Quick question, do you guys create/play with (so-called "cancerous") decks in order to help you counter them? For example, if Secret Paladin or Face Hunter or deck X (CW, Freeze Mage, Tempo Mage, whatnot, etc. etc.) are decks that you don't have a fair win rate against, do you end up trying to make one/netdecking and then piloting them in order to understand how such decks are played?
For me it actually helped vs. Secret Pally, Patron Warrior (pre-nerf), Face Hunter, etc.
I crafted 3 epics to play a secret paladin deck for 5 matches. I did the same thing with patron. Problem is there are endless variations of secret pally so you don't get any more out of playing it than playing against it I think.
Almost always. I'm constantly trying out new decks, it's one of the fun parts of the game. Looking for that special one that has a decent win rate and has a play style that matches your own is always a pleasure, and trying out the crazy ones is even more fun.
The most useful effect however is predicting what your opponents have in hand. If they don't play something I expect them to, then I know it's not there. There's so much you can read from a rogue by when they attack with their dagger or make sure to redagger, and you're best likely to pick those "tells" up if you're yourself quite familiar with the play style of their deck.
Yes, but I don't go overboard with it. I don't invest huge amounts of dust or anything, but if I got most of the cards lying around and / or there also are other purposes for crafting them, then sure.
The beauty is that you don't really need to be gain that much expertise, just some general fumbling about will give you a good idea of what to expect / counter. Obviously becoming good with such a deck will make the matchup even better however.
Yes, but I don't go overboard with it. I don't invest huge amounts of dust or anything, but if I got most of the cards lying around and / or there also are other purposes for crafting them, then sure.
The beauty is that you don't really need to be gain that much expertise, just some general fumbling about will give you a good idea of what to expect / counter. Obviously becoming good with such a deck will make the matchup even better however.
that is true, which is why it helped me counter secret paladin instead of being salty whenever I faced one, actually vs. secret pally is one of the games I enjoy atm
If I have the cards I will sometimes do it, I did it with face hunter and dragon priest, and since I play a handful of decks as it is I find I can play the matchup better. If you don't have the cards, you will probably get better value by just playing the crap out of one deck (your own) and learning the matchups by playing against them enough times, plus maybe looking at the decklists on here so there wont be many surprises.
Craft and create are two very different things, mby u should make the topic name and what ur asking unanimous with the poll ;-)
ahaha, thanks for the correction, I want to change the wording but then I don't know how to edit it...
Hmm, iv never created a poll, but iv tried it now and i didnt find how to edit or at least delete it either lol ... that seems like function that should be availible to the creator of the topic (u can change the name of the topic for example, but apparently no way to change a poll) :O
Craft and create are two very different things, mby u should make the topic name and what ur asking unanimous with the poll ;-)
ahaha, thanks for the correction, I want to change the wording but then I don't know how to edit it...
Hmm, iv never created a poll, but iv tried it now and i didnt find how to edit or at least delete it either lol ... that seems like function that should be availible to the creator of the topic (u can change the name of the topic for example, but apparently no way to change a poll) :O
If you created a poll then a bunch of people voted on it, changing the poll would be an issue. As the OP could make the poll say whatever they wanted and then change it....
Craft and create are two very different things, mby u should make the topic name and what ur asking unanimous with the poll ;-)
ahaha, thanks for the correction, I want to change the wording but then I don't know how to edit it...
Hmm, iv never created a poll, but iv tried it now and i didnt find how to edit or at least delete it either lol ... that seems like function that should be availible to the creator of the topic (u can change the name of the topic for example, but apparently no way to change a poll) :O
If you created a poll then a bunch of people voted on it, changing the poll would be an issue. As the OP could make the poll say whatever they wanted and then change it....
Craft and create are two very different things, mby u should make the topic name and what ur asking unanimous with the poll ;-)
ahaha, thanks for the correction, I want to change the wording but then I don't know how to edit it...
Hmm, iv never created a poll, but iv tried it now and i didnt find how to edit or at least delete it either lol ... that seems like function that should be availible to the creator of the topic (u can change the name of the topic for example, but apparently no way to change a poll) :O
If you created a poll then a bunch of people voted on it, changing the poll would be an issue. As the OP could make the poll say whatever they wanted and then change it....
Yes, thats true, i thought about it also, but at least the option to delete the poll and recreate it should be there, if u make a mistake or want to correct something. As it is now, u can only add new poll and never delete the old one, making it quite clunky and/or messy :/
Having access to all viable decks is an insane advantage, watching streamers or tournaments (while helpful) can not be compared to actually playing. The learning process will be A LOT faster, for obvious reasons.
People always say that all you need to do in order to succeed in Hearthstone is to pick a deck and play it well, but what they don't say is that in order to play that one deck well you usually need to understand how every other deck in the meta is played on top.
