Xzirez: Belcher Hunter (Top 10 Legend)
- Last updated Sep 9, 2014 (Naxx Launch)
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Wild
- 18 Minions
- 12 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 600
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 8/29/2014 (Naxx Launch)
- Xzirez
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Region:
EU
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Total Deck Rating
1986
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Test Log:
Here i will list changes that I'm testing that are doing good.
+ Wolf rider, - Haunted creeper, - one hunters mark, - one hound master.
Meta Slots IMPORTANT:
1 Drops: Wespinner can be changed for elven archer which i good in aggro metas. 2 timber wolfs for unleash power if needed.2 Webspinners if control meta, Warrior etc.
2 Drops: River crook for tempo, haunted creeper for board, Hyena for early snowball if meta allows for easy setups. Knife juggler for combo with creeper. Anything else is not recommended as a 2 drop.
3 Drops: Animal companion is staple, Harvest golem for sticky minion.
4 Drops: Houndmaster almost always, Senjin for taunt if aggro meta, Yeti for priest. anything else is not recommended.
5 Drops: Belcher for taunt if meta is aggro/midranged based. Azure drake if meta is combo based/late game. Tiger for control without spells. Loatheb for spell meta. kodo vs druid.
6 Drops: Higmane always in this deck. sylvanas can work. Argent commander can work.
7+ Drops: I don't know anything that could work here but something like alex might work.
Cutting hunters mark is for aggro/tempo metas were you can't afford to clog your hand early.
Other hunter builds run undertaker and bow but this is a completely different build than this one.
FAQ:
I don't like tracking why is this card so good?
i know a lot of people want to do this change to the deck and i think its a noobs way of looking at tracking tbh. Tracking lets you pick and choose between the cards you want for the different match ups. This is also why i have two of almost everything so if you discard one hyena for example you can always get it back since theres two of them. getting tracking when your one kill command of lethal has won me so many games. i don't know if the deck is even half as good without this card. if even if you don't like tracking now you will like it after a while.
Why no lerroy?
adding lerroy makes unleash to much of an essential card since you now have 4 cards that requires this combo to have full potential and will often make your hand clogged. If this was a tempo hunter it would be great being.
Mulligan:
always keep a good hyena combo. Webspinner is only a keep when going first.
Druid: Unleash, A good curve.
Rouge: Good curve, Hyena early. if he has coin dont play a 2 health minion turn 2 he can coin s7 and you lose. You need to push for damage early and never let him have minions on baord.
Shaman: Unleash and buzzard wins the game. A good curve. Hyena combo should not be kept as they have earth shock.
Warrior: Savannah higmane, A good curve early hyena might win the game. ALWAYS mulligan for buzzard in this matchup.
Priest: Animal Companion, Houndmaster, a 2 drop. Belcher should not be kept its more important getting the 4 attacks.
Warlock: Unleash the hounds always, Haunted creeper, Animal companion. Unleash the hounds and hyena is the most important in this matchup. Hyena can win you the game easily.
Gameplay:
Mirror:Savannah highmane on board first is a big pirority. Always remove their beasts so they can't use houndmaster for value. Flareing a trap gives you a much higher win rate.Belcher into Higmane is top priority. Always go face if you have a taunt or if you cant make a value trade. Dont have more then 2 minions on board if there not more then 2 health
Druid: Be aware of combo. Save hunters mark for the most value.
Priest: Hyena behind a taunt and you win. 4 attacks minions. Hyena on the board with other minions makes it innvunreable too board clear.
Warlock: Save unleash for combo try and remove everything. Belcher, hyena and unleash is top priorty.
Warrior: High drops, tracking turn 1 is rlly good here better then in any other matchup. Savanna higmane. Try and bait early removal so highmane can stay for 2 turns. dont trade if you have taunt dont fill your board with minions because of brawl. You need to hurry up and kill him before fatigue.
What your describing is a aggro hunter deck. This is a midrange deck and is even more controly then the midrange bow hunter. this deck has the potential to go long games but also finish a game turn four with two big hyenas. if you mean you actually want to make a midrange hunter without buzzard i would love to see this. in theory it could work but you would have to sub a lot of cards. For a aggro decks its easy to cut it but for control its hard. What you could do is make a similar list to the zoo hunter and make it look more like the death rattle priest. That might work and maybe i should try this in the future. and traps are great if the meta is aggro but after rank 5 the meta is always control with some aggro. At top tier legend everything is control, even the zoo lists are control and the people that play aggro tend to to not stay there for long since there deck is often inconsistent. This list is tired against the top tier legend players decks not low rank aggro decks.
