Hearthpwn

Feeling now is that the Quest is a flop. However I'm not sure Highlander is dead. I will try to use Reza, Kazakus, Drakonid in a new deck. The new beast we got today is awesome. Might be better to use the best from the old Highlander combined with some strong new cards but not trying to solve the Quest.

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You must be rank 26 to even compare the two.

@ancor3; fair enough, and it might indeed be the loss of stats is that big of a deal. Though Druid has even less ways to come back on board without Drake and Living Roots, one less way to cycle without Drake, and one less way to deal with something like a 5 mana 8/8 without Mulch. Like I said, I've been at the Priest/Druid matchup for a long time and this is very similar to how it's generally always been against the "Control killer" versions of Druid like Combo/Jade as a Priest; except in those days it was tempo Cleric, Pyro, and Shadow Priest while you prayed they didn't ramp too quickly into their midrange stuff.

Comparatively, Renolock is a horrible matchup because it might be limited to only reacting/developing... but it has efficient reactions to wide boards, and something like Jaraxxus is a lot more relevant against Priest than Jade Idol is when you can efficiently clear AND develop a 6/6. That's why it's far less effective in my experience than it is for Druid, even if you still want to maintain board pressure.

So to me I guess the big deal is I've dealt with better versions of Druid (in my opinion, Combo was worlds better) with worse versions of Priest. Elemental/Deathrattles fit my own strategy for handling a matchup that preys on reactive decks, and the Quest fits into that plan as a way to generate an extra threat for essentially free.  I would agree with the matchup numbers not being stellar, I think I mentioned earlier I felt confident with having a split matchup with Jade Druid as Quest Priest. Just 50/50, similar to Renolock vs Jade Druid currently.

So while I think we both agree that you need to outpace Druid to win, I think my own personal experience playing with/against Druid is that it really doesn't take much to outpace them. It just takes you doing something with your mana other than hero power for the turn, or finding a way to turn the board state around so that you're the one going on the offensive and can capitalize on the fact Druid is rarely ever good when its behind.

As for the snide remark, I'm not really all that upset over it or anything. I think it's stupid to bring ranks into the conversation because I don't think it really has any bearing on how good/bad someone's argument is, and so like I said if that's something that makes you feel better during the conversation more power to you. Maybe "your life" sounded harsher than it meant to, I'm sure a random guy arguing with you on the internet isn't really impacting your life much and that's totally understandable.

And obviously I could be completely wrong, maybe Jade Druid really is just impossible to keep parity with as Priest after Dragons rotate. But I think it's unlikely to be unfavored if we do see a reasonable proactive list form using Elementals.

N'Zoth priest will be low tier 2 at best. It doesn't curve out as good as dragon priest and it doesn't really have minions to get maximum value out of like dragons. And that's what Priest need. Tier 1 will probably still be pirate warrior and jade druid, but there is a possibility that with all the anti aggro tech that pirate warriors die off a bit but all that anti aggro tech just lets you open for Jade Druid to pull off better shenanigans. And while you play N'Zoth on turn 12-15, they already be pumping out 9/9's 10/10's & 15/15's on turn 10