Hearthpwn

If you play mill rogue we cant be friends. Im sorry but thats the least hype deck in the history of the game and u decide to spend you time waisting it for others? Nooope fuck u and ur cold oracle

 Not sure if this belongs and for those of you bothering to read the full rant and share some thoughts thanks a fuck ton before hand! 

I'm annoyed/disappointed so here goes:

There was a post about "good job blizz for a balanced meta" based on the fact that there are a few different classes and 6-7 decks hitting the same range of win% differing about 3-5% or something along those lines. And I admit that is great.
How ever I have to question the level of difference and complexity in between those decks. Sure they offer a few different win conditions but almost all of them rely on strong curve and win more conditions and/or pushing ton of face dmg after gaining tempo in the early game.

Let's take the obvious examples:

Token Druid:  

Flood board, buff board, go face -> win

Mech paladin:

Play minions, protect them, buff them -> win

Tempo rogue: 

Play minions protect them while hitting face, hit face harder -> win

Bomb warrior:

Play mechs, protect them hit face, enemy draws bombs -> win

And then on the opposing side:

Control Warrior:

Remove everything, bore the living shit out of everyone, if need be play 3 grand archivist while feeling so good about your opponents feeble attempts to scratch that full plate armor of yours -> win 

(and while being the most frustrating game to loose this still somehow manages to be the most amazing one to play against ONLY for the reason of Elysiana offering so many different VARIATIONS of game ending)

Summon mage:  Survive 5-6 turns -> I'M GONNA BUILD A WALL -> win

Sure there are different mechanics involved in all of these, but after trying most of the archetypes + the mana cheat or huge paladin, burgle rogue, and control warrior. Games end up just being who wins the first 3-5 turns and then it's over. 

Now I've been playing HS since GVG, done my share of Legend finishes and while most active I went no season without reaching rank 5 or better and a good lot of 12 win arena runs.

After a break of about 4 months of consistent playing (some casual arena running here and there)  I find the current state of Hearthstone too simple and strict.  It's just mindless face rolling with so few decisions to be made.

I made an fairly easy push for rank 5 with mech paladin with the feeling of clutch games almost non existent. I don't play ladder now days too much at all, yet it took me no time  to hit rank 5  since it's just this: Pick a strong deck, play curve, get a bit lucky and you are golden.  Legend plan repeat this grinding a tad longer. That's no game, that's work with this type of meta. 

Not just that though. I used to love arena. The deck building process is one of the best things in the game. However coming into RoS even arena is just the same as ranked. Tempo tempo tempo. I've been building tons of decks and what I find is that the drafting is toned towards more and more early game cards. In the past week I've gone multiple decks lacking a single 7 or higher mana cost card, in classes like priest mage and warlock and facing the situation where you realize you just must draft for the early game, because the comeback tools are just not there.

Now by this point it must be obvious I like value heavy games better, so I want to say I don't mind a tempo game here and there and I think tempo and aggro decks are absolutely a key part to the game of Hearthstone to keep it all balanced. BUT if the game is literally pushed to a point where all the game modes are the same and it's next to impossible to build/ draft a deck that is competitive while offering a multitude of options and game variations what the fuck are we playing for? Let's just hit the tables and play rock paper scissors while drinking beer or something. 

 I had a good bit of fun mainly because of some exceptional highlight games playing Huge paladin against decks like CTRL warrior, hand mage and token druid, but after a fashion so many of the games just turn into the same RPS bullshit. And the fun and good games are just a needle in the haystack.

Is this what HS has turned into? Maybe it is too much to ask complexity in a game evolving like this?

#help

"Oh nice, a streamer just released top eight decks of the expansion, one of those is definitely paladin given how low the odds are. *checks lists*. Wtf? wheres the fucking paladin decks? Duel garbage decks are fucking trash, dragon decks are a meme and are way too slow. secret isnt as fast as murloc shaman."

HELLO!??! BLIZZARD WHERE ARE THE GOOD FUCIGN APALDING DECKS EVRY FUFCING EXPANSION YOU LISTEN TO RIPTARDS AND WHEN I COME BACK TO HEARTHSTONE AFTER HATING ODD PALLY EQUALITY IS 4 FUCKING MANA?!!?!? HOW THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN, UNNERF IT UNNFER IT UNNERF IT IS THIS A JOKE. WHY ISNT EQUALITY CONSECRATE WORKING AT 6 MANA? WTF WAIT WAIT WAIT. IM SUPPOSED TO BOARD CLEAR AT 8 FUCKING MANA LMFAO LMFAO LFMAO FLAM OFUCK FCKFYCUJKFYCUJFCUYJ FUCK YOU BLIZZARD ARE YOU FUCKING MORONS. I CANT BOARD CLEAR FOR FUCKING SHIT GIVE US GOOD BOARD CLEARS OR SUCK AFIOWFH WIEFHAIOWFIOAWEHFOIAHWEIOFHAWIOFHIOEF

Okay can someone explain how matchmaking works? This is not a conspiracy theory, but something im actually serious about. I can play 5 games in a row against fking token druid so I try to counter them with another deck only to play against fking control shammy and warrior. Wtf blizz? Does this ever happen to anyone else or am i just insaly unlucky? Dropped 3 ranks tonight because of this horseshit of a company cant make a fair matchmaking system

holy shit can tempo rogue go jump off a fucking bridge.  

people are talking about token but token at least has bad matchups from more than one class.  Look at tempo rogue on hsreplay matchups.  its green against EVERY archetype for every class other than warrior and even those aren't that bad.  that is fucking bullshit.  and when they lose it's usually because they just don't draw raping party.  

