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Quote from Cardstone >>

If Neptulon is a good card is up for debate,when was the last time you saw someone playing him?Again I dont understand why they picked shaman for this card there's already enough gimmicky shit that doesn't work in the class, couldn't they just make a good Discover card?.

I'm probably coming a bit salty in here but I'm a bit tired of Blizzard failing at shaman cards giving them a worst version of cards from another class and tired of the the people that defend them "if x happen and y happen etc,etc,etc".

It's been the same shit since BRM.Remember when Lava Shock and Fireguard were going to be broken, or Healing Wave kill aggro, or Totem Golem and The Mystcaller were OP, and everytime you tell someone they are not that great they call you a hater and that the card need to be tested (notable mention to the people that defended Charged Hammer you could see that card being a joke from a mile away).

I know a class has to be the worst, but when priest was Naxx came out and the class was saved, when noone played pally they did a good job and they save it with GVG, hell when combo druid was probably at his worst state (and I wasnt even bad) before TGT they got Living Roots and Darnassus Aspirant and the decks is top tier again.At worst those classes where the worst for what 6 months?It's been a year and they could't turn shaman into a mid-tier class.How hard is to make the same that they did with the other classes.

Edit:Man I wrote a lot.

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Quote from Ballinglikeafool >>

Um, the term "Dragon Consort" is derogatory toward those within the asexual community that identify as Dragon Aspects. Check your privilege. 

This is not comparable. The way retarted is used to describe Huntards strongly implies negative connotations in means to belittle the person playing a certain deck or class. Consequently, a person using that phrase implies that being retarted (in the classical sense of having an intellectual disability) in socially bad and undesired. Now this is not very fun to read if you suffer from an illness that could be described by that term. It's rather more comparable to the N-word that has ages ago has been frequently used in everyday language to belittle a person of a certain ethnicity.  Today, that word is socially unacceptable due to the negative connotations implied within it, which is a very good reason.

I personally do not think we should ban the word, but I hope that its use eventually waters down. To say that people are just being overly sensitive is a bit of a bad argument, unless you yourself do suffer from a mental illness and have inside knowledge of how it feels to be on the receiving end. I mean, you wouldn't have told a colored person they're being overly sensitive if you use the N-word in a negative way in their presence and they do take offense.

OP bring up an interesting subject but I think that this is not the right type of forum to discuss such a deep linguistic and social issue as most responses will be quick and defensive. I also had hoped he would have exteneded his argument and added some actual points.

That being said, I found an interesting social studies article about overuse this very phrase, which I suggest you read if you're interested :) http://www.academia.edu/477376/The_Uses_and_Implications_of_the_Term_Retarded_on_YouTube

Quote from Human_Guy >>

Huntard isn't even a term only used in HS. It comes from wow since apparently hunters are considered dumb even there (Dunno, don't actually play wow).

Fuck huntards and their cancerous ways!

Quote from Pmanda >>

A. What is the point of speculating "what ifs" if the card just came out?

B. Why are you trying to change a card that just came out and we still have no idea if it's good or not?

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Quote from ShamZone >>

Quote from ReDEyeDz >>

2 damage per overload crystal? Yeah... Nope. He's good already, no need to make him overpowered.

 "Should we give shaman good cards?", Blizzard asks team 5.

"Nah, no need. They have some decent cards. No need to make them t3"

 There is a big difference between good card and broken card. And broken cards are never good. Shamans are good already. They just need to fill the holes for certain situational cards. 

I'm amazed that I have to explain it to someone.

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Quote from agithore >>

I think it was run because Shaman had no early game drop. With Tunnel Trogg, I believe there's no need for Chow.

 chow is way better.....

 Uuuuhhhhh... Do you even Shaman, bro? Any Shaman player sees the value of Tunnel Trogg.

Quote from agithore >>

I think it was run because Shaman had no early game drop. With Tunnel Trogg, I believe there's no need for Chow.

Quote from agithore >>

Mech Shaman looks like fun deck and I was wondering why there isn't more of it at the moment. Considering Mech Mage is some-what playable, why is Mech Shaman not on the same level?

Quote from ReDEyeDz >>

2 damage per overload crystal? Yeah... Nope. He's good already, no need to make him overpowered.