I think it gives a good exposure to your overall gameplay to play other and unfamiliar decks. For example, playing Oil Rogue helped me manage weapons better in CW, Playing Freeze Mage has helped me learn when to hold/play AOE in Handlock. The only way I can see this as being a "bad idea" is if you're a broke boy ahem - "honorable F2P player."
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I'll tell ya what I'm gonna give you, Snakes,
I'm gonna give you til the count of ten to get your ugly, yella, no good keister off my property before I pump your guts full of lead.
I think it's a great way to learn how to beat decks and if you have the dust to create the so-called "cancerous" decks then it's a great exercise. That being said, a lot of people on this thread have already mentioned that it's pretty expensive to do that if you're not really planning on playing the decks on ladder.
Sometimes in those instances I play a cheaper version of the deck just to get the overall feel for a few games. In the very least it helps me understand what the early game is like for them. In other instances I just like watching streams or youtube videos of those decks to see how they play, what kind of cards that are being kept in opening hands etc.
I think everyone would agree that the decks you feel most comfortable facing are decks that you've played before.
I find it hard, unless I've played a deck myself, to notice when an opponent *doesn't* play something. At times, knowing that can help you be more confident and aggressive in how you play.
Quick question, do you guys create/play with (so-called "cancerous") decks in order to help you counter them? For example, if Secret Paladin or Face Hunter or deck X (CW, Freeze Mage, Tempo Mage, whatnot, etc. etc.) are decks that you don't have a fair win rate against, do you end up trying to make one/netdecking and then piloting them in order to understand how such decks are played?
For me it actually helped vs. Secret Pally, Patron Warrior (pre-nerf), Face Hunter, etc.
Where is the "No, I don't have that much dust to just craft cards for studying purpose..." ?
There is no cancer deck in hearthstone ! You are the Cancer !
Not really.
I just check some guides to know how people tend to play those decks.
Craft and create are two very different things, mby u should make the topic name and what ur asking unanimous with the poll ;-)
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I crafted 3 epics to play a secret paladin deck for 5 matches. I did the same thing with patron. Problem is there are endless variations of secret pally so you don't get any more out of playing it than playing against it I think.
Almost always. I'm constantly trying out new decks, it's one of the fun parts of the game. Looking for that special one that has a decent win rate and has a play style that matches your own is always a pleasure, and trying out the crazy ones is even more fun.
The most useful effect however is predicting what your opponents have in hand. If they don't play something I expect them to, then I know it's not there. There's so much you can read from a rogue by when they attack with their dagger or make sure to redagger, and you're best likely to pick those "tells" up if you're yourself quite familiar with the play style of their deck.
Yes, but I don't go overboard with it. I don't invest huge amounts of dust or anything, but if I got most of the cards lying around and / or there also are other purposes for crafting them, then sure.
The beauty is that you don't really need to be gain that much expertise, just some general fumbling about will give you a good idea of what to expect / counter. Obviously becoming good with such a deck will make the matchup even better however.
If I have the cards I will sometimes do it, I did it with face hunter and dragon priest, and since I play a handful of decks as it is I find I can play the matchup better. If you don't have the cards, you will probably get better value by just playing the crap out of one deck (your own) and learning the matchups by playing against them enough times, plus maybe looking at the decklists on here so there wont be many surprises.
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Yes of course.
Having access to all viable decks is an insane advantage, watching streamers or tournaments (while helpful) can not be compared to actually playing. The learning process will be A LOT faster, for obvious reasons.
People always say that all you need to do in order to succeed in Hearthstone is to pick a deck and play it well, but what they don't say is that in order to play that one deck well you usually need to understand how every other deck in the meta is played on top.
I think it gives a good exposure to your overall gameplay to play other and unfamiliar decks. For example, playing Oil Rogue helped me manage weapons better in CW, Playing Freeze Mage has helped me learn when to hold/play AOE in Handlock. The only way I can see this as being a "bad idea" is if you're a broke boy ahem - "honorable F2P player."
I'll tell ya what I'm gonna give you, Snakes,
I'm gonna give you til the count of ten to get your ugly, yella, no good keister off my property before I pump your guts full of lead.
One, Two TEN!
I think it's a great way to learn how to beat decks and if you have the dust to create the so-called "cancerous" decks then it's a great exercise. That being said, a lot of people on this thread have already mentioned that it's pretty expensive to do that if you're not really planning on playing the decks on ladder.
Sometimes in those instances I play a cheaper version of the deck just to get the overall feel for a few games. In the very least it helps me understand what the early game is like for them. In other instances I just like watching streams or youtube videos of those decks to see how they play, what kind of cards that are being kept in opening hands etc.
I think everyone would agree that the decks you feel most comfortable facing are decks that you've played before.
I find it hard, unless I've played a deck myself, to notice when an opponent *doesn't* play something. At times, knowing that can help you be more confident and aggressive in how you play.
I'm surprised that "No, I don't have the cards" isn't a choice here.