[EU RANK 1] RenoLock with card choice commentary
- Last updated Jul 22, 2017 (Quest Rogue Nerf)
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Wild
- 22 Minions
- 8 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Renolock
- Crafting Cost: 9200
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 1/4/2017 (Gadgetzan)
- StanCifka
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Hello guys, I've recently hit rank 1 legend on EU with 30-6 record in the final run and I'd like to share some knowledge with anyone that would like to try this awesome deck!
In general, this version performs really well vs. all Patches decks (especially Shaman and Warrior, but it's fine against Rogue as well despite most Reno decks struggling vs. Rogue in general.
It's still super strong vs. both Reno and Dragon Priest and Control Warrior and you are also slightly favored in Reno Mage match-up. Your bad match-ups are going to be most Druids and mirror in case your opponent runs the Leeroy-Faceless-POW combo. Hunter and Paladin don't really exist on high ranks and you should do well against them simply because of currently lacking overall power level of these classes.
Cards I am not running which are commonly used:
Combo (POW, Leeroy, Faceless) - all these cards are next to dead when facing Patches decks, so by not having them you improve these match-ups a ton. Combo is a very good way to close out longer games, but Jaraxxus can do the same job and you only invest one card, so you got two more slots to use. Separate pieces are OK in some situations (e.g. dealing with big minions) but I feel they are just not doing enough. I definitely suggest including the combo if playing mirrors gives you headaches otherwise. :)
Ragnaros - I prefer running as few win conditions as possible in order to get decent early/midgame, it would make a great addition if there were a lot Mages, Locks and Druids in the meta.
Sylvanas - Another expensive minion that's decent vs. slower decks (Reno Lock and Druid), although it's super awkward against Rogue since they can Sap her and control Shamans are running Hex, so the meta is really Sylvanas-unfriendly at the moment.
Shadowflame- Almost auto-include according to many players, but with absence of Power Owerwhelming and also Sylvanas this card performs much worse. Without POW I believe Hellfire, Twisted Nether, Abyssal Enforcer and even Felfire Potion are better AOE choices.
Blastcrystal Potion - The problem with this card is that destroying a crystal really hurts you unless it's turn 8-10. Clearly the deck really needs a way of handling big minions, but I feel Corruption serves this purpose much better.
Felfire Potion - I've played this card a lot over Abyssal and the only match-up in which it seemed better was Rogue, where dealing with 4 toughness minions is a huge deal, while against everything else an extra 6/6 body is totally worth investing an additional mana.
Spellbreaker - If I had to add 31st card, this would be the choice, he is great vs. Rogue (Edwin is quite an issue) and in Mirror (Twilight Drake, Faceless Shambler), but he is underwhelming vs. aggro (it's way too easy to kill for a 4 mana card) and not great against Mage, Priest and Druid.
Cards I am running which might seem argueable:
Mountain Giant - best card in match-ups that you go turn 2+3 Life Tap instead of developing board early. It's generally uncastable vs. Patches decks, but same goes for the likes of Ragnaros, and Gaint is simply faster and more threatening when facing controls.
Faceless Shambler - In my opinion it's an auto-include if you run Mountain Giant. With it you can go double 8/8 on turn 7 against slower decks, which is incredibly hard to deal with.
Defender of Argus - Having access to more taunts is often game-defining vs. all aggro decks, especially Pirate Warrior. It's also important to have a couple taunts ready so you don't die after playing Jaraxxus, which leaves you unable to heal back to 30 with Reno.
Soulfire - Probably the worst card in current version, but it's still providing good tempo swings since there is a number of appealing targets in the meta (Azure Drake, Tomb Pillager, Frothing Berserker, Totem Golem, to list a few) and you can fill the curve with it really nicely.
Jaraxxus - Since I've cut the combo I was looking for a reliable win condition, a thing the Eredar Lord is insanely good at. You beat many decks senseless (Priest, control Warrior) with this card alone. It's also decent against Mage, since burning you down from 15 is not that easy for them (especially if you bait out a Fireball earlier during the game) and it's literally impossible for them to outgrind a two-mana 6/6 every turn.
