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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Gotta say, in Hearthstone (and other games) I find myself getting triggered when people make seemingly obviously bad decisions. In the casual meta, sure, but big rez priest isn't even that bad (and was otherwise built fine)... so why on Earth did they include Northshire Cleric to dilute the pool?!

    Different game, sure, but similar thing is happening in MTG Arena since Eldraine came out - so many players including those "needs 3 other forest/swamp/plains to do anything special" lands in 2+ color decks, as though those small effects outweigh the likelihood that they're just ending up with a slower basic land.

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Ugh, gonna be one of those days. In my usual low ranked casual meta, playing my own highlander hunter build (built it on day 1; can't imagine it's anything close to the competitive list). Come up against a lock that's playing somewhere between zoo and control Galakrond lock (essentially, the shared cards, plus 1 card from the control list and 3 from the zoo list).

    My god, I haven't seen such a perfect draw in a long time. Near perfect curving out (which is pretty rough when it's Galakrond lock, given the board presence the invoke gives), Invoking Galakrond 4 times and playing it on turn 7 - without even Life Tapping once

    I can't win every game, sure, but it's nice to feel like you have a chance. I can't imagine what draw I would've needed to keep up with that. XD

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Fuck Hearthstone sometimes. Seriously.

    Yes, it's a card game, and sometimes people are going to get god draws. This god draw was ridiculous.

    Druid opponent in wild, they were going second. Turn 1 Strength in Numbers, turn two Breath of Dreams. Turn 3 that faerie shield 5/4 dragon, turn 5 Druid of the Claw. Turn 6... coin, Innervate, Innervate, Ysera, Unleashed, Strength in Numbers pops giving them that 4/8 discover a dragon card.

    So I'm on the ropes here, given that my Dead Man's Hand deck has been drawing basically no good removal, and this opponent ends up getting a portal on their first draw after Ysera - which happens to be that 5/7 +spell damage shaman dragon. I topdeck a Brawl and use it - then my opponent topdecks a portal into regular Ysera. Still haven't drawn any good answers (my opponent's board keeps getting so large that Deathwing, Mad Aspect is pretty useless) - then my opponent drops a Tasty Flyfish just before killing me, as if to say "hey, I know my deck is crap, and I'm aware of how much I high rolled here".

    Again, I know this is a game with randomness and luck, but god dammit when one side high rolls that much and the other doesn't get anywhere close to that. Then again, I suppose if you're playing cards like Druid of the Claw and Tasty Flyfish you need all the help you can get.

    Edit: and then fucking secret mage at rank 20 in wild. Fucking cunts hey. Seriously. Let's see if this one has the balls to actually accept me, and explain why he's secret mage at rank 20 (if it's legit that's fine; if he's smurfing with a tier 1 deck he's a grade A cunt).

    Edit 2: and then I get fucking bamboozled by a mill rogue playing Sudden Betrayal, lol. What kind of mill rogue deck has room for such a bad card? Yet it lead me to not think it was mill rogue and not pump out cards ASAP. Was a bad matchup for me (in even worse luck, I actually drew well enough that it looked like I had a chance so the game went on way too long), but if there's one thing I hate more than a gimmick deck, it's a gimmick deck that bamboozles me due to a bad card choice. XD (It's not like this guy was budget - rest of the deck was on point - just that one card threw me off). And what's with all the antisocial people today? I get the rank 20 secret mage not wanting to talk if they were actually smurfing with a tier 1 deck, but I don't get why the druid or rogue would be quiet.

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    posted a message on General Galakrond's Awakening Heroic Deck

    While this deck did get me the W against Galakrond (final EVIL version), what ultimately got me there was Galakrond not invoking until about 9 or 10 mana. Seriously, how did Blizz think an encounter where the boss consistently gets 8/8s would be fair.

    I don't remember any of the old heroics being as unfun as some of these new ones. Some of them were fine; some of them just felt like you were rolling the restart button until you got a godhand, or the boss got trash.

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Annoying session in the casual low-rank meta for my daily quest:

    Game 1: face hunter. Woo, tier 2/former tier 1 deck at rank 20, what a champion.

    Game 2: silence priest - I appreciate the off-meta deck, but they were running it as a face deck. Which, IMO (and I'm pretty sure the opinion of most players) is incorrect - it's a tempo/board control deck similar to zoo, or a combo deck with Divine Spirit/Inner Fire. But hey, when you curve out perfectly and your opponent gets suboptimal answers, you can play anything as a face deck (I'm pretty sure this control priest deck I'm running has had some 'face' wins thanks to turn 1 Northshire, turn 2 Dead Ringer, turn 3 Madame Lazul, turn 4 Hench-Clan Shadequill.