Fuck the pick

Fuck double Ysera on turn 6

Fuck raiding party

 i can't even counter queue this bullshit.

Oh nvm, ignore my previous post mech paladin is pretty good team

what does it take to win?  must i play better than perfectly?  must i play decks that make me want to  literally commit murder?  i feel like i am being forced to do something i iwll regret.

i have given up.  i am playing a deck I 100% do not want to play, at all costs.  i have no choice, my happiness is out of my hands now.

I am going to take a break from this game.  It feels like none of my choices matter when I play a match anymore.  I feel more frustrated when I lose and hollow when I win because of all the discover/generated card high rolls.  The game feels the same as last season.  With there being no new game modes coming and my lack of faith in the dev team, I don't see this game improving.  Just needed to vent and I figured this is the best thread for that.

"Oh great another expansion, with a huge rotation, the game will be good again, time to test my control decks and meme decks have fun."

WRONG, WRONG.

ZOO, TOKEN, MURLOC, SECRET, ZOO, TOKEN, MURLOC, SECRET.

FUCKING BITCHES, FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT MAGGOTS, THERE'S OTHER TYPE OF DECKS IN THE FUCKING GAME FUCKING MAGGOTS.

FUCKING BRAINLESS MAGGOTS.

"AWN I'M AN AGRESSIVE GIRL, I LIKE FINISH THE GAMES BEFORE TURN 8

CONTROL IS FOR THE WEAKS

LET'S HAVE A 5 MIN GAME

HAHA

THIS WAY I CAN PLAY MORE

HAHA

FUCK VALUE CARDS

HAHA

I'M A STUPID FUCKING BITCH"

..notices a warrior Boom avatar and warrior not listed LuL

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..notices a warrior Boom avatar and warrior not listed LuL

 

SINCE WHEN WE CAN GET 111 ARMOR IN THIS FUCKING META? THIS FUCKING AVATAR IS OLD.

I'M SO FUCKING DONE WITH THIS SHIT, ISN'T ENOUGH THE GAME FUCK ME EVERY FUCKING GAME, NOW SOMEONE WANT TO SAY BULLSHIT TO ME.

my experience doesn't matter.  i cant play ladder, i cant play casual, but thats okay because my opinion and experience is meaningless.

I've spent 3 days now getting hard-countered. No matter what deck I play, I come up against the perfect answer to it. Stuck at rank 15 0 stars now, with a 19 game losing streak. Not even joking.

I am curious. There has been a lot of threads about how "brainless" aggro decks are and that control requires IQ to play. Do people really think it takes skill to play control warrior? I mean, the deck is just dumb. Removal, removal, removal, Dr. Boom, rush and removal etc. It literally takes no brain to make those plays. 

The deck triggers me but mostly because it is such a straight forward and RNG dependent deck (Dr. Boom and Omega Assembly), and that people talk about this this kind of deck requires skill and IQ.

I wreck them with control mage because they run out of removal eventually. "Oh no, I don't have more removal how will I make high IQ plays?"

Assembly Delivery Drone Archivist means they never run out of removal.

Quote from KingCarnage >>

Assembly Delivery Drone Archivist means they never run out of removal.

 Sure they do! A single mech is not enough to keep up the board presence a mage can produce. 

So you're destroying control warrior decks while they are brainless and while they are a tier 0 deck you destroy them. Do you see the flaw in that logic?

I've been shutdown a ton by rogue players,tokens while i had 0 removal,mages that went book on 2 -> giant on 3 -> coin khadgar and conjurer's on turn 4. How's that ''skilled''?

It's true,control warrior is freaking insane atm but generally,it's doesnt always win, people in lower ranks can't really handle the resources all too well and lose cause of bad decisions.

Rotation didn't do anything to the game. It still feels exactly the same with new expansion. Good I didn't spend any money on it. People want competitive game mode that is not depended on your fixed matchmaking that encourages people to spend money. If you retards at your shitty office don't understand what it means. It's called tournament mode.

If you don't know how it should be done. Just give tournament mmr to accounts (You can hide it behind funny animation cartoon or title so people don't get offended as much as with just numbers). Seems to be current trend in all games. i really don't understand why. Then you make game mode with like 8 players and if you drop at first round you lose mmr, you draw if you drop at semis and gain mmr if you are pos 2 or pos 1.  It really can't be that hard to find okeish solution to this before your game doesn't exist anymore. 

Ohh well maybe you are trying to bury your company cause it really seems you have no idea what your customers want.

Diablo, WoW, Hots and HS. You have managed fuck up 4 games during previous 12 months. 

I'm working as storage manager/transport coordinator/human resources and if I would be this fucking bad at my job. I would get fired. It's cool you have working environment where it's totally okay to lose millions and millions of dollars without any consequences.

Messenger Raven > Khadgar is the new Primordial Glyph > Ice Block

I HATE Khadgar, but that's another topic for another day. My opponent just played Messenger Raven into Messenger Raven into Messenger Raven, fishing for the 2nd Khadgar he inevitably found so he could play 2 Khadgars and a Janalai on turn 10 with the coin. Khadgar should NOT be 2 mana for this exact reason. That's not fun OR interactive. That's just broken AF. I'm done for the day.

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Quote from KingCarnage >>

Assembly Delivery Drone Archivist means they never run out of removal.

 Sure they do! A single mech is not enough to keep up the board presence a mage can produce. 

 i listed three different things wth