Corruption - No it's not a joke. When thinking about the meta, I felt Reno Lock has 2 problems: it has really hard time removing cheap, overpowered minions (Trogg, Totem Golem, Small-Time Buccaneer etc.) and after the nerf of Big Game Hunter, it's really difficult to deal with big threats like Edwin, Giant, Ragnaros, Flame-Wreathed Faceless. Obviously if you use Corruption, these minions will connect to your face once, but if you imagine all the possible scenarios, the card fits in pretty nicely and my winrate significantly improved after including it in the deck. (Over 80% winrate during climb that early in the season is really rare for me)
That's all for today, happy Tapping to everyone who decides to try this brew out!
Guess Stan is going to be mentioned in HS Chronicles as Renolock himself
Hello guys, loving this deck. however any tips how to beat renomage? I usually try to make him use fireball during the game but then he still manages to beat me down from 15hp
hey, the best strategy against renomage is kazakus into armor/aoe, and then use it after you've played jaraxxus, they wont be able to burst u down most likely
Really solid deck all around and I like what you say about running combo because I feel the same way! I just get super sad playing this deck sometimes because reno mages cheese me out of wins so badly not even funny lol... you will see in this video against the second reno mage 2nd game LUL !
I know Faceless Shambler could have great value, but I've find Sen'jin Shieldmasta is much more stable :P Solid 4-drop regardless of the table
Hello guys! Today I tried deck from our best nation player StanCifka! Im kinda excited about it.. You should definitely check this guy out, he has awesome streams as well!
Lets talk about the video. I have met a jade druid which is considered as bad matchup and I did not win sadly. I would like you guys to ask what would you do differently or what would not you do at all. There were a lot of opinions and to be honest the reno decks are quite hard so I did not know exactly what to do... and I need some advice from you guys! Please help me with that :)
Thank you for watching! I tried to talk as much as possible so I would not bore you. So guys if you liked it, please consider upvoting / liking even subscribing to my channel! Im looking forward to your answers!
See you later
I am missing Lord Jaraxxus. What can i replace with?
you just can't. For long tempo games 30-40 min you need it as a constant 6/6 drop, it's the only way to finish and endless game, and also, it's just a (+++) good card. Don't play this deck without it
Would you consider Infested Tauren an "acceptable" replacement for Faceless Shambler? It's the one card I don't own in the list. Would you suggest something else instead? Personally I am a fan of Felguard in my Renolock, but the mana loss can really suck on curve. However, he does pretty well at slowing those Pirate decks down, plus the 3 attack can be huge, so I've kept him there for now.
yep shiledmaster best replace
I'm loving this deck. It is doing great against aggro and mid-range decks, such as warriors or shamans, and pretty decent against control decks. I even managed to win 3 games in a row against jade druids, giant + shambler really get the things done. I'm currently on 17-5 run and quite frankly I haven't got a bad match-up, the loses were mostly due to crappy rng. Thanks Stan for sharing, you've done a wonderful job on making this deck
My first game was vs. the mirror matchup. Only time I wish I had the combo XD
Good commentary regarding the specific card choices on this familiar deck.
So, without the Combo, why run Emperor?
From my personal experiance Emperor really does bring a lot of value if you manage to lower the cost of Jaraxxus from 9 to 8. Means you can play him and summon a 6/6 in the same turn, which really is a big deal especially against aggro decks
Yeah I remember using him in older handlocks to lower the cost of Jaraxxus too, but it always seemed like a big investment just to get a hero power off. I wonder if a blastcrystal or spellbreaker would be a good substitute instead of Emperor. I dunno, I'm intrigued and I'll certainly try the deck.
This is very nice adjustment for vs pirate or aggro deck
This is my game play vs aggro jade shaman, you can see how effective the adjustments for they :)
for my case -1mixture +1Shadowflame for vs midrange deck or like in this game play
overall very happy and agreed to your opinion, thanks for the idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxTONeMw5QY&feature=youtu.be
I've watched you on twitch while you climbed with this deck, learned a lot from you, your decisions and explanations. I'm keeping track of my progress, since I got bad RNG I lost more than I would have but still doing 16-7, with one 8-0 streak.
This deck is definitely suited to climb because it has all the tech for tempo and anti aggro material at the same time. It makes life tap more consistent and with a lot of possible rewards when you lack of resources (specially against aggro).
I mulligan for AoE, DoomSayer and reno on all aggros, all the matches I got at least one on time, or 2 good on curve I got the win.
For control or the rest I go for Drake and Mountain, trying to revive them if only for 1 mana on kazakus.
So really thank you very much for the streamings, guide and all pal!!!
What about Cabal Courier instead of MC tech or Soulfire?