    I get annoyed by people misplaying, and playing a deck in a wrong style is just awful - especially when the game draws them to the win (reminds of games vs zoo players that treat it like a face deck).

    Edit: and now a Galakrond priest going face at every opportunity in the mirror? What the fuck is going on with these fucking baddies? He somehow dodges playing a single 5+ attack minion while I have two Deaths in hand and gets stuff like Cabal Shadow Priest and an ungodly amount of the 5 mana taunt + deathrattle destroy, while I get crap like the 5/5 for 6 that resurrects if you target it with something.

    Edit 2: seems like low ranks are starting to become infested with smurfs that play tier decks. Another face hunter. Yugh. Not only is it tier 2 right now, but it's such an obnoxious deck. I agree that face decks in high levels of competition take a bit more thought than people give them for, but in regular play? It's so freaking easy. Use mana efficiently and hope you don't draw awfully. What made it worse was guy getting Huffer off Animal Companion for 4 extra damage. When it took every card he had to get exact lethal, 4 free damage thanks to a 1 in 3 (my answer was going to get rid of any companion) is even more frustrating. Technically speaking I can't confirm this one is a smurf given that I didn't talk to them, but there aren't too many legit ways they could be playing that deck at rank 20.

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2
    Quote from AntonydusWurm >>

    went for some "fun times" tonight after the super bowl. so i took a new account and laddered until rank 45

    guess what everyone played? the exact same decks you see everyday anyway. embiggen priest, face quest hunter, secret mages etc.

    it was the most atrocious ladder session in at least the last 2 years or so, hope for humankind was lost that night

    fucking legend ladder decks almost card for card at rank 45-ish, hatred for people is at a new high...

    Oh god, and I thought it was bad happening at ranks ~18-20. Happening at 45? Jesus Christ - don't you need to basically have a new account to even be in 45? So people are getting the game, and without even having played enough to have a good handle on it they're dropping enough cash to get tier decks?

    The hell is going on with Hearthstone these days?

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Has this season caused a lot of people to start smurfing with tier decks? It's the start of a season, and I don't know if something would cause a lot of players to return now - but Jesus Christ, I've never seen it this bad before.

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    posted a message on Peter Whalen Following Mike Donais And Leaving Hearthstone Team

    Well I can't speak for every other user, but it seems like a pretty obvious joke to me. Hearthstone 2 = Overwatch 2, Hearthstone Vanilla = Classic WoW.

    They're basically taking a jab at how most of Blizzard's 'new' games these days are rehashes of current franchises. Overwatch was the first new thing they had done in ages, and that was what, 4 years ago now?

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    posted a message on Warcraft 3 reforged. 0.5 score never forget.

    I've not played it, but from what I've seen and read it massively under-delivered on what was expected and promised, as well as trying to lockdown any potential custom maps that could prove successful in the EULA (given the success of Auto Chess and how popular DotA ended up being back in the day, when it started as a WC3 custom map).

    Under-delivering on the promises is especially an issue in these modern times of preorders. While you certainly have to accept that you take on risk when you place a preorder for a game that isn't even finished yet, the level at which they under-delivered here has a lot of those preorderers quite annoyed - especially when, if what I've read is correct, many of them are unable to get refunds (which, while technically fair, just highlights how money hungry Activision-Blizzard has become - half-assing the product and then not caring about the fan response and trying to make it better/right).

    The user score doesn't seem accurate - more the backlash resulting in a bombing of negative reviews - but the critic score is closer to the mark, if not a little high (from what I've seen, it doesn't do nearly enough to differentiate itself from the original to be worth more than about a 5).

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Just played against someone who may have had the biggest high roll I've seen in a while.

    Going second, coin, Galvanizer, three one drop mechs. Turn two, they topdeck Crystology and play their final discounted card (Micro Mummy), and they ultimately finish their game pretty much playing out every card they draw - including the second Crystology while 17 cards remained in their deck, and while having a deck that didn't just solely consist of cheap cards to make use of Galvaniser.

    If that's not bad enough, but for whatever reason they were playing SLOW. AS. FRACK. I don't think it was intentional roping given that it lead to misplays like not attacking with minions, but they must've been multitasking or something because there was no good reason for how long they took. I suppose when you draw that well you don't need to play properly.

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Not a great start to the season, as I screw around in low ranks with casual decks (Galakrond control priest).

    Game 1: highlander hunter. I suspected that they were at a slightly lower rank before the season changeover, which they confirmed, so that's all good, though still annoying to be playing a casual deck against a high tier one.