Animal companion should be played turn 3 if possible if you do this before turn 6 he should be buffed or killed so cabal is not a problem. You need to mulligan singlel handedly for unleash or early drops vs zoo.
I'm more a fan of the "classic" hunter I guess. T6 Savannah followed by T7 Loatheb / Freezing Trap is almost always a GG.
If people have success with this version though, more power to them!
Great Hunter alternative! Thanks!
I like this deck because there are no secrets
Yeah the hunter secrets are kinda unfair in everything but the mirror were they suck and often loses you the game.
Honestly this deck is no longer favored at the start of this new season, it's much too slow vs face hunters, zoo, etc
This hunter reks both zoo and bow hunter?? i don't understand why people are having troubles i still win almost all my games with this deck even in this aggro zoo infested meta. I would really like to know what you people are struggling with i know some people in stream was losing to rank 20 with this deck. I guess your doing something wrong in the mulligan or not paying attention to your odds of drawing the different cards you need. if you follow my small guide it should be enough to cover the basics
Theres a reason zoo was getting pushed out of the meta over the last 2 weeks. its because of hunter. hunter is a almost a counter to zoo with the addition of haunted creeper it made it easier to deal with the early game. two timber wolfs also makes it a lot better. I have had people in the past how say there "PRO" hunter players at rank 2000 legend(....) saying these types of decks are bad against Zoo which i find to be weird. i guess all the people who think zoo is a bad matchup must be doing something wrong because this deck is even better against zoo because of belcher. Belcher stalls zoo for another turn or hides value minions like hyena so you can buff them next turn. I honestly don't have a clue how you people can even say its a bad matchup. I would really like it if someone could give me more info on why they feel like its bad matchup and maybe even a game vs Zoo so i can see what people are doing wrong. and it depends on the zoo list i know that some are better against hunter but i have never had any trouble against zoo myself.
You shouldn't be losing against zoo with hunter
Another UTH dependent deck. REALLY? What happens if we dont get UTH vs board swarming decks like shaman or Zoo or even some warrior face decks?
thats what tracking is for.
I don't know why but i have never been a fan of tracking in my hunter decks. I always feel like i get screwed with three essential cards to choose from. This being said I love the list, only change i made was -2 Tracking, +1 Loatheb, +1 Leeroy. Can you give me some insight on how tracking could be better than these two?
i know a lot of people want to do this change to the deck and i think its a noobs way of looking at tracking tbh. Tracking lets you pick and choose between the cards you want for the different match ups. This is also why i have two of almost everything so if you discard one hyena for example you can always get it back since theres two of them. getting tracking when your one kill command of lethal has won me so many games. i don't know if the deck is even half as good without this card. if you want to play loatheb swap one belcher. you should not play lerroy when your playing two hyenas imo but if you really want to then switch him for a flare instead. even if you don't like tracking now you will like it after a while. just wanted to answer this question because i get like 50 of it each day. gonna put it in the desc so people can see.
It's strong like any hunter at the moment. I really like the fact you get to name a deck after a card that the typical lists don't run.
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I just got to legend for the first time with this deck! Not only does it feel more consistent than mad scientist hunter, but it's more fun to play. The few changes that I made were to get rid of tracking (I'm just not a fan of it), add in another webspinner (I am a fan of getting "The Beast" on a semi regular basis!) and an extra owl. That and I added in Leroy instead of the Stonetusk boar. The extra finishing damage helps quite a bit!
Thanks again for such a great deck!
i think boar is a meta choice i wouldnt change it if facing many mirrors, its a third flare
Tracking and boar should not be changed. Tracking lets you cycle deck to get the cards you need to win different match ups which i basically hunters specialty. Boar has synergy with hyena and is great for clearing 1 health minions which is something hunter has a problem with early game. The changes you made makes the deck a lot different and a lot of the synergy that it has are gone just from removing those cards. Lerroy means your now even more dependent on unleash the hounds and the decks becomes more rushy and less control. Making these changes means more cards needs to be changed.
not really comfortable with 2 hyenas. what are your thoughts on having loatheb/leeroy on the second hyena slot?