Warsong Commander Nerf Incoming
Grim Patron isn't going to be the same. The patch will go live next week.
Quote from ZeriyahThe following balance change will be made in an upcoming patch:
Warsong Commander now reads: Your Charge minions have +1 Attack.
Over the course of the short but impactful history of Hearthstone, we’ve taken a strong stance that we’d like to make changes to cards only when they are completely necessary. The direction of gameplay and the metagame should be defined by our players, and as the meta is evolving, many different types of decks can emerge. Cards that were once impactful in the meta can be less so once new strategies emerge, and that change is brought on by the constant need and drive for innovation by our players.
Innovation is just one way a game can evolve, and the best way to shake up the meta and innovate in Hearthstone is by introducing new cards into the game. Introducing new cards to Hearthstone is our preferred method of changing the current state of the game. It’s exciting to discover a deck that may have an advantage over a popular deck out there, and new cards lead to the discovery of new combinations, and new conversations. Hearthstone thrives off of stories about enjoying a fast-paced, fun game with friends that’s full of delightful surprises.
Going forward, we will continue to stand by our stance that we will only make adjustments to cards when we feel it is completely necessary and allow the injection of new cards into the game help our players define what the meta evolves into. In the case of Warsong Commander, we felt this change was necessary to help expand both future design space and to stand by our overarching game philosophy that battles between minions and fighting for board control is what makes Hearthstone fun and compelling.
The patch that includes the Warsong Commander change is currently planned for next week. (Source)
Maybe this patch will fix Mac's collection manager crash, resolution resetting issue, and HiDPI issue as well! :D
Does anyone at Blizzarrd even play Hearthstone?
I wonder what deck Ropecoach will rope with now.
Face Hunter Kappa
When he heard about it, he was probabbly roping it was a lie...
...see what I did there?
Sorry.
But he was playing a Dragon Warrior the other day, maybe he tries to make that a viable deck?
In terms of legitimate game balance, this change is a step in the right direction. It's not perfect, but it brings the power level of this card into the realm of sanity that it was separate from for so long. Don't forget, Warsong Commander is a Basic Set minion, the vast majority of which don't see play in the meta.
So they didnt nerft the Patron deck, they literally killed it ... even if you would replace warsong with Charge spell, its not the same. Oh well, at least after patch when u meet a warrior, u will know 100% its a CW :F
Thanks, Blizzard. While Patreon-Warrior might have been quite tricky to play, the ability to end a game while the other player had the card-, life and board-advantage was just frustrating. I really don't see how this should have been resolved in the long run. Yes, they could have nerfed GP or FB, but every new card introduced would have to be checked against WC. Which would have lead to nerfing the GP sooner or later in any case.
Yes, it might have been too much of a nerf. Yes, Secret Paladin still sucks (and might then suck even more). But a nerf like this was overdue. So, again, thanks, Blizzard.
secret paradise its coming.....
Have felt for some time that a nerf of some kind was needed to this deck, but think this one might be a little excessive as it basically kills what was a fairly unique and interesting (if at times annoying) concept. I was more in favour of nerfing Frothing Berserker to like a 4/2... meaning it couldn't receive charge from Warsong Commander (giving the opponent a turn to respond and more in line with say Edwin Van Cleef or Molten Giants) and would die from too many AOE's meaning it couldn't be buffed to ridiculous levels without a health boost.
That said - as with all strong and popular decks (i.e. miracle rogue, buzzard hunter etc.) and cards (Tinkmaster, Leeroy and even the original Warsong Commander) Patron Warrior/Warsong Commander had its time in the sun but will now fade into obscurity to make way for a new slightly op, obnoxious, overused deck (most likely secret Paladin) to rule the meta.
I for one would like to welcome our new Paladin overlords....
Well done,
now go kill doctor6...
rip patron...
OOOOOHH HELL YEAH!! No more frothing berserker and patron BS!!
They should change the effect of Patron to:
"When survives damage, summon an exactly copy of this."
Then if it survives with only 1 health, the next patron would be summoned with only 1 health (and the buffs such Inner Rage and Cruel Taskmaster)
Anyone agrees?
AND NERF THE MISTERIOUS CHALLENGER!!
This would pose so many problems. Now, instead of using the worgen for OTK warrior, you'd just use Grims. I mean, you can double the damage of your combo with ANY whirlwind effect.
Inc Grim Patron + Charge +Inner Rage + Rampage + Inner Rage + Death's Bite whirlwind effect for guaranteed 62 damage ( You have 4 charging 12/4 and 2 charging 7/2 ), and if you can discount any of those cards - because yes, this combo only costs 10 before any discount - you can slip an Execute to go through taunts.
The combo would become even more broken with your "nerf" as it allows far more versatile splitting of your damage while the damage would still be higher than most current frothing OTK while requiring, for the most part, fewer cards.
And that's before someone actually comes with a more effective one, I litterally made this one up in under one minute.
You have only one charging minion, wtf?
" They should change the effect of Patron to:
"When survives damage, summon an exactly copy of this."
Then if it survives with only 1 health, the next patron would be summoned with only 1 health (and the buffs such Inner Rage and Cruel Taskmaster) "
I was answering this.
Just logged in to say suck it! This should have been done months ago as countless people have stated. I dont even play this garbage game anymore because of crap like this. Again, suck it, saw it coming, they should do more to balance this crap game out. L8R!
Because they wanted to get new players to buy the adventure. The sales on it are obviously at a low enough point where they don't mind nerfing it now.
Nerf the most hard deck in this moment , while we have mystirius challangers like cookies gg blizzard