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    posted a message on The Rock Paper Scissors Meta a Problem? (Standard)

    Honestly the game would probably have to go back into Beta for nerfing cards to have any real effect. The variance between powerful and poor cards is far greater now than a few years ago (excluding pack fillers), and there are many powerful cards. Fixing one issue will likely just lead to another.

    Maybe sideboards could help? But that's a topic for more experienced card players to discuss.

     

     

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    posted a message on Proof that Tickatus is balanced

    People choose to play aggro because aggro decks are fast, easy to play and powerful.

    Tick or no Tick, aggro would be abundant on ladder.

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    posted a message on Legend for first time! FeelsAmazingMan
    Quote from hellscreamtrue >>

    im not angry and that wasn't passive aggressive..

    but if I were and it was, this was the last place id look for help and you'd be the last person id ask

     Your interactions with people in this thread make you look jealous and spiteful. I’m not sure what you were trying to achieve?

    Well done to the OP anyway, getting legend with Control Warlock is very impressive.

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    posted a message on Control is so bad in Hs atm

    Tick is too slow to beat combo decks consistently if the player knows the match up. The main combo decks are Demon Hunter and Hunter and both have an above 70% win rate against Control Warlock at top 1000 Legend.

    Like PetiteMouche has said the rock paper scissors of old no longer exists. The amount of cheap/free card draw and generation means control can no longer win the value game.

     

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    posted a message on Lunacy experience remains the same
    Quote from Hooghout >>
    Quote from Kinkyjohnfowler >>
    Quote from Hooghout >>
    Quote from Kinkyjohnfowler >>

    Just answer his question for gods sake lol.

    it’s a very simple question, “How is the DoL experience the same?”, and any answer you give can be easily supported by data from sites such as HSReplay.

     Thinking within devs frame of mind the answer might seem straightforward for a flatlander. Taking a step back, the answer becomes relative to the crowd who aren't devs preferred players.

     I’m not the devs ‘preferred players’ by your definition. I exclusively play homebrew meme decks.

    Maybe you aren’t as good as you think you are at  this?

    Feel free to answer the original question though, use layman terms so a ‘flatlander’ like me can understand if you wish.

     What is good? 

     Your ability to assume the character of the person you are debating with is not as good as what you think.

    The offer to answer the original question, “how the DoL experience is the same?”, still stands.

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    posted a message on Lunacy experience remains the same
    Quote from HeilKise >>
    Quote from Kinkyjohnfowler >>

    Deck of Lunacy is in 4.1% of decks from Diamond 4-1. It’s in 3% of Legend decks.

    That’s since the balance patch, if we look over the last day then it drops to 3.4% Diamond 4-1 and 2.6% Legend.

    It’s pretty clear that this card has an extremely marginal effect on the viability of control decks.

     That tells me nothing when you can also know that Legend is not the same meta as the rest fo the ladder. Let me explain starting with Diamond: in diamond you will find...0 control decks (maybe warlock has still good presence) why? because to scale over the mages you need to play aggro or paladin. Case solve. Now Legend: A lot of people make the mistake of compare the rest of the game with Legend. Legend is a whole different world, most Legend decks dont work in the same way on the rest of the ladder. People always upload their 60% - 70% - whatever high winrate % list of rank 1 legend whenever they get good luck on Legend and when you test those decks you go into 45-50% winrate.

    Why ? BECAUSE LEGEND PLAYERS PLAY IN A DIFFERENT WAY. Decision making is different, Ladder mentality is more straighfoward, people play more defensive on Legends and more offensive in Gold-Plat-Diamond. More thinking is not always good specially if the goal is get more wins. More risk = more wins if you matches are shorter. So yeah on legend you can play almost everything and get possitive winrates that are kind of inconsistent with the rest of the game. I can spam face hunter all the way to Legend them change to spell priest and upload a list with 55% winrate in 10 matches or something like that against mage if i play enough on legend.

    That means something? no, because i am pretty that i will lose more than 5 matches if i play the same deck on Diamond. Same goes for Tempo decks. You see People playing Zoo this days on Gold, Plat or Diamond? nope, it dont make any sense cause tempo sucks against Mage and Paladin. So In the ladder Tempo and Slow decks are trash right now? yes, why? because they dont have any good matchup, Paladin is bad for them, mage is bad for them and some builds have problems dealing with hunter and demon hunter too. That is why Warrior, Shaman, Rogue and Priest have very low Play rate right now.

     

    Fast example: someone upload a control warrior deck in high legend with a good winrate. If you take that deck right now to the ladder and you play 50 matches tomorrow with a control warrior list your winrate will be possitive? probably if you are really good (and really lucky) with the deck but if other 10 players do the experiment i am pretty sure like really sure that more than 5 of them will get destroyed. Literally destroyed.

    I agree that control is in a bad place, I’ve said it many times on this forum. I disagree a lot of recent design choices from Blizzard.

    This thread is about DoL and how the experience of the card apparently remains the same. This is demonstrably false

    If you have issues with the game and want to express them it makes more sense to do so in the correct threads and within the right conversations.

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    posted a message on Lunacy experience remains the same

    Just answer his question for gods sake lol.

    it’s a very simple question, “How is the DoL experience the same?”, and any answer you give can be easily supported by data from sites such as HSReplay.

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    posted a message on Tickatus is good or bad for this game because...

    People need to understand that there are different types of players who enjoy the game in different ways. And catering to each of those is necessary. The overused but relevant Spike/Johnny/Timmy trio MTG famously use.

    The players who respond with “just play a new deck” are likely Spikes. The players who cannot understand the enjoyment in playing Face Hunter are likely Timmy/Johnny..

     

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    posted a message on Lunacy experience remains the same

    I’ve seen the card once since the nerf where as before I saw it every other game just about. I play meme decks at D5 so I’m not rushing face damage either. No Minion Mage is still a strong deck, just not because of DoL.

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    posted a message on Lunacy experience remains the same
    Quote from Pr1ncipe4i20 >>
    Quote from thebitterfig >>

    Kibler's suggestion of having Lunacy buff the spells by 1-4 mana instead of 3 would go a long way... things are too consistent at +3 with this small spell pool.  Adding to the chaos by swinging the mana cost more would be fitting, as well as a good nerf to effect.

    Meanwhile, the shell of spell mage is still very strong.  Most absurdly is Refreshing Spring Water (not even mentioned on the first page of this thread!).  A 0-mana Draw 2 shows that no one in Hearthstone balance has any clue.

     Kibler is toxic, know jack about the game, the only thing he was good was in Magic a gamer for losers living in mom's basement. So yeah, maybe he's the famous ManChild succesful playing TCG but about HS he's clueless and speak too much bullshit

     We’re all jealous of Brian Kibler, mate. It’s not just you, don’t worry.

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