Edit: the deck is in the second post, sorry for inconvenience
Hello guys, right now i'm trying a deck and i'm not sure what is the win condition. I want also to know how to improve the deck itself, I've crafted Grumble and Kalimos for this deck so i would like to figure how to pilot it, since it has a really bad winrates on hsreplay. Basically most of the time i win by fatigue lmao, i've even won against a kingsbane rogue, since the deck has so much healing power but no real burst.. Sure it can burst 10 damage with blazecaller and murmuring elemental. or get back some huge value with grumble if my elemental lasted a tour, but thats about it. If there's no way to make this work in standard, is there a deck i can pull in wild?
I forgot to post the deck sorry about that : ### Elemental Shaman # Class: Shaman # Format: Standard # Year of the Mammoth # # 1x (2) Devolve # 2x (2) Doomsayer # 2x (2) Fire Plume Harbinger # 2x (2) Maelstrom Portal # 2x (2) Murmuring Elemental # 2x (3) Far Sight # 2x (3) Healing Rain # 2x (3) Hot Spring Guardian # 2x (3) Mana Tide Totem # 1x (3) Zola the Gorgon # 2x (4) Hex # 2x (5) Servant of Kalimos # 2x (5) Volcano # 2x (6) Fire Elemental # 1x (6) Grumble, Worldshaker # 2x (7) Blazecaller # 1x (8) Kalimos, Primal Lord # AAECAaoIBPa9AvPCAqvnAsPqAg2KAb0BgQT+BbIGoLYCk8ECx8ECwsMCh8QCyMcC8+cC4OoCAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Terrible deck. Shaman is useless right now. Too many fucking boardwipes and easy ways to kill everything instantly. Blizzard HATES minions that live beyond one turn. Its all about 45 minute games where nothing happens until some asshole draws his combo.
Dont get me wrong - I like Shaman decks & elemental decks but they are worthless right now.
I tried almost this exact same deck on day 1 and unfortunately full elemental shaman just doesn't work well enough. The previous turn elemental set up just really hurts and forces you into sub-optimal plays which in this meta is back breaking.
I think the Murmuring Elemental would work a lot better with other battlecries, and Grumble + Kalimos + 2xFireflies could work well as an elemental package in another shaman deck.
Shaman is really bad right now, there is no deck that I know of that's good. It's still early in the meta so it might change. I saw somewhere exodia Shaman deck with OTK combo, it looked ok. Also Disguisted toast tried to build one today (or yesterday) so you may look that up. I think the main problem with Shaman is that he's not good enough to be a tempo deck (Paladin, Rogue and even Warlock have better minions) so it either have to be midrange or control, or even fatigue. But I don't see any way that Shaman decks can beat Raza Priest or current Voidlord-Guldan Warlock in a control or fatigue matchup. So the only thing that's really left is mid-range, which is kind of a lost art. I would look into combo that include Cube, Murmuring elemental, Fire Elemental, Grumble Worldshaker and Bonemare. It would work like this: fire elemnetal-> cube- turn2>kill cube on minion-> Worldshaker -> murmuring ele. -> Fire Elem. -> fire Eleme. At the end of this 2 turn combo you dealt 12 damage and got 2 fire ele. and Worldshaker. That's just an example that works with your cards, look into using some battlecry/charge cards to get synergy with worldshaker.
Edit. 15 damage from battlecrys + cube attack (4). So 19 damage in 2 turns, can either kill the board or go face without loses on your side.
EDIT. 2 With Blazecaller, which works as well, you deal 25 damage during 2 turns. Which can be a lethal. So that's your winning condition. There is no clear plan b, other than using Corridor Creepers and Bonemares to put pressure on your opponent
I stuffed mine full of jade cards instead of control bs, and that seems to work alright. Murmuring's got what jades crave! (It's got 'lectrolytes!)
The Jade Spirits really help out with the "previous turn" elemental triggers, Aya is sticky, and Jade Lightning is sometimes enough to put you over the top.
I guess if you're sick of jade, or if you are some kind of elemental purist, this wouldn't appeal to you.
Grumble is the fucking man. It might be my favourite K&C card since this deck is so much fun. (Great art, too.)
