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Definitely run one. Its a fantastic card in zoo, especially if you’re in a lot of mirror matches. A good blood knight drop against enemy zoo instantly wins the game. But even if you’re not facing a lot of mirror its still good, assuming you’re running 2x Argent Squire, 2x Scarlet Crusader, 2x Argent Commander. You’ll see very high value from him frequently, and even without use of battlecry the 3/3 for 3 is fine.

I didn’t know an existing archetype called “Value” existed. I’ll change it when i get a minute so as not to be misleading.

Hello all, just wanted to share the Rogue deck I’m climbing with right now. Ive gone from rank 19 to 8 with it so far. I call it Value Rogue because mana efficiency is through the roof on this thing, just about every card can trade up and do work. Playing it on ladder I said “Dat value” aloud to myself so many times that it naturally became the decks name. I net decked a tempo rogue a while back but have altered it to the point of it being a completely different deck with a completely different style. If anyones interested Ill gladly discuss that style as well as card choices, match ups, tech cards, and anything else.                                    

Colma, first of all, props to you my friend, this deck is really solid. I have some questions though.

How do you feel about swapping Arathi Weaponsmith? That is to say, how integral to the deck is it in your opinion? Im not a huge fan of the card in general and additionally feel like its sort of overkill on weapons if we’re running 2 arcanite reapers. Im tempted to swap it for a Chillwind Yeti, Sen’jin Shieldmasta or Defender of Argus and am about to do some testing but I wanted to hear what the deck’s creator has to say about that. Im not really sure and could be swayed if you explained why Arathi got the spot over something like a Yeti when you were building the deck.

I also felt compelled to swap an Argent Commander for The Black Knight because even though I dont face a TON of Ramp or Handlock here at Rank 9, I do face them from time to time and TBK is so essential to beat them with this deck in my opinion that Im comfortable making this swap, even though in other match ups theres no question you’d be better served by the Argent Commander. The standalone strength of the 4/5 body and the leg up on Ramps and Handlocks when you’re against them makes it worth it to me. 

For anyone facing a lot of miracle rogues at your place in the ladder, you really want to give this list a shot. It might be the hardest counter to them. Its solid in every other match up too, even its worst match ups are pretty much 50/50s. I want to commend you Spark on a freakin genius deck. The really clever and inventive synergies throughout make it a ton of fun and provides a lot of potential for creative and versatile plays. 

Question though, how do you feel about swapping a Loot Hoarder for Bloodmage Thalnos? Also wondering about a swap of Elven Archers in favor of Worgen Infiltrators? I feel like they can stick to the board with stealth and take out 3/2s in the early game nicely. I know Elven Archer can potentially be more relevant in late game than the Worgen combined with Hunters Mark every once in a while but i think its a good trade off, and its not like the Worgen couldn’t still help control the board past the first few turns. Plus I think it actually patches up the trading weakness you open up by swapping a Loot Hoarder for Thalnos , so it seems nice to me. But you are the expert and must have a reason to enlighten me with.

And again, great job man. I love this deck. I was beaten by it on my aggro warrior about a week ago and immediately sought it out because it was just so sick to me, and I got all the cards together day before yesterday and put a bunch of games in on casual mode to get the feel for all the mechanics and match ups, now Im taking it on the ladder as of tonight and am 3-0 thus far. Sorry for wall of text, thanks in advance if you take the time to read it.

Owls are a great idea, thank you Ill test it out

His was a little tiny bit different with some cards but you're absolutely right, this is without a doubt the deck in concept. Thanks so much.

Im invariably taking hand locks below 10 health while Im sitting above 25 and then losing to all their watcher/giant shenanigans around like turn 6 or 7, is there anything at all I can do about this ?

Hey guys I just faced a hunter with a pretty peculiar deck earlier today, it was like a control deck and Im not very familiar with hunter whatsoever so I thought maybe off of the cards I remember being in it you guys can steer me in the right direction of finding what it is if its a netdeck. He was running Bloodmage Thalnos, Baron Geddon, Ragnaros the Firelord, Sen'jin Shieldmastas, Freezing Traps, both hunter weapons, arcane shots and deadly shots and whatnot, etc. He beat my agro deck without really playing many minions in the early game, he just kept me off the board with weapons secrets and spells and brought me down slowly with hero power usage, so I didn't get to really see a core body of early game minions for you guys to go off of, though i suspect that core body of minions might not even exist considering the play style. Didn't see one beast which i found interesting. 

Thanks a lot for your reply. Your changes make quite a bit of sense and Im going to implement them. I feel as though I might revert the Frothings for Sen'jins after a couple runs though, because Ive found the Sen'jins to be so consistently useful in putting a wall up in the mid game that I've really valued having thus far. Frothings have the potential to be much more impactful obviously but they've fallen flat on their faces for me so many times that Ive been reluctant to use them. Im going to give them another chance however, after considering your logic on them being a "soft taunt" of sorts and it being a win of its own if they bait removal. All the other changes look great to me and I thank you for them.

EDIT: Ran Frothings in place of Sen'jins for a couple games and I still  really prefer the Sen'jins consistency and defensive capability, especially considering I'm currently facing a ton of agro and zoo.  Dont get me wrong, a Frothing lett unchecked has been my game winner a few times but they've ended up feeling mostly underwhelming. This isn't a very big sample size so Ill keep playing around with them however. I updated the deck if anyone else has any other ideas to further improve it.

Hey guys, this is a control deck Ive been working on for a little while now as I gain higher and higher budget cards. I'm looking for some advice on some changes I can make in the short term. I know and plan to expand the roster of legendaries, I just mean some low to mid budget card swaps and improvements to tighten up any immediate flaws that may seem glaring to you. Ive taken this as high as rank 10 thus far, currently sitting at rank 13. I thank you in advance should you take the time out to help me. I look forward to discussing and learning with you guys, Ive just joined the forums and think its gonna be really beneficial to me as a player.

EDIT: So far based on feedback, and through obtaining new cards, I have made these changes:

- 1 Gadgetzan Auctioneer, + 1 Azure Drake

- 1 Cleave, + 1 Brawl

- 1 Argent Commander, + 1 Cairne Bloodhoof

- 1 Spellbreaker, + 1 Armorsmith

and continue to seek feedback on this updated list: