Fibonacci's Anti-Shaman Control Warrior
- Last updated Feb 18, 2017 (Gadgetzan)
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- 11 Minions
- 16 Spells
- 3 Weapons
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Control Warrior
- Crafting Cost: 8880
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- Created: 2/3/2017 (Gadgetzan)
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https://twitter.com/FibonacciHS/status/826663772681035776Quote from Ben BrodeRight now, Aggro Shaman is one of our highest win-rate deck, but has a 35% win rate vs Control Warrior decks that are tuned to beat them. Reno Mage is also a bad match up for them. Does this mean that it has become 'correct' to play Control Warrior? It depends on the other decks in the meta, and whether Aggro Shaman continues to become more popular. Fibonacci recently took advantage of the predictable meta and built a Control Warrior deck that did very well against Aggro Shaman.
Maybe they will buff Hunter's mid to late game. That would mean that Hunters get back but they won't be that aggro cancer.
I already see it coming:
so many people will play this deck on ladder expecting high winrates after Brode's comment and going to loose vs everything just because you cannot autopilot a cw deck like this !
Fibo is well known for being an expert for cw decks and I guess that he only played this deck on legend ranks, not for climb lower ranks up to legend so take this into consideration before start to play or even craft cards for this one :)
It is the deck he used the last dawhen the shamans number went higher wthan 40%
I only have one Sleep With the fishes. Replacement??
Which tool was used for collecting/showing the statistics?
I just don't get how this deck beats shaman.
Though so far with the deck in 10 games I have faced 0 aggro shaman or face warriors so that's not helping.
But basically, as shaman, you almost get a free win. Just play a thing, totem, pass. That's it. Just keep attacking, lower the armor, never play into clears and you can't lose because your totem keep adding up.
I think he won so much 100% because people didn't know how to play against his deck and because he lucked into perfect matchups. That's really it. Jade shamans would at least go 50-50 knowing the deck, which they do now. Now they just save a hex for Deathwing and it's easy peazy.
18-14 against Jaraxxus? No way!
In lower ranks it should be even higher. People these days dont know what Grom is. So your game plan is to sit and wait until they play Jaraxus. And proceed to killing them. Grom+Task if Axe is up already, or Grom + any activator if Gorehowl up.
So far at rank 17 in 19 matches I've faced ONE patches deck.
So.
Yeeeeeah. Majority is jade druid and control priest. This deck is ass.
So it's ass because you primarily faced decks that aren't what it counters? Nice logic.
It may sound weird, but wouldnt some spell power for example in form of Thalnos (card draw bonus) be beneficial, since you already use so many spells?
No, that would be useless in control warrior to be honest. The spells in this deck are not about doing a ton of damage as you may be used to with a mage or rogue deck. The 1 damage pings are good against aggro as they are, and also do things like trigger Acolyte of Pain and Grommash Hellscream and activate other spells like Sleep with the Fishes or Execute.
Additionally, you have Slam that could actually be worse in some cases because it makes it less likely you can use the card draw. Also Brawl will clear the board regardless of damage, and Shield Slam can do as much damage as you can stack armor. Let's not forget weapons as well that you will use to remove minions in addition to spells.
It's pretty good as it is. I played a few games with it so far and i like the results. Baron Geddon is a good replacement for Deathwing that can destroy more board-oriented decks.
Thank you, really good explanation.
I didn't have Deathwing so i am going to try Baron Geddon
i guess Deathwing counter the jades late game, but Geddon is quite a decent replacement too!
Replacement for 1 Dirty Rat?
Second-Rate Bruiser
Dirty Rat is basically irreplaceable though. It's the only thing you have to compete against reno and jade. If you can't pull those with rats, you're screwed. Kazakus + Brann singlehandedly beats this deck lol.
At least with Elise you can turn those 50 dead Revenges into something potentially useful.
Anyway after like 20+ games I'll say this deck is a pile of trash right now. Everyone is playing Jade Shaman ( rank1 legend lol whereas this was second ) and Jade Shaman crushes this deck if you know the decklist. Save a hex for deathwing and you win. Wow such deck, much great.
I have faced this deck with my Dragon Priest. The game went to fatigue and I won in a very nifty way. Truly enjoyable match! Quite nice to be seeing warrior being used for decks other than pirate.
Here is the replay : https://hsreplay.net/replay/yWDtCezcGyQWuzPXD8PnQU
A bit disappointed that this was not originally created by my opponent...