He assumes a player play the game an hour a day on average, yet only completes 75% of the dailies. In reality, if you play an hour a day on average it would be closer to 100% of the daily. We can keep the 75% of the weekly quests, since this player might not play every game or be good enough to complete every game modes weekly quests. This player would in the old system get 55 gold an average from dailies and 10-20 gold every hour for playing, depending on fast or slow decks and winrate. So (55 + 15) * 120 = 8400 gold in the old system.
Another assumption is that the player gets 400 xp per hour, which is the max for in match hour. In reality it is closer to 300-350 xp per hour on average. The 1 hour a day player will not play ranked exclusively, so lets say he gets 300 xp per real hour
A third assumption is the xp from achievements. For the duels achievements he assumes that this player, which might be a standard player, will get 11 wins in duels, since 11 wins gives you 9500 xp. I would instead assume that a player that plays for 1 hour a day will probably get around 3 wins, which is 2700 xp.
For the darkmoon achievements his assumption is also wrong. Many of the achievments are tied to legendaries. This player we base the math upon has around 8400 * 0.75 = 6300 gold, since the expansion ends quite early. So this player would have around 3 darkmoon legendaries. Thus I'd estimate he earns half the darkmoon achievements. 12500 * 0.5 is 6250 xp.
Thus the complete math is:
Daily quests: 120 days * 100% * 900 xp = 108000 xp
Weekly quests: 17 weeks * 75% * (2500 + 1750 + 1750) xp = 76500 xp
Playtime: 120 days * 1 hour * 300 xp = 36000 xp
Duels achievments: 850 xp + 900 xp + 950 xp = 2700 xp
Darkmoon achievements: 50% * 12500 xp = 6250 xp
Total xp = 108000 + 76500 + 36000 + 2700 + 6250 = 229450 xp
The first 50 levels requires 196200 xp.
This player would get to level 58, which is as celestelon says. He would get 5400 gold + 16 packs, 2 arena/duel tickets, 2 legendaries and 1 epic card. This is way worse than the 8400 gold he usually gets.
Oh christ who the fuck cares? Stick to one thread for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of amateur mathematics club with children spending hours arguing about averages, making up their own numbers and having bitch fits over min/max xp in a flipping card game.
Play or don't play, it's up to you. If it doesn't work for you, do something else or at least keep all your petty and boring maths debates to one thread.
Oh christ who the fuck cares? Stick to one thread for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of amateur mathematics club with children spending hours arguing about averages, making up their own numbers and having bitch fits over min/max xp in a flipping card game.
Play or don't play, it's up to you. If it doesn't work for you, do something else or at least keep all your petty and boring maths debates to one thread.
Oh christ who the fuck cares about these complains posts about the fight? Stick to playing the game for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of complaing club with children complaining about the real people who stand up and fight for whats right.
Complain or dont complain, its up to you. If this place isn't for you, do something else, or atleast keep all your petty complaining to one thread.
Oh christ who the fuck cares? Stick to one thread for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of amateur mathematics club with children spending hours arguing about averages, making up their own numbers and having bitch fits over min/max xp in a flipping card game.
Play or don't play, it's up to you. If it doesn't work for you, do something else or at least keep all your petty and boring maths debates to one thread.
Who te fuck cares? thousands of player, f2p and whales alike, complaining in reddit , twitter and every f*cking sociam media you cretin. You are pretty much another Blizzard's slut trying to defend the pickpocketing and the life-draining, its a shame theres people like you who cant understand what happening rn.
If u can do better maths showing that the community is wrong, ur welcome. If dont, then stfu.
Oh christ who the fuck cares? Stick to one thread for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of amateur mathematics club with children spending hours arguing about averages, making up their own numbers and having bitch fits over min/max xp in a flipping card game.
Play or don't play, it's up to you. If it doesn't work for you, do something else or at least keep all your petty and boring maths debates to one thread.