    Game 2: against a Pogo deck - from my experience that deck can high roll, and boy did he high roll. Despite some misplays, after about turn 5 he was getting at least one Pogo a turn, and eventually I ran out of answers (despite putting up a lot of fight). What's most annoying is that despite my deck running 20/30 1-4 cost cards, I drew *one* by turn 4; so all around it was just a "roll really badly" kind of game for me.

    Game 3: I actually won but feel like it should be included anyway - Galakrond rogue, though a low budget/casual version of it (at least judging from Blink Fox and Pickpocket), so that deck at low ranks wasn't annoying. What was annoying was my opponent Sapping a Shield of Galakrond - with the intent to prevent 4 damage, and/or force a single overdraw from me. That overdraw just so happened to be my own Galakrond. >.> Any other card would have been *easily* preferable to that. Given that my opponent had established his own Galakrond (at 1 invoke, mind you, so I guess desperation play?) I knew that long game I wouldn't have the value to win out despite my control cards, and with rogue having no great sweepers (and not really being able to afford the luxury of playing around sweepers anyway) I opted to just go as hard as fast as possible, and ended up getting the lethal before he could stabilize, so all's well that ends well I guess.

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    I literally just got smurfed by a freaking tempo rogue player. At rank 20. The literal only difference between his list and the Tempostorm one was the 1 mana pirate that battlecries into two more, instead of Pharaoh Cat - and that pirate isn't bad!

    Worst players in Hearthstone IMO. 

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People who smurf with competitive lists (tier lists) are one of the worst things about Hearthstone. I just don't see a good reason for it.

    * Farm gold? You can do that with a well built, more casual deck, and you don't come across as a jerk that wants to farm newbies with an 99% winrate. You can also get 3 wins pretty easily with a tier deck while laddering up.
    * Farm portrait wins? Same thing. I get that 1000 wins is a lot, but pretty much the same factors as the above apply here.
    * Some... other reason? Like just wanting an absurdly high winrate? Well, I mean, I can't say you're 'wrong' if you have an ant-crushing mentality, but it doesn't exactly show much when you beat a casual deck with a tier deck.

    I guess it's up to the individual whether they consider it a dick move or not - but I certainly do. Unless the pilot is trash there's no way a tier deck goes sub-15 without insta-conceding, so I wish Blizz would do something about players that have that sort of occurrence showing up (unnaturally pre-turn-2 concede rate).

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    posted a message on Hero ideas
    Quote from Pryst >>

    Passive: Minions cost 6 gold. Refreshing the tavern costs 0.  Start with 6 gold. 

    It's basically an inverse Milhouse.

     This one's interesting. Essentially, only get 1 minion a turn for the most part (2 if you sell a couple after buying the first and you're on 10), but get pretty much exactly what you want, time permitting. Essentially, it becomes "how does the game go if you can get exactly what you want but are largely gimped on minion quantity?".

    That said, early on at least, you'd very likely get a golden every 3 turns (or 2 goldens, especially early on, if you're hunting for tokens), so that might make it too good. Hell, on turn 3 you could have a 4/2, two 2/2s and two random tier 3 units, with likely having won turn 2 and possibly turn 1. Also, I don't think this could ever be implemented while Pogos are a thing. Turn 1, tavern up (unless they give you increased cost to compensate), then buy a Pogo every turn knowing you'll never miss one.

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2
    Quote from Hedwyn_nl >>

    It's fuckin unbelievable how 90% of my wild matches is against some kind of bullshit aggro cancer or combo.

    Your fuckin assholes, there're so many fucking nice cards to play in wild, so many fucking nice decks, and THE ONLY DECKS YOU PLAY ARE 

    SECRET MAGE, MECH PALADIN, SOME KIND OF BULLSHIT COMBO WARLOCK

    SECRET MAGE, MECH PALADIN

    SECRET MAGE, MECH PALADIN, SOME KIND OF BULLSHIT COMBO

    SECRET MAGE, MECH PALADIN

    SECRET MAGE, MECH PALADIN, SOME KIND OF BULLSHIT COMBO

    SECRET MAGE, MECH PALADIN

    A BIG FUCK YOU, FUCKING MAGGOT, YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THIS GAME.

    This one in particular... but if you're playing ranked, and those are good wild decks (I have no idea what the wild tier lists look like), then those players are playing good decks for ranking up. One man's "cancer deck" is another man's "doing whatever it takes to hit legend".

    Sorry, I know this is a salt thread and people just want to vent so perhaps I should stay quiet - but this is a sentiment I see around here a lot, when it's perfectly valid to play the most competitive decks in a competitive environment. Now, I get salty at these decks too - but personally, only when they're smurfing with them, in which case I feel they're going too far.

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