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Summary: Stop printing bs cards you can play with 0 risk or thought. 

That would lose them 80-90% of their playerbase. It's a zombieland out  there and you're a minority in it.

I think we're already past the point of no return with discover. Hearthstone community loves it so it's here to stay and discover cards will only get stronger. Classes like Priest, Mage and Rogue are already ruined. DK is next and others, in order to keep up with power level, will fall to it as well.

Pretty soon all matches will look like Priest mirror where every turn each player stares at three card choices until he starts to rope. Fun times.

Just treat Hearthstone like a drug and take it in small doses and all will be fine.

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Just curious. Are there real bots aka third party tools? Maybe bots people pay for? Or do they just script? Most bots feel like they are just using mediocre scripts.

I don't know where bots come from but they are pretty good. At least those that play zoolock in classic mode. They make favorable trades, correctly identify and deal with dangerous minions (Baron Geddon for example, they will get rid of him immediately), empty their hands before playing discard cards, keep burn in hand if they don't have lethal etc. Sometimes they mess up like buffing minion after it attacks or position wrongly Dire Wolf, but all in all it's quite impressive. 

IMHO, considering that Hearthstone is a F2P game and keeping in mind all issues that unavoidably come with it, Hearthstone is a very good game, one of the best in it's genre. Main problem is that we players look at the game only from our point of view and forget about other, more important POV and main reason why the game is out there - business & profit. 

I'm with the game since beta and I've seen a lot worse than we have now, so I can safely say that current state of the game is about as good as it gets. Things may improve slightly in the future or they can be even worse - both is equally possible, but all in all I think that Hearthstone team is doing pretty good job last few years.

How to make Hearthstone more enjoyable? Don't get overinvested in it. Take a break. Don't netdeck and grind. Making your own deck, testing and improving it is the most fun you can have. Try other game modes. Try other F2P card games.

If you're putting Renathal alongside 9 extra cards in your decks just for those 10hp extra, then you're doing it wrong ;)

I lost my weekly quest "Deal 1500 damage in Battlegrounds" after update. No different quest or XP compensation, simply quest gone and that's it. Small indie company...

I also didn't get legendary in my first YotP 10 packs. This must be a bug because all other pack types are guaranteed to have it, except golden classic packs. 

Judging by the cards revealed so far, with the new expansion priest might be (again) more board oriented class. I sure hope so, because I haven't played priest for a long time, back since old dragon priest was meta, and that was one of my favorite decks ever.

Let's just hope that developers will continue in this direction and that we will have priest as an honest class once again.

The saying "picture is worth a thousand words" perfectly describes this video. In a 15 minutes of entertaining gameplay it says everything there is to be told about the deck and (indirectly) about people playing it. Pure art! 

"Winter is here, AND IT'S COLD!"

1st game on 0-0 a mage that discovers endlessly with the legendary mage spell. Ends up hitting my face with generated fireballs and pyroblasts, nothing you can do.

There were a lot of people against discover in the past, but somehow people forget how bad this mechanic is for the game, also for other modes. And Blizzard massively brought back discover again. In the past top players averaged on over 8 wins, right now its barely 6 wins, that tells you everything.

Arena is an absolute garbage mode right now, i was never really a fan of it, but right now its worse than ever. And i feel mandatory to do it because i dont want to waste my free tickets you get in the reward track.

It is gross, played a mage that Rewound and played Counterspell and Objection 6-7 times each.  Broken as hell.

It makes both arena and constructed worse. 

If you play even shaman just take the loss against kb and win the other matchups with that bot deck

Random Random Random Random

This game mode is utter garbage, unreal.

I would love to see discover disappear completely as that would improve the game. But I'd be content with (1) more "discover a card that didn't start in your deck" and/or (2) a reasonable mana cost to discover.  A 2-drop with discover should be statted like a 1-drop. 

I don't think Discover itself is a problem, though there are perhaps too many strong Discover cards in the game. The mana cost or stat penalty associated with it could probably stand to be increased, or they could attach it to other keywords like Manathirst or Finale to make it more conditional.

Discover is also usually strongest at the start of a Standard Rotation since the pool is smaller, and gets worse as more cards release and consistency drops. DK also has a relatively small Discover pool and a lot of good Discover cards that let them fairly reliably target specific cards.

That said, it does kinda bug me how often the game now revolves around playing cards that you didn't actually put in your deck. That and how many decks revolve around cheating out big minions and spells.