I am also getting more and more disturbed by this whole rework bamboozle. Lets give em these weeks to see how it actually implements into our life, maybe it is better, maybe not - then we demand changes.
I am also getting more and more disturbed by this whole rework bamboozle. Lets give em these weeks to see how it actually implements into our life, maybe it is better, maybe not - then we demand changes.
Why give them weeks when we can clearly calculate that the system is worse?
Oh christ who the fuck cares? Stick to one thread for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of amateur mathematics club with children spending hours arguing about averages, making up their own numbers and having bitch fits over min/max xp in a flipping card game.
Play or don't play, it's up to you. If it doesn't work for you, do something else or at least keep all your petty and boring maths debates to one thread.
First off if you dont care, then don't read the post, dont bash others for speaking out, we can discuss this as much as we want, and I hope to see many more of tthese posts all over the place!! Because this system needs discussing, it needs outrage! It needs changing! Activision has shown us they clearly they don't care about their player base and just want more and more money, they are greedy and getting even more greedy!
Now earning gold doesn't include winning, we only climbing the ladder for the rewards at the end of the month. Other than that you just play games for hours and gain 400XP per hour they say. I tested this also and indeed this isn't correct, 300-350xp looks indeed more like it!
So if we do the math it means 13 hours per day EVERY DAY! just to reach the max 150 level! Wauw that is insane! And totally NOT what they promissed us. I play a decent amount of hearthstone, and I could easy farm 15k gold per expansion by doing 3-6 hours a day. And I wouldnt even play every day. Hearthstone has basicly devalued our playtime value with almost 50%
So you got to spend more hours, and you will get less gold, and you need to buy more cards with the minipacks! We get less legendaries in our packs, and they added more legendaries in an expansion then ever!
Add all this up and you can see it hasnt doubled but trippled the price to play Hearthstone!
I will not buy any preorders anymore, from now on its free to play! because they clearly dont deserve our money. Thats the only clear statement you can make against this greed!!
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" In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded."
I will not buy any preorders anymore, from now on its free to play! because they clearly dont deserve our money. Thats the only clear statement you can make against this greed!!
I second that - too much money for nothing new really and chronic repetitive game play. And on top of that, they want more by messing up rewards, introducing mini expansions etc etc
all this threads make clear and clear why blizzard did not show the entire new system way earlier, funny cause, before blizzard said that the new system would get us a bit more gold than usual, one of the developers said in another interview that his normal gold income beetween expansions were 5000-5500 gold and he spected players not to gain less than that, ill search if i can find the source, that alarmed me when i read it and turns out it was the reality
His math: link
He assumes a player play the game an hour a day on average, yet only completes 75% of the dailies. In reality, if you play an hour a day on average it would be closer to 100% of the daily. We can keep the 75% of the weekly quests, since this player might not play every game or be good enough to complete every game modes weekly quests. This player would in the old system get 55 gold an average from dailies and 10-20 gold every hour for playing, depending on fast or slow decks and winrate. So (55 + 15) * 120 = 8400 gold in the old system.
Another assumption is that the player gets 400 xp per hour, which is the max for in match hour. In reality it is closer to 300-350 xp per hour on average. The 1 hour a day player will not play ranked exclusively, so lets say he gets 300 xp per real hour
A third assumption is the xp from achievements. For the duels achievements he assumes that this player, which might be a standard player, will get 11 wins in duels, since 11 wins gives you 9500 xp. I would instead assume that a player that plays for 1 hour a day will probably get around 3 wins, which is 2700 xp.
For the darkmoon achievements his assumption is also wrong. Many of the achievments are tied to legendaries. This player we base the math upon has around 8400 * 0.75 = 6300 gold, since the expansion ends quite early. So this player would have around 3 darkmoon legendaries. Thus I'd estimate he earns half the darkmoon achievements. 12500 * 0.5 is 6250 xp.
