Legend (EU) Anti-control rogue
- Last updated May 14, 2019 (Rise of Shadows)
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Wild
- 15 Minions
- 15 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Miracle Rogue
- Crafting Cost: 13120
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 5/14/2019 (Rise of Shadows)
- Rob_the_rogue
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Battle Tag:
Robertl1000
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Total Deck Rating
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The domination of ladder by the currently overpowered tempo rogue lists has lead to the rise of control warrior and bomb warrior. After my tempo rogue winrate dropped to below 60% I decided to switch to a more fun deck to go from rank 2 to legend. I would strongly recommend running a more meta tempo rogue list if below rank 5 where the meta is more undefined - this deck strongly relies on matching slower, control decks but I also had a lot of success playing it against bomb hunters, as well as paladin/priest/shaman/druid (on the odd occasion I matched them).
This deck took me from rank 2 to legend with a 66.7% winrate (18-9). This is the final version of the decklist and definitely the most fun. From the original list I tried inclusions such as waggle pick (removed because of the meta.... every deck has Harrison jones/acidic swamp ooze/weapons project) which meant the pirate package wasn't as high value allowing me to run Gral, the shark. Which although - certainly not overpowered, can be very strong in slower matchups thanks to deck dilution and pulling a potential alexstrasza/nomi/portal overfiend.
I enjoy the possibility of multiple win conditions with this deck, depending on the matchup and your hand you can go for board control + burst to try and get a quick win with leeroy + shadowsteps and evis. Nomi + shadowstep after a myras is an instant win in most matchups. Elysiana helps make the bomb warrior matchup impossible to lose, simply play it when there are enough bombs to be close to lethal then use a saved up togwaggles scheme on a big minion - alexstrasza will prevent defeat from further bombs. The inclusion of multiple ways to win from an empty deck (elysiana/nomi) allows for early myras without the risk of drawing badly which gives the deck huge high roll potential.
This archetype is certainly not optimised - very small sample size of games - but I had a lot of fun with the deck and have proved it's legend viable. Was placed around 3000th legend on EU. I intend to continue running and optimising this deck to see how it does in legend and whether its top 100 viable. If this post gains any popularity I would be willing to post a mulligan guide and am happy to answer any questions in terms of card choices/inclusions.
Due to the many parts and win conditions to this deck there are many possible card substitutions, feel free to ask for suggestions!
mulligan guide its possible?
Maybe... I’ve developed a new list that’s stronger and cheaper so if anything I’ll publish that list with a mulligan guide.
did you post that other list anywhere? Thanks.
Not yet. I’ll post it tomorrow, luckily the nerfs won’t have a huge impact on my stronger list.
It may now be even stronger then tempo rogue!
Any suggestions to change Gral, the Shark?
Thanks.
I imagine there a multiple replacements, depends on the meta at your rank. Most likely zilliax would work?
I’ve made a much better miracle rogue list featuring illidan since making this and consequently would not recommend crafting these cards.
I want to remove Myras and chef from the deck, but add Tak Nozwhisker, and Zil, is this an idea? And unseen saboteur
Optional. Without myras and nomi I would add zilliax + sprint.
Chef Nomi is optional or core?
Nearly all cards in the deck are optional due to the multiple win conditions. I wouldn’t bother running myras in this deck without nomi, zilliax + sprint would be worthy replacements.
Since making this deck I have climbed to top 1000 legend with another miracle rogue list using Illidan, which I think is stronger than this list and intend to upload soon :)
Hi. I really like to see new Rogue decks. I wanna try this but I don't have Nomi, Elysiana nor Alexstraza. Recommendations, please?
I’m currently working on another, much cheaper miracle rogue list.
without those 3 big minions it won’t be worth running gral or myras either, and would probably be better running a more aggressive list rather than value orientated. You could still try for value by replacing them with zilliax and something big you can use togwaggles scheme on. I’ve tried this out with other cards that don’t see play such as hogger or onyxia.
if you cut 4 cards (3 you lack + gral) you could go for the heistbaron togwaggle package and include him + 2 cable rats. The 4th addition could be zilliax or something fun/value orientated that you would like to shuffle. This new list without myras may requite a second sprint to help draw shuffled cards (no myras means deck dilution after shuffle unless it’s a very long game)
Thanks!
I have Onyxia, tho .Xd
Hahaha, that’s one of the reasons I’m really enjoying the RoS meta, the decline in power creep allows for lots of fun experimentation using cards that don’t usually see play, such as illidan, hogger and onyxia
Can you make a guide on how to play vs different decks with your deck here ?
If the deck gains enough popularity I’ll edit in a mulligan guide, advice on which win condition to aim for in different matchups and some example clips from games. I’m currently working on a cheaper, more old school miracle rogue list. I finished top 2000 legend with this deck when I switched. I went 30-17 with this deck in the end and intend to come back to it as I now have a better idea of how to optimise it.
Hi dude! Its cool that you trying to find new archetypes of rogues! I think this deck will be better later. are portal overfiend good? what can i use instead? deck works only on rank 2 against control warriors or on ranks 3-4 good too? thanks
I don't see why it wouldn't work at ranks 3-4 seeing as it was fine for me from 3 to legend (unless maybe there is a different, more rogue heavy meta on NA/Asia) I'm now 26-14 with it so its been working fine in legend. Personally I used tempo rogue at rank 5/4/most of 3 and the meta may have changed slightly?
I originally included portal overfiend because I thought it would be fun but it turned out to be surprisingly powerful, especially with Gral.
There are lots of possible substitutions, from zilliax to heistbaron togwaggle. I also like shiv or deadly poison as possible replacements if you're low on dust. I have not tried heistbaron togwaggle at all so zilliax is probably a safer replacement.
If you run zilliax and want to go for mech synergies I also like blightnozzle crawler instead of travelling healer as a possibility however this hasn't been tested yet. (by me at least). Spirit of the shark could also be an interesting idea but that would most likely have a knock on effect on changing other cards in the deck.
Best of luck with the deck, keep me posted :) It's strong in most matchups if you understand the deck so maybe practice in casual until you feel comfortable linking the opponents deck with the necessary win condition/mulligan.
Definitely looks like fun, I am missing the shark. What would you substitute it with?
And I am not sure about the healers, will switch out one for zilliax for sure. But it looks like fun and I will give it a spin :)
Zilliax would make an excellent substitution for Gral. If I matched more rogues I would do the same, Gral is very greedy and just loses to sap. I would run Zilliax if I had the dust thanks for feedback and good luck with the deck :)