Hearthstone has had many problems throughout it's lifespan and there will always be problems no doubt in that. I think we can all agree on one of the current problems and that is discover. Discovering needs to be possible  only on gimmick cards with specific drawbacks or limitations, card like suspicious alchemist, flowrider, tooth of nefarian are perfect examples of such cards. They also need to be limited in number and very rarely be in the neutural card pool, if ever. 

Now we have gotten to a point where you can generate stuff over and over and over even in aggro decks. This is a huge problem and makes deckbuilding pointless if you just can spew out new stuff over and over. It also makes legendaries obsolete since you can get several of them in the same game. 

We need a massive overhaul before it' too late. Significantly nerf cards make the strong swing turn cards gimmicky and counterable with tech cards. Add new tech cards to the game. Make theo 5 mana again. Make the game interactive. More tech cards more denial. Also remove aoe removals almost completely unless they also are gimmiky. Playing 1 card to remove 7 without any requiremenets except mana should not be possible if not extremely rarely. Brawl is an excellent card which has a potential big drawback, its fun and more interactive than just wiping the whole board with 0 risk. Fight over me is also excellent and requires thoughtfull play. 

Summary: Stop printing bs cards you can play with 0 risk or thought. Make strong cards counterable with a big gimmick instead of just insta playing it like a robot. Discover needs to be adressed first and utmost before it even spirals more out of control and becomes even a bigger problem. Inifnite card generation is not fun. Thanks

Hearthstone as a game needs to grow in order to continue to make profit and for this reason it needs to print new cards, there are some issues with this when it comes to completive play, especially when it comes to some card design choices which I will attempt to clarify below, this post has the goal of setting the ground rules for a format of hearthstone which I believe will be what old school hearthstone players like myself, who is often unsatisfied with the game seek from the game. The format will consist of a selection of cards where certain card design choices will be banned while others may not even if they consist of the same keyword.

Discover
In my opinion in order to have a good meta in hearthstone then you need a deck with a specific sets of cards, by this I mean only the cards which you selected to your deck should be able to be played in a given match. with this logic discover cards like Hematurge is a problem and cards like Tracking is not.

Mana Cheat
I don't find mana cheat problematic as a concept, but however i have issues with certain cards which I will call "surplus mana cheat" or SMC, SMC are cards which cheats more mana than its initial cost, ex Final Showdown which cost 1 mana and can great a surplus of 19 mana, given its full value, cards like these should be removed from this format, but other cards like Far Sight or even Harpoon Gun are fine, even though the latter has a surplus of 1 mana, but it is accepted due to the specific requirement and randomness factor. Other mana cheat cards like Horn of Winter and even Shadowstep are allowed.
In my opinion in order for SMC to be acceptable the SMC card must cost 5+ mana such as Runed Minthril Rod and good old Emperor Thaurissan

Multiple use Hero Power
I don't think multiple use hero power cards are a fun design, it gets monodies real quick and for this reason cards like Raza the Chained are banned but cards like Coldarra Drake is not, the reason is that Raza's effect is not interactive game design due to the lack of real counter play options

Endless value cards
Speaking of multiple use, cards like Jade Idol and Ignite are banned, because I believe value of a certain deck needs to be finite. cards like Archmage Antonidas is allowed due to demanding setup.

Rest of the game effects 
Cards such as Command the Elements which create an effect that can not be removed will also not be allowed in this format due to the lack of interactive nature, cards like [card] Aegwynn, the Guardian/card] is allowed due to being counter able with silence and removal effects

evolve
evolve is also banned because it is in my opinion an abstract version SMC cards

changing hero power turn 1
Cards that change hero power on turn 1 are also banned, like Baku the Mooneater

Ress mechanics 
might be banned because it is monodies to fight the same minions over and over again, but im not certain of this one

hand buff
might be banned due to being a soft mana cheat, but also not certain of this one

These are the changes I would make to fix hearthstone, I might have overlooked something. the format would be in wild so every card in the game that is not in violations of previous rules will be permitted and in order to keep the format somehow fresh I suggest the top 5 most winning cards when played will be temporarily banned each season in order to keep the meta somehow fresh, new expansion cards that follow the rules will obviously be added to the card pull.

thank you for reading and if you got suggestions or criticisms please feel free to post below, these are just my opinion for what I think would make hearthstone more enjoyable