I literally meet only warriors right now on the high legend , this class is out of control and everysingle archetype is broken , its not like the archetypes are smart , the raw power of warrior cards can make any deck effective and there is nothing who can challenge warriors , how much uglier it can get?
nzoth first mate
ravaging ghoul
3/3 dragon AND charge
fiery war axe
bloodhoof brave..
we see some incredible early game cards , the best in the game. The great thing with warriors is not that they have some awesome early game and then they lose , their late game is just as sick as their early game , every class has a weakness , warriors have none.
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Every single archetype meaning... Tempo Warrior ? That's it, the only deck you could consider Tier 1 right now, which still has a lot of bad matchups and costs nearly 10K dust. Meanwhile 1K dust face , sorry, totem shaman (kek) and zoo vomiting minions @ legend, yet you complain about Warrior, Wow.
Warrior has many different archetypes, true, more than any other class, buuuuuuttttt none of them are really Earth-shatteringly (yes shatteringly) good.
Warriors have weaknesses. They are reliant on crazy good weapons... that can be destroyed. Their 'big and expensive' removal, Brawl, is among the worst in the game because it doesn't clear the board but does trigger Deathrattles. Their hero power is very defensive and quite frankly crap most of the time, even in a fatigue race it matters surprisingly little.
I literally meet only warriors right now on the high legend , this class is out of control and everysingle archetype is broken , its not like the archetypes are smart , the raw power of warrior cards can make any deck effective and there is nothing who can challenge warriors , how much uglier it can get?
nzoth first mate
ravaging ghoul
3/3 dragon AND charge
fiery war axe
bloodhoof brave..
we see some incredible early game cards , the best in the game. The great thing with warriors is not that they have some awesome early game and then they lose , their late game is just as sick as their early game , every class has a weakness , warriors have none.
Hunters, zoo and shamans are destroying the meta using under 2k dust decks and you are mad because warriors have an average result using a 10k+ dust deck? Ok...
this is literally the funniest post i have seen in quite some time. blizz loves warrior? hahaha yep thats why warrior has the most useless card ever created Tentacles for Arms and for exmple shaman has a 4 mana 7/7 or the best weapon in the game or the best 1 drop in the game. seems legit. warrior has allways been the top control class and blizz is doing everything in their power to enable agrro decks which is not in favour of the class. ofcourse they have to say the opposite but if u look at the meta and the cards some other classes have its no contest. if anything blizz promotes to play shaman, hunter, zoolock and to my surprise heal n'zoth paladin!?!? wtf blizz encouraging control play style?!? me shocked.
I literally meet only warriors right now on the high legend , this class is out of control and everysingle archetype is broken , its not like the archetypes are smart , the raw power of warrior cards can make any deck effective and there is nothing who can challenge warriors , how much uglier it can get?
nzoth first mate
ravaging ghoul
3/3 dragon AND charge
fiery war axe
bloodhoof brave..
we see some incredible early game cards , the best in the game. The great thing with warriors is not that they have some awesome early game and then they lose , their late game is just as sick as their early game , every class has a weakness , warriors have none.
And your point is?
my point is that some of these cards should be nerfed , im ok with warriors having some ultra good cards , every class have that but i think this is too much , its simple math , no other class can outvalue warrior's turns , your only chance to beat warriors is nzoth pala and even then its not clear counter and pala has other bad matchups.
I mean wtf? destroy any minion for 1 cost , draw 59394939 cards with battle rage , i can add more and more to this , warrior is a sick class , there is a reason EVERYONE plays warrior at legend right now , they have no reason to play anything else.
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Alexstrasza's Champion is from TGT. Fiery War Axe has been there, well, the whole time. A lot of people thought warrior would fade away without Death's Bite. It has returned in a big way to terrorize Shaman and Zoo - the success of the class is one of the bright spots in the meta right now.
Alexstrasza's Champion is from TGT. Fiery War Axe has been there, well, the whole time. A lot of people thought warrior would fade away without Death's Bite. It has returned in a big way to terrorize Shaman and Zoo - the success of the class is one of the bright spots in the meta right now.
warrior is a tier of his own and not a simple bright deck , he is far above tier 1. , before the release of wotog every other class had the tools to fight him , nax stuff etc , now its impossible.
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For me warrior has been always the core loved class of hearthstone. Yes, sometimes theres a seasonal loved class ( now is Shaman) But warrior is always there. Warrior has always good cards, good synergy cards with his hero power, good weapons, good removals, and average good creatures. if you wacth thechampionchips stadistics his is normaly the most played class ( can be other class that is more played in a given champ but we all talking of global) And normaly always has a deck in t1 and in t2.
