A huge Edwin on turn 1 requires a very specific combination of at least 3 cards (Shadowstep, Foxy Fraud, and Edwin himself), which is quite improbable. Meanwhile more than half of the classes have a single card response for 2-mana or less that can deal with a huge Edwin: Consume Magic, Devolving Missiles, Shadow Word: Death, Sap (and I don't count Subdue as nobody really runs this card on any deck ever). So ok, once every 50-100 games a Rogue will be able to cheat a huge Edwin on t1 and most of these times they will insta-win the game, but some of them they will be left with an 1/1 on board and 0 cards in hand for t2. It feels bad to lose on t1, but it doesn't happen often enough to be considered a problem that needs addressing
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BravoTeam posted a message on Does Bladestorm has a limit?Posted in: General DiscussionMost spells like this have a hardcoded limit. It's there to prevent infinite loops with Deathspeaker, Commanding Shout and pre-nerf Dreadsteed, where a card could technically never end. It does seem really stupid to have a card like Yogg that can very often get to over 30 HP in the same Standard rotation as Bladestorm and not consider like... doing something more clever with those effects, like coding them to check if they're having some sort of effect, rather than just to not act the way the text says they do.
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YourPersonalGuru posted a message on priest matchmakingPosted in: PriestUsual “please provide proof” responses and all that sh*t like we are stupid and cannot notice that matchmaking is forced.
oh and it’s also documented in activision’s patent in case you need proof. Now give us your proof that matches are random pls
Nobody said that they were completely random mate. They are based on your winrates and rank. What there's no proof of is that it's based on your deck strategy. Look at my previous posts. 135 games with warrior. Only Demon hunter standing out, since it's the most popular class. Now I would assume rouge will take over. The class is strong, aggressive and did well doing the world championship. Yesterdays games seems to support that theory
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YourPersonalGuru posted a message on priest matchmakingPosted in: PriestOh jeez here we go again....
1st pic: Bomb Warrior
2nd pic: Fatigue Control warrior
Where are my bonus control match-ups mate?
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P4dge posted a message on priest matchmakingPosted in: PriestQuote from ZagniefMaster >>If you play control deck, you have bigger chance to face another control deck. That's how matchmaking works.
sure buddy, and your proof of that?
how about you aggregate 10 million games and show me some graphs, calculations.. you know an actual proof for that?
the only thing that matchmaker takes into account when looking for opponents are your MMR and rank, nothing else
if there was really some rigging happening, sites like hsreplay or vicious syndicate would have found that ages ago, coz they actually have info on millions of games that have happened over the last few years, just like how quickly we learned about pity timer existence and then Blizz had to go out and confirm it
people should really try to read more about Confirmation Bias and Dunning-Kruger effect
They won't though. We've never had so much easy access to information and yet we're seemingly worse informed than ever before.
Personally I blame a mixture of social media being the source of information for seemingly so many people and so you've got the blind leading the blind on all sorts of issues and it seems most education systems aren't relevant to the current world/society. It still leans so much on temporarily remembering information that's thrown at you, passing a test and forgetting a large amount of the information because its not relevant to daily life.
General life education, epistemology, critical thinking etc should replace absolute nonsense like religious studies which help keep the world ignorant.
Doesn't help that people want evidence that matches their agenda which is why people like the OP seem satisfied with a data sample of 6 games. No one remotely interested in actual evidence would consider that anywhere close to a reasonable amount of data.
But it suits their agenda so it's enough for them. You'd see people like this quickly change their standard of evidence if it was a disciplinary or court case against them.
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MoonUnit posted a message on What if Team 5 balances decks very well, but community can't find all of them?Posted in: General DiscussionI build a nice 100% untypical priest deck no one had on their radar. And it worked fine. Even DH struggled. But then the matchmaker learned and i got matched against cheating druids over and over, making my deck useless, so i had to revert back to my good old Priest everyone hates. They DONT want us to play creative decks.
‘Creative’ decks use cards that aren’t as powerful and thus are less common for someone to keep in their collection which means that if someone wanted to make them, they’d need dust to craft the cards for them, so I imagine Blizzard was happy you were playing a creative deck and in reality, the deck just wasn’t as good as your initial win rate had you believe.
