I'm using an alt account that I'm making to try and convince my brother to play HS with me. My current best lvl is 17 with warrior and all i que into are people with 2-3 expansions. Maybe winning 50-60%, but I thought as a new player I would only be matched with other new players, is that not how things are set up?
At this point in time you'll be matched up with players that should be similar in skill to you, meaning that you'll be matched against players with similar win/loss ratio to you.
I believe this MMR only works across the Casual modes, not sure if it's separate ones for the two or not though.
Don't know what the matchmaking in Brawl is.
I suppose that's what should happen, you'll start facing easier and easier opponents the more you lose. It's designed to get you to opponent's of similar skill, where you'll win about half the games, so it makes sense.
No, its like everywhere else. You have a hidden mmr(matchmaking rating). The rank you are at, doesn't matter all. You will be matched with other people similar to your hidden mmr.
In ranked, no MMR except for legend rank. You face people with the same rank. In Casual, MMR. Arena, amount of wins and losses. Brawl, either MMR or amount of wins I think.
I think that's right, but just to clarify, I think it does record your MMR throughout the whole ladder climb, it just doesn't use it for matchmaking until you hit Legend. It needs to be recording it before you reach Legend in order to figure out where you belong in the Legend rankings. Some players will hit Legend at very high ranks like top-100, others will start at 4-digit Legend ranks, depending on their MMR.
Before you hit Legend, the MMR is irrelevant in Ranked, even though it's still being recorded in the background. Instead of using MMR, you get matched against players at the same rank as you, or as close as possible to the same rank without significantly slowing down queue times. So sometimes you'll be matched against players at different ranks, if there aren't enough players at your rank queuing up simultaneously.
so there is an algorith based on my winrate, not my actual collection/level, thats kinda disappointing
Only if you're playing in Casual. In Ranked, there's no algorithm, but it's still directly linked to your win rate, because your win rate determines your rank.
Collection size or XP-points level doesn't correlate to skill, so it should never be used to determine matchmaking. You are the perfect example of why that is true. You're starting an alternate account, so your skill level is (should be?) significantly higher than the average true beginner. What you're asking for is to be able to consistently beat up on new players. The MMR system is designed to protect new players from being preyed on by the likes of you...
so there is an algorith based on my winrate, not my actual collection/level, thats kinda disappointing
Only if you're playing in Casual. In Ranked, there's no algorithm, but it's still directly linked to your win rate, because your win rate determines your rank.
Collection size or XP-points level doesn't correlate to skill, so it should never be used to determine matchmaking. You are the perfect example of why that is true. You're starting an alternate account, so your skill level is (should be?) significantly higher than the average true beginner. What you're asking for is to be able to consistently beat up on new players. The MMR system is designed to protect new players from being preyed on by the likes of you...
not really trying to prey on noobs, but it does get old when i run into 8k dust decks with multiple expansions using a 300 dust deck and being BM'd the entire time, mostly by snorefest shaman players.
You didnt play a lot of ranked did you? If you keep losing you will end up playing against people way below your rank, if you keep winning you will play against people way ahead of your rank.
Only about 3000 games, without ever once seeing an opponent who was more than one rank different from me.
Watch some youtube stuff, there are videos around where people kept losing on purpose at legend rank and they played against people at rank 21. This can only happen with mmr.
And without a hidden mmr, how could you decide who's better in legend? Why is this one guy rank 200 and the other one is 150.
Right, you're talking about Legend, not about normal ranked play. Go and read the OP again. He says he's new, his current best rank is 17, and wants to know why he gets matched against players with great collections. Matchmaking for Legends is completely irrelevant to him, and your statement "You have a hidden mmr(matchmaking rating). The rank you are at, doesn't matter all. You will be matched with other people similar to your hidden mmr" is so misleading as to be totally incorrect as a response to this thread.
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I'm using an alt account that I'm making to try and convince my brother to play HS with me. My current best lvl is 17 with warrior and all i que into are people with 2-3 expansions. Maybe winning 50-60%, but I thought as a new player I would only be matched with other new players, is that not how things are set up?
At this point in time you'll be matched up with players that should be similar in skill to you, meaning that you'll be matched against players with similar win/loss ratio to you.
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I believe this MMR only works across the Casual modes, not sure if it's separate ones for the two or not though.
Don't know what the matchmaking in Brawl is.
I suppose that's what should happen, you'll start facing easier and easier opponents the more you lose. It's designed to get you to opponent's of similar skill, where you'll win about half the games, so it makes sense.
you should have added that you were talking about Legend rank, would have spared the WTF moment for some ;)
in addition, your scenario is not very helpful for OP ^^
In ranked, no MMR except for legend rank. You face people with the same rank. In Casual, MMR. Arena, amount of wins and losses. Brawl, either MMR or amount of wins I think.
Simple. Whatever kind of deck you are playing, they have some top secret algorithm that find the opponents with the worst matchup for you.