Quote from ShamZone >>

Yeah, okay. The Trogg we got is good, the elemental could be good or a steaming pile, and Everyfin is Awesome is garbage unless the murloc deck that Blizzard is pushing on us is more viable than the current shaman decks. I can see how it could be good though, I guess. I just feel that if you could get value from that card, then you've already won the game since murloc decks aim to finish the game early. The card will be hit or miss.

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Quote from gonza2k3 >>

I play since Nov 2014 and this game is getting worse continuously. I think TGT was the worst expansion, since it just enlarged the difference between the already good classes (warrior, druid, paladin) with the far weakests ones (Priest, Shaman, Rogue).
Why? It added to some (and it is the break) existing decks the exactly extremely powerful cards they lacked, such as "Living Roots", "Darnassus Aspirant", "Bash", "Justicar Trueheart" (for paladin and even worse, warrior), "Murloc Knight"; and nothing to what were good decks such as Mech ones, Control Priest, Oil Rogue, even Handlock and Zoolock.
This, in addition to the new insane OP cards and the old ones that weren't removed (Mysterius Challenger, Dr. Boom, Mad Scientist, Tirion, Antonidas) , made the game just unplayable.
The result? A meta-game infested of Secret Paladin, Control Warrior and Combo Druid, the most frustrating OP decks to play against in the game's history. Think a second about that, new decks are infinitely worse than old decks. It would be a nice dream to play against Mech Mage, Tempo Mage, Zoolock, old classic Paladin, Mech Shaman, classic Priest, classic Rogue, and even Face Hunter or Patron Warrior!!
So, what's the worse part and why i am uninstalling? Because there is no feedback from Blizzard to player's claims, and the changes (in the case that exists) may take months.
It's really sad to think how HS became this, and that will be really hard to repair the damage done. I wish Blizzard react and can save this, and I (and a lot of other players for sure) can come back.

 The truth is that Blizzard is all about the money now!  They never expected anything out of this game, and they don't want to invest much into it.  They tried balancing some stuff in the past, and failed miserably, which is why they have quit trying altogether.  It's much cheaper to ignore it, than is it to pay people to test, fail, and then look like incompetent to boot.  In their eyes, that's wasted money and development time that could be used in developing new cards, which generates money, rather than cost it.

 Can you cite your sources please? Or are you actually omniscient?

Quote from gonza2k3 >>

I play since Nov 2014 and this game is getting worse continuously. I think TGT was the worst expansion, since it just enlarged the difference between the already good classes (warrior, druid, paladin) with the far weakests ones (Priest, Shaman, Rogue).
Why? It added to some (and it is the break) existing decks the exactly extremely powerful cards they lacked, such as "Living Roots", "Darnassus Aspirant", "Bash", "Justicar Trueheart" (for paladin and even worse, warrior), "Murloc Knight"; and nothing to what were good decks such as Mech ones, Control Priest, Oil Rogue, even Handlock and Zoolock.
This, in addition to the new insane OP cards and the old ones that weren't removed (Mysterius Challenger, Dr. Boom, Mad Scientist, Tirion, Antonidas) , made the game just unplayable.
The result? A meta-game infested of Secret Paladin, Control Warrior and Combo Druid, the most frustrating OP decks to play against in the game's history. Think a second about that, new decks are infinitely worse than old decks. It would be a nice dream to play against Mech Mage, Tempo Mage, Zoolock, old classic Paladin, Mech Shaman, classic Priest, classic Rogue, and even Face Hunter or Patron Warrior!!
So, what's the worse part and why i am uninstalling? Because there is no feedback from Blizzard to player's claims, and the changes (in the case that exists) may take months.
It's really sad to think how HS became this, and that will be really hard to repair the damage done. I wish Blizzard react and can save this, and I (and a lot of other players for sure) can come back.

Quote from Chimera >>

Yeah you can't really make a threat with this title and then list cards that any class can, and does use. I would have agreed with Murloc Knight but technically you can't really play that effectively earlier than turn 5 with coin unless it is safely guarded.

All that relies on a combo, in your opening hand...gl, and you're talking out 1 card.  It's far weaker than chow.