And yes, in EU server at least, the last week i have seen a lot of warriors. Have no global statisitcs but is the class i have played more agaisnt this month by far, even more than Shaman.
Said that. Deserves warrior a nerft? i would like it in personal thought but in more objetive think ill dont ask for a nerf yet. Is not owelhelming as was in the past ( patron golden reign) and you can tech now more easy than before aganish him.
there are easy decks to play and harder decks to play, i think it should be more rewarding if you manage to play a harder deck well...(harder doesn't necessarily mean more difficult, a deck like casino mage is highly reliant on rng therefor harder to pull off then a very consistent zoo deck)
i dont think the price of a deck has anything to do with how well it deserves to do.
in retrospective the warsong nerf makes a lot of sense.
I still love my big fat control warrior above anything else.
I literally meet only warriors right now on the high legend , this class is out of control and everysingle archetype is broken , its not like the archetypes are smart , the raw power of warrior cards can make any deck effective and there is nothing who can challenge warriors , how much uglier it can get?
nzoth first mate
ravaging ghoul
3/3 dragon AND charge
fiery war axe
bloodhoof brave..
we see some incredible early game cards , the best in the game. The great thing with warriors is not that they have some awesome early game and then they lose , their late game is just as sick as their early game , every class has a weakness , warriors have none.
And your point is?
my point is that some of these cards should be nerfed , im ok with warriors having some ultra good cards , every class have that but i think this is too much , its simple math , no other class can outvalue warrior's turns , your only chance to beat warriors is nzoth pala and even then its not clear counter and pala has other bad matchups.
I mean wtf? destroy any minion for 1 cost , draw 59394939 cards with battle rage , i can add more and more to this , warrior is a sick class , there is a reason EVERYONE plays warrior at legend right now , they have no reason to play anything else.
Naaaah. They're fine as they are. Midrange Shaman, Midrange Hunter, Ramp Druid, N'Zoth pala, Zoo, Miracle Rogue all counter CW.
Just don't be greedy, and learn to play against them.
As for individual cards you mentioned:
-N'Zoth's First Mate: gives you a crappy 1/3 weapon. Then need to get to turn 3 to pump that weapon (and if you get the card to do it) -Ravaging Ghoul: it was necessary after death's bite rotated out. -Alexstrasza's Champion: is barely played, so i won't bother about it. Also, no dragon = 2/3 for 3 useless minion. -Fiery War Axe: it's warrior class, garrosh needs a cheap weapon. It's fine as it is. -Bloodhoof Brave: learn to play around him. it's not that hard. -Battle Rage: you need a to develop a full board, and get them damaged to profit on BR's efect. Only patron can effectively profit from it. Pirate warrior is pretty easy to counter.
As for other common warrior cards, like Execute and Brawl, learn to play around them. They're just 2 copies of each available to play.
warrior is a tier of his own and not a simple bright deck , he is far above tier 1. , before the release of wotog every other class had the tools to fight him , nax stuff etc , now its impossible.
I don't think there is any deck above tier 1 right now. Tempo Warrior is strong, but it has weak matchups just like every other deck. There will always be a deck and a class that is on top, but just being the top deck or the top class doesn't make them broken. I've played a game before where there were tier 0 decks and I can tell you that Tempo Warrior is not strong enough to be considered tier 0.
I probably don't understand, OP... you teched in a Harrison Jones and it didn't work because it was too slow, and so you teched in an acid swamp ooze, as well; and that didn't help because why?
I mostly talk about tempo , cw is very strong tier 1 for sure but yes there are some decks who counter him , tempo warrior is tier 0 as someone said above , i play since beta too and i havent seen something up to this level , even the old patron was weaker than this , every single card generates insane amount of value and tempo. Tempo dragon is up to this level aswell , pirate can get countered but guess what nzoth pirate mate is playable on other tempo decks and its as broken as ever
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I literally meet only warriors right now on the high legend , this class is out of control and everysingle archetype is broken , its not like the archetypes are smart , the raw power of warrior cards can make any deck effective and there is nothing who can challenge warriors , how much uglier it can get?
nzoth first mate
ravaging ghoul
3/3 dragon AND charge
fiery war axe
bloodhoof brave..
we see some incredible early game cards , the best in the game. The great thing with warriors is not that they have some awesome early game and then they lose , their late game is just as sick as their early game , every class has a weakness , warriors have none.
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If I had time I could write a post like this about any other class and still make it sound "right".
On topic: No, Warrior ain't the biggest issue with Hearthstone right now, and some of the cards you talk about rarely see play.
