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This post is referring to game 7 of Savjz vs Orange in Seatstory Cup VI.

It's just sad, seeing how a brainless aggro warrior deck, requiring no skills and thinking at all, made Savjz's dragon priest deck looked like complete trash.

Basically Savjz couldn't do anything except conceding at turn 4. In fact he could have conceded one to two turns earlier. He is such a phenomenal player for his renolock and other creative decks like his combo Kun C'Thun deck. 

Orange won game 7 however, using nothing but luck only. He won, just because he luckily had two Small-Time Buccaneer early. A brainless rank 25 noob can play the same and made Savjz looked like a complete idiot.

Blizzard please fix the aggro cancer in Hearthstone. You are turning this game into complete meaningless shit.

 Yet somehow they DO NOT, and even with agro "cancer" decks... Only PROS win. :)

The life of the whiner: Think that all their loses and failures are because other things are OP, yet somehow they heroically keep playing with the no-OP things, but complain when lose... Say that only noobs win with decks that are not theirs... And yet only pros keep winning consistently... When they try those OP, cancer decks... They again fail...

Pls. What is the "aggro cancer" ?? Stop complaining, a healthy card game meta has: AGRO, MIDRANGE, CONTROL, COMBO. The 4. And I think currently for what I see, the 4 categories have good decks that are good...

If you are not wining that's not the problem of the meta but of your skill...

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Yeah but aggro is as frustrating as needed: what makes me saltier than aggro is people who play decks with no tools to handle aggro at all  that just win against control (and obviously I get to play against them)

 same, i swear if i run into reno priest with mindcontrol and deathwing the dragonlord again 

I think the only really overloaded aggro deck is Shaman ATM: may the problem me Patches, Small Time GP, Spirit Claws, Flame Totem or 4 Mana 7/7
PS: I play one teched Deathwing in my Reno Priest to have a surprise kill against Control, but that because 18-20 cards of my deck are anti-aggro xD

 im 100% fine losing to a non discovered deathwing because its edgy asf lol. but when some guy runs like 15 super greedy control cards its like are you serious right now. like you choose to lose 90% of your games just to beat me LUL

 So what are you complaining about more? Do you hate aggro decks, or the greedy control decks? Both equally?! So only everything in-between is okay with you?

When you have this many people complaining about it on a daily basis, there is definitely something wrong and i don't think it's just the game. It's mostly the number of people who only think to win.

Sometimes, Renolock can hang in long enough against the pirate onslaught.  Aoe removal or taunting up.  Target the 1/3 pirate over the 1/1. Mistress of Mixtures is great because they don't want to trade and sometimes they don't hit a weapon in their deck until a few turns.  Pirates really fear turn 6 Reno Jackson. (Turn 7 Abyssal Enforcer or many other choices)

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Yeah because 30 minute control mirrors aren't boring as hell or anything. 

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 no you assling, i like balanced gameplay. a meta were its not just rock-paper-scissors. there should be bad and good matchups for each deck but none polarizing more than say 65-35. and a game shouldnt be decided on turn 1 by matchup, turn 4 by aggro lethal, fatigue turns because of 1 card (jade idol) or turn 25-30 because they decided to build a greedy deck that loses to everything other than a control deck with anti-aggro tech.

Assling? LUL! Assling... I haven't heard that one before. I'm Just participating in forum discussions as many of us do, and can do so in a civil manner - no need to resort to name calling *sniff*. I'll have to use that one when one of my friends needs to be taken down a notch or two after he or she acts cocky after winning a few games in a row.

Joking aside, I do agree with what you said when you went into detail as to what you meant. I like balanced gameplay for the meta, I'm not a very experienced player yet, but I certainly don't like the current state of things in Hearthstone. I'm on 'cruise-control' for the rest of this season, as I've lost the initial excitement I had, hoping MSG might reinvigorate things in Hearthstone, for me at least.

Why your thread is complete trash - you qq and beg for Blizz to make game easier for bad players (rant)

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 no you assling, i like balanced gameplay. a meta were its not just rock-paper-scissors. there should be bad and good matchups for each deck but none polarizing more than say 65-35. and a game shouldnt be decided on turn 1 by matchup, turn 4 by aggro lethal, fatigue turns because of 1 card (jade idol) or turn 25-30 because they decided to build a greedy deck that loses to everything other than a control deck with anti-aggro tech.

Assling? LUL! Assling... I haven't heard that one before. I'm Just participating in forum discussions as many of us do, and can do so in a civil manner - no need to resort to name calling *sniff*. I'll have to use that one when one of my friends needs to be taken down a notch or two after he or she acts cocky after winning a few games in a row.

Joking aside, I do agree with what you said when you went into detail as to what you meant. I like balanced gameplay for the meta, I'm not a very experienced player yet, but I certainly don't like the current state of things in Hearthstone. I'm on 'cruise-control' for the rest of this season, as I've lost the initial excitement I had, hoping MSG might reinvigorate things in Hearthstone, for me at least.

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 Games ending on T4 is pretty much a clear signal competitive HS has a huge problem.

@thepoxbox Haha nailed it. My response to that dumb question too every time. 

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 Not at all. You are citing one example of a guy winning two tournaments as consistent? Nope. Doesn't wash. To win Two tournaments you need luck, and yes, a dash of skill. The skill being how to read your opponent's deck and possible plays. That does not stop it being 70/30 luck to skill level though. 

