and most of times even when i used shudderwock, there would still be soo many games that i lost because hunters were too aggresive, rogues kept generating cards while putting on pressure, priest literally and i mean LITERALLY kept board clearing everything for 4 times in the game.
two to four 8/8s arent even that broken when almost every class in the game can deal with them because galagrond is slow or you are already dead in the mud.
Last meta was obviously hunter,rogue and priest heavy. shaman was thriving decent enough with the cards that it had but now its just complete shit with paladin and warrior.
Yup. Shammy-Sham needed a build around tool like Shudz or Hagz hero card. Didnt recieve..
Very possibly next one.