Edit: the deck is in the second post, sorry for inconvenience
Hello guys, right now i'm trying a deck and i'm not sure what is the win condition. I want also to know how to improve the deck itself, I've crafted Grumble and Kalimos for this deck so i would like to figure how to pilot it, since it has a really bad winrates on hsreplay. Basically most of the time i win by fatigue lmao, i've even won against a kingsbane rogue, since the deck has so much healing power but no real burst.. Sure it can burst 10 damage with blazecaller and murmuring elemental. or get back some huge value with grumble if my elemental lasted a tour, but thats about it. If there's no way to make this work in standard, is there a deck i can pull in wild?
I forgot to post the deck sorry about that : ### Elemental Shaman
# Class: Shaman
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Mammoth
#
# 1x (2) Devolve
# 2x (2) Doomsayer
# 2x (2) Fire Plume Harbinger
# 2x (2) Maelstrom Portal
# 2x (2) Murmuring Elemental
# 2x (3) Far Sight
# 2x (3) Healing Rain
# 2x (3) Hot Spring Guardian
# 2x (3) Mana Tide Totem
# 1x (3) Zola the Gorgon
# 2x (4) Hex
# 2x (5) Servant of Kalimos
# 2x (5) Volcano
# 2x (6) Fire Elemental
# 1x (6) Grumble, Worldshaker
# 2x (7) Blazecaller
# 1x (8) Kalimos, Primal Lord
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Terrible deck. Shaman is useless right now. Too many fucking boardwipes and easy ways to kill everything instantly. Blizzard HATES minions that live beyond one turn. Its all about 45 minute games where nothing happens until some asshole draws his combo.
Dont get me wrong - I like Shaman decks & elemental decks but they are worthless right now.
I win due to skill and lose due to bad RNG. :D
no one? please :(
I tried almost this exact same deck on day 1 and unfortunately full elemental shaman just doesn't work well enough. The previous turn elemental set up just really hurts and forces you into sub-optimal plays which in this meta is back breaking.
I think the Murmuring Elemental would work a lot better with other battlecries, and Grumble + Kalimos + 2xFireflies could work well as an elemental package in another shaman deck.
Ibn Fahd.
Shaman is really bad right now, there is no deck that I know of that's good. It's still early in the meta so it might change. I saw somewhere exodia Shaman deck with OTK combo, it looked ok. Also Disguisted toast tried to build one today (or yesterday) so you may look that up. I think the main problem with Shaman is that he's not good enough to be a tempo deck (Paladin, Rogue and even Warlock have better minions) so it either have to be midrange or control, or even fatigue. But I don't see any way that Shaman decks can beat Raza Priest or current Voidlord-Guldan Warlock in a control or fatigue matchup. So the only thing that's really left is mid-range, which is kind of a lost art. I would look into combo that include Cube, Murmuring elemental, Fire Elemental, Grumble Worldshaker and Bonemare. It would work like this: fire elemnetal-> cube- turn2>kill cube on minion-> Worldshaker -> murmuring ele. -> Fire Elem. -> fire Eleme. At the end of this 2 turn combo you dealt 12 damage and got 2 fire ele. and Worldshaker. That's just an example that works with your cards, look into using some battlecry/charge cards to get synergy with worldshaker.
Edit. 15 damage from battlecrys + cube attack (4). So 19 damage in 2 turns, can either kill the board or go face without loses on your side.
EDIT. 2 With Blazecaller, which works as well, you deal 25 damage during 2 turns. Which can be a lethal. So that's your winning condition. There is no clear plan b, other than using Corridor Creepers and Bonemares to put pressure on your opponent
I stuffed mine full of jade cards instead of control bs, and that seems to work alright. Murmuring's got what jades crave! (It's got 'lectrolytes!)
The Jade Spirits really help out with the "previous turn" elemental triggers, Aya is sticky, and Jade Lightning is sometimes enough to put you over the top.
I guess if you're sick of jade, or if you are some kind of elemental purist, this wouldn't appeal to you.
Grumble is the fucking man. It might be my favourite K&C card since this deck is so much fun. (Great art, too.)
THE ELEMENTALS WILL DESTROY YOU!
There is no way you would cut jade package from shaman