 After Thijs wins 5-6 in a row maybe, just maybe, it'll prove he is more skilled than his opponents. And the wins weren't because he drew the right AoE or the right Minion at the exact time that he needed it. There was a Tournament a few weeks ago where one of the participants was being battered, until he got a Frost Nova and double Shatter from Cabalists Tome. Skill? Or blind luck? 

High expectations my dude, there are not many Esports at all where a single player or team wins 5-6 tournaments in a row. Meanwhile this guy has been winning many tournaments and getting high finishes, as do other players.
When the argument is that any rank 25 player could take the place of Orange due to the simplicity or luck of aggro decks, and there are examples where the same people keep winning, responding with "nah I need to see 5-6 nr one finishes in a row first", you're just moving the goal posts.
Luck doesn't need to be abolished for skill to have a role.

 The entire argument that a rank 25 player could take Orange's place and win is contradictory in itself.  For every person who say that aggro decks are brain dead and that there is no skill in this game then how do you explain the same people making legend every season?  The large majority of people never make it to legend and yet these top players do this on a consistent basis.  I have just started playing the aggro decks and there is more thought to it then simply go face.  Just going face will win you some games but it will eventually even out over the long run.  Actual thought and skill is needed to reach the higher ranks.

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 Except that is simply not true, try again. There is definitely a time investment but you can play all day and not gain a single rank. 

Dude, there is close to no skill in this game. Its purely rng based. most games are decided by the opening hands. Unless they change the numbers of cards when the game starts, this will never change. on top of the that you have ridiculous rng effects in the game. I cant count the amount of games you win/lose based on the totem the shaman player rolls or the target Ragnaros hits.

There are also no exceptional good/better players in hs. All the tournaments are just marketing with a bunch of twitch celebreties. Take Seatstorycup for example. Wifecoach was just playing there because she is related to Lifecoach. Or watch the ludicrous decisions C4mlann did in his games (and still won)

More or less, all it takes to become a highly ranked player is the amount of time you grind with the current best deck in the meta.

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This post is referring to game 7 of Savjz vs Orange in Seatstory Cup VI.

It's just sad, seeing how a brainless aggro warrior deck, requiring no skills and thinking at all, made Savjz's dragon priest deck looked like complete trash.

Basically Savjz couldn't do anything except conceding at turn 4. In fact he could have conceded one to two turns earlier. He is such a phenomenal player for his renolock and other creative decks like his combo Kun C'Thun deck. 

Orange won game 7 however, using nothing but luck only. He won, just because he luckily had two Small-Time Buccaneer early. A brainless rank 25 noob can play the same and made Savjz looked like a complete idiot.

Blizzard please fix the aggro cancer in Hearthstone. You are turning this game into complete meaningless shit.

Minimum mana per deck. Solved. 

Plus i agree

secondly this expansion is horrible. Not fun at all for my chosen styles of play. Not interactive or preventable play. Might actually let me quit this game. Candy crush offers a higher skill set than this crap. Yeah yeah shots fired. 

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 Not at all. You are citing one example of a guy winning two tournaments as consistent? Nope. Doesn't wash. To win Two tournaments you need luck, and yes, a dash of skill. The skill being how to read your opponent's deck and possible plays. That does not stop it being 70/30 luck to skill level though. 

 After Thijs wins 5-6 in a row maybe, just maybe, it'll prove he is more skilled than his opponents. And the wins weren't because he drew the right AoE or the right Minion at the exact time that he needed it. There was a Tournament a few weeks ago where one of the participants was being battered, until he got a Frost Nova and double Shatter from Cabalists Tome. Skill? Or blind luck? 

High expectations my dude, there are not many Esports at all where a single player or team wins 5-6 tournaments in a row. Meanwhile this guy has been winning many tournaments and getting high finishes, as do other players.
When the argument is that any rank 25 player could take the place of Orange due to the simplicity or luck of aggro decks, and there are examples where the same people keep winning, responding with "nah I need to see 5-6 nr one finishes in a row first", you're just moving the goal posts.
Luck doesn't need to be abolished for skill to have a role.

 The entire argument that a rank 25 player could take Orange's place and win is contradictory in itself.  For every person who say that aggro decks are brain dead and that there is no skill in this game then how do you explain the same people making legend every season?  The large majority of people never make it to legend and yet these top players do this on a consistent basis.  I have just started playing the aggro decks and there is more thought to it then simply go face.  Just going face will win you some games but it will eventually even out over the long run.  Actual thought and skill is needed to reach the higher ranks.

lol Hearthpwn users conflating end of the month top 100 ladder with the grind to Legend... its not even remotely the same mindset. Grinding 51% winrate is feasible for Legend itself, but top 100 is winrate intensive, not time intensive, due to the MMR system. You won't just get there by virtue of sinking 10 hours a day into the game. 

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This post is referring to game 7 of Savjz vs Orange in Seatstory Cup VI.

It's just sad, seeing how a brainless aggro warrior deck, requiring no skills and thinking at all, made Savjz's dragon priest deck looked like complete trash.

Basically Savjz couldn't do anything except conceding at turn 4. In fact he could have conceded one to two turns earlier. He is such a phenomenal player for his renolock and other creative decks like his combo Kun C'Thun deck. 

Orange won game 7 however, using nothing but luck only. He won, just because he luckily had two Small-Time Buccaneer early. A brainless rank 25 noob can play the same and made Savjz looked like a complete idiot.

Blizzard please fix the aggro cancer in Hearthstone. You are turning this game into complete meaningless shit.