Thus the complete math is:
Daily quests: 120 days * 100% * 900 xp = 108000 xp
Weekly quests: 17 weeks * 75% * (2500 + 1750 + 1750) xp = 76500 xp
Playtime: 120 days * 1 hour * 300 xp = 36000 xp
Duels achievments: 850 xp + 900 xp + 950 xp = 2700 xp
Darkmoon achievements: 50% * 12500 xp = 6250 xp
Total xp = 108000 + 76500 + 36000 + 2700 + 6250 = 229450 xp
The first 50 levels requires 196200 xp.
This player would get to level 58, which is as celestelon says. He would get 5400 gold + 16 packs, 2 arena/duel tickets, 2 legendaries and 1 epic card. This is way worse than the 8400 gold he usually gets.
Oh christ who the fuck cares? Stick to one thread for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of amateur mathematics club with children spending hours arguing about averages, making up their own numbers and having bitch fits over min/max xp in a flipping card game.
Play or don't play, it's up to you. If it doesn't work for you, do something else or at least keep all your petty and boring maths debates to one thread.
Oh christ who the fuck cares about these complains posts about the fight? Stick to playing the game for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of complaing club with children complaining about the real people who stand up and fight for whats right.
Complain or dont complain, its up to you. If this place isn't for you, do something else, or atleast keep all your petty complaining to one thread.
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Who te fuck cares? thousands of player, f2p and whales alike, complaining in reddit , twitter and every f*cking sociam media you cretin. You are pretty much another Blizzard's slut trying to defend the pickpocketing and the life-draining, its a shame theres people like you who cant understand what happening rn.
If u can do better maths showing that the community is wrong, ur welcome. If dont, then stfu.
The dude who failed Math class.
I am also getting more and more disturbed by this whole rework bamboozle. Lets give em these weeks to see how it actually implements into our life, maybe it is better, maybe not - then we demand changes.
Why give them weeks when we can clearly calculate that the system is worse?
First off if you dont care, then don't read the post, dont bash others for speaking out, we can discuss this as much as we want, and I hope to see many more of tthese posts all over the place!! Because this system needs discussing, it needs outrage! It needs changing! Activision has shown us they clearly they don't care about their player base and just want more and more money, they are greedy and getting even more greedy!
Now earning gold doesn't include winning, we only climbing the ladder for the rewards at the end of the month. Other than that you just play games for hours and gain 400XP per hour they say. I tested this also and indeed this isn't correct, 300-350xp looks indeed more like it!
So if we do the math it means 13 hours per day EVERY DAY! just to reach the max 150 level! Wauw that is insane! And totally NOT what they promissed us. I play a decent amount of hearthstone, and I could easy farm 15k gold per expansion by doing 3-6 hours a day.
And I wouldnt even play every day. Hearthstone has basicly devalued our playtime value with almost 50%
So you got to spend more hours, and you will get less gold, and you need to buy more cards with the minipacks!
We get less legendaries in our packs, and they added more legendaries in an expansion then ever!
Add all this up and you can see it hasnt doubled but trippled the price to play Hearthstone!
I will not buy any preorders anymore, from now on its free to play! because they clearly dont deserve our money.
Thats the only clear statement you can make against this greed!!
" In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded."
I second that - too much money for nothing new really and chronic repetitive game play. And on top of that, they want more by messing up rewards, introducing mini expansions etc etc
all this threads make clear and clear why blizzard did not show the entire new system way earlier, funny cause, before blizzard said that the new system would get us a bit more gold than usual, one of the developers said in another interview that his normal gold income beetween expansions were 5000-5500 gold and he spected players not to gain less than that, ill search if i can find the source, that alarmed me when i read it and turns out it was the reality
HERE
https://outof.cards/hearthstone/1727-blizzard-responds-to-the-hearthstone-battle-pass-survey-current-reward-values-to-be-preserved-play-hearthstone-your-way-to-progress
And yet he WILL earn less.