I'm actually really happy for warriors that want a style to play that isn't control or patron. First time in a while they have options.
That's even with me really hating playing against them.
probably just a player that using popular deck and got rekt by warrior. Move on guys. It's just another salty thread.
Frostmourne hungers...
Every single archetype meaning... Tempo Warrior ? That's it, the only deck you could consider Tier 1 right now, which still has a lot of bad matchups and costs nearly 10K dust. Meanwhile 1K dust
face, sorry, totem shaman (kek) and zoo vomiting minions @ legend, yet you complain about Warrior, Wow.Warrior has many different archetypes, true, more than any other class, buuuuuuttttt none of them are really Earth-shatteringly (yes shatteringly) good.
Warriors have weaknesses. They are reliant on crazy good weapons... that can be destroyed. Their 'big and expensive' removal, Brawl, is among the worst in the game because it doesn't clear the board but does trigger Deathrattles. Their hero power is very defensive and quite frankly crap most of the time, even in a fatigue race it matters surprisingly little.
Hunters, zoo and shamans are destroying the meta using under 2k dust decks and you are mad because warriors have an average result using a 10k+ dust deck? Ok...
this is literally the funniest post i have seen in quite some time. blizz loves warrior? hahaha yep thats why warrior has the most useless card ever created Tentacles for Arms and for exmple shaman has a 4 mana 7/7 or the best weapon in the game or the best 1 drop in the game. seems legit. warrior has allways been the top control class and blizz is doing everything in their power to enable agrro decks which is not in favour of the class. ofcourse they have to say the opposite but if u look at the meta and the cards some other classes have its no contest. if anything blizz promotes to play shaman, hunter, zoolock and to my surprise heal n'zoth paladin!?!? wtf blizz encouraging control play style?!? me shocked.
msg for ben brode: get the fuck out of hs
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Alexstrasza's Champion is from TGT. Fiery War Axe has been there, well, the whole time. A lot of people thought warrior would fade away without Death's Bite. It has returned in a big way to terrorize Shaman and Zoo - the success of the class is one of the bright spots in the meta right now.
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im half with the original post and half not.
For me warrior has been always the core loved class of hearthstone. Yes, sometimes theres a seasonal loved class ( now is Shaman) But warrior is always there. Warrior has always good cards, good synergy cards with his hero power, good weapons, good removals, and average good creatures. if you wacth thechampionchips stadistics his is normaly the most played class ( can be other class that is more played in a given champ but we all talking of global) And normaly always has a deck in t1 and in t2.
And yes, in EU server at least, the last week i have seen a lot of warriors. Have no global statisitcs but is the class i have played more agaisnt this month by far, even more than Shaman.
Said that. Deserves warrior a nerft? i would like it in personal thought but in more objetive think ill dont ask for a nerf yet. Is not owelhelming as was in the past ( patron golden reign) and you can tech now more easy than before aganish him.
there are easy decks to play and harder decks to play, i think it should be more rewarding if you manage to play a harder deck well...(harder doesn't necessarily mean more difficult, a deck like casino mage is highly reliant on rng therefor harder to pull off then a very consistent zoo deck)
i dont think the price of a deck has anything to do with how well it deserves to do.
in retrospective the warsong nerf makes a lot of sense.
I still love my big fat control warrior above anything else.
This is not a love song!
Midrange Shaman, Midrange Hunter, Ramp Druid, N'Zoth pala, Zoo, Miracle Rogue all counter CW.
-Ravaging Ghoul: it was necessary after death's bite rotated out.
-Alexstrasza's Champion: is barely played, so i won't bother about it. Also, no dragon = 2/3 for 3 useless minion.
-Fiery War Axe: it's warrior class, garrosh needs a cheap weapon. It's fine as it is.
-Bloodhoof Brave: learn to play around him. it's not that hard.
-Battle Rage: you need a to develop a full board, and get them damaged to profit on BR's efect. Only patron can effectively profit from it. Pirate warrior is pretty easy to counter.
I probably don't understand, OP... you teched in a Harrison Jones and it didn't work because it was too slow, and so you teched in an acid swamp ooze, as well; and that didn't help because why?
I mostly talk about tempo , cw is very strong tier 1 for sure but yes there are some decks who counter him , tempo warrior is tier 0 as someone said above , i play since beta too and i havent seen something up to this level , even the old patron was weaker than this , every single card generates insane amount of value and tempo. Tempo dragon is up to this level aswell , pirate can get countered but guess what nzoth pirate mate is playable on other tempo decks and its as broken as ever
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