so much this
Mr Mulluk, most likely was matched initially with someone of lower MMR like himself if he was goofing around with custom made decks(just an assumption, but highly probable one) and once the deck won a few games his MMR shot up a bit and he got matched with more meta deck which proved to be an actual killer for his deck
I find it kinda amazing how people defy the actual science behind the matchmaking and MMR and quickly just jump to conclusion of "I won first few games then my deck is good and game didn't like it so it matched me with counter decks to make me lose" :facepalm:
I'm not really sure who in their right mind would program their game to intentionally make players lose their games, the game is supposed to be fun and enjoyable, and people in general like winning, that's what keeps them coming back to the experience
Discussing with biased people like you is useless, so i wont go into much detail, but i get matched against all the meta decks on a regular basis. And i won against those meta decks with this new deck, like i won against them with my other selfmade decks. I dont play copy and paste decks. The only time i play one is to "learn" my enemy. Never for laddering. Thus sad, like the matchmaker kicks in if you won too often, it kicked in this time too. 9 wins out of 10. But this time, the matchmaker went havoc, since there is no real counterdeck to my own deck, so i got matched against those cheating druids over and over. Like i said, it has no use to discuss with people like you. In your small fanboi world meta is everything and selfmade decks are "inferior". But guess what, someone created meta decks too. Be happy in your manipulated world.
Its likely that the issue wasn't the decks you were facing but the caliber of player. If you win a bunch of games, your match maker rating will increase, and you will be pitted against players of a similar rating. The more successful you are, the better your opponents become. Bare in mind an idiot wielding a tier 1 deck is still an idiot. Decks can't beat you by themselves, and once you start facing better players, your win rate will naturally decrease because your opponents will make more correct decisions, leading to more defeats for you largely irrespective of the decks they are playing.
The matchmaker manipulation theory is 100% confirmation bias. You absolutely couldn't get away with that kind of algorithm going undetected when hundreds of thousands of people tune into Hearthstone streams daily watch people grind ladder for hours at a time. -
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onceupop posted a message on What if Team 5 balances decks very well, but community can't find all of them?Posted in: General DiscussionYeah, i am the kind of player who only play my own homebrew fun decks in Ranked, but i do realize i am severly handicapping myself, and when i loose, its because of the tempo disadvantage/power level of the deck. I usually stop at Rank 5 Diamond, since i know without win streaks, there are too many bad matchups to reach Legend. Something funny happened though in the November season, i went on a wave of extremly lucky matchups. Only met Rez priest, Raza Priest, Odd warrior and Big Druid in all my matches, and went on a insane win streak from D5 to D1. So the game is def not rigged.
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KillJack posted a message on What if Team 5 balances decks very well, but community can't find all of them?Posted in: General DiscussionI build a nice 100% untypical priest deck no one had on their radar. And it worked fine. Even DH struggled. But then the matchmaker learned and i got matched against cheating druids over and over, making my deck useless, so i had to revert back to my good old Priest everyone hates. They DONT want us to play creative decks.
‘Creative’ decks use cards that aren’t as powerful and thus are less common for someone to keep in their collection which means that if someone wanted to make them, they’d need dust to craft the cards for them, so I imagine Blizzard was happy you were playing a creative deck and in reality, the deck just wasn’t as good as your initial win rate had you believe.
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Taarverbrul posted a message on Imagine a hearthstone without so much aggroPosted in: General DiscussionI know who played HS since beta and stopped when control warrior was tier 1 because each game spent 20 minutes or more. IMO, a meta with many aggro decks is good for everybody, includind who like to play with control.
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Shadowrisen posted a message on Everything is rigged!Posted in: Players and Teams DiscussionQuote from Pr1ncipe4i20 >>Quote from yepapapepeap >>Quote from yepapapepeap >>because everyone who does not agree that the game has too much rng Just want the game to be chess, it is like the finer details for some people is just to complex to comprehend... make more jokes sure but you have no clue what you are talking about and it shows
And here I thought you will never, ever, ever again, read the wall of text.
clearly you got a stick up your ass, might wanna keep that to yourself
This kid with spider kid picture is a defensor of the Harvard Lawyer that write walls of text trying to be someone online? I forgot the name, but he has a Typical Trump Profile picture and always try to convince the crew that he finished university and play children's games while typing 300 lines without context and no explanation whatsoever why he always start the sentence with - "I'm Lawyer, bla bla bla, write stuff is nothing to me, I work, I have a salary and lots of free time to speak bullshit in a ******** website about cardgames ...and more sofisticate bla bla bla that is known as sophism most of time."
What an absolutely accurate and representative quote.
I didn't go to Harvard, but all the rest regarding credentials is correct. Thanks for thinking of me.
As to trying to convince anyone of anything, I could care less whether you believe it or not. That changes absolutely nothing about my life. I just enjoy folks who consider a page as a wall of text and yet will roll with it for 8 pages on a thread insisting that there's nothing to talk about.
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obviously it's for people to spend some of the gold and have less of it once ungoro actually hits
and if you were reading everything on this site carefully you'd know they already said they are going to do a heroic tavern brawl in wild format some time after next expansion
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http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/186880-fake-leaked-card-from-ungoro
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I remember Noxious making proper calculation and it always is 100 gold == 100 dust.
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He sleeps all night and he works all day...