Hearthstone Patch Tomorrow - Floating Watcher to Tier 4
Blizzard just posted a short message on the Official Forums about a Patch coming tomorrow, which includes the announced nerf to Demons in Battlegrounds.
Quote from BlizzardGreetings Friends!
We have a small 16.2.4 server-side patch going live tomorrow with the following changes:
Once these changes have gone live, I’ll be sure to update this thread!
- Floating Watcher is moving from Tavern Tier 3 → Tavern Tier 4
- Fixed an issue that caused Galakrond, the Nightmare 's cost-reduction priority to negate the cost-increase effects of cards such as Boompistol Bully and Loatheb.
Cheers,
Chris_Attalus
Just had a perfect game with demons but no weaver or watcher. I had a triple and single soul juggler that carried me.
so tonight, out of 6 games. twice i got second place playing beasts losing against someone with 2 99/99 wraith weavers and 70/70 floater.
the other game i got 3rd losing to a player with slightly less stats than that.
good times.
I don't know why people expected a nerf to kill demon builds. Blizz didn't nerf watcher to kill the build, they nerfed it to lower it's power. You can argue if it worked or not, but that was the reason.
It's like murlocs. They nerfed murlocs in the past but every game seems at least two or three people still playing them.
thats why demons still win almost every game
its only like 1 in 5 games i see murlocs finish in the top 2
murlocs is because you can easily play normal game, until its just you and 2nd guy left, you could at that point sell every one of your minions, buy 3 of those 2/1 murlocs that spawns 1/1 murloc, play the gentledinosaur when you have 5 with bran or 6 of those and just snowball with the divine,windfury,poisonous murlocs.
Looks like the demon "nerf" didn't do squat. Just played 4 games in a row and demons was in first place every time.
like everyone has been saying, they really need to nerf wraith weaver. Floating watcher doesn't even really matter.
Great nerf, Blizz. 6 of 8 players in my last 2 lobbies still played demons with golden watchers.
Not to mention the mech bonanza. Small indie company, i guess.
They took Watcher to 4 but NOT COBALT?? It's just straight Cobalt meta now. Whoever gets the cobalts first wins the game.
Lame.
yeah nerfs demons and no the fuking murlocs
Didn't even realize there was a nerf, went demons and easily came in first. Noticed something was up when I discovered a t4 and got watcher 😂. Demons still very good. This is another nerf to afk, but that doesn't really matter as she's still much better than a lot of heros. Buffing weaker heros again would be a nice. They did a decent job with buffs before, hopefully that continues in the future. I'd like to see the battlecry buff a random mob hero(can't remember name lol) back in rotation also. With the new good heros he won't be so overpowered I think. Or maybe he's still just too good 🤔
I was hoping for some kinda buff to beasts. Right now they are by far my 4th option to build into (5th if you include neutral mobs with tirion). Successful beast builds I hardly ever see now also. They are WAY too dependent on the battle going from left to right, each mob dying in order. Things stray from that and you lose. I'm mid 7k rating for reference.
Why does blizzard not feel the need to use patch notes for changes like this?
They really like doing server side patches without updating the client patch notes.
Very disappointing.
Also, I wonder if they are ever going to fix the issue where you can encounter the same opponent every other time. There was a patch a long time ago that said they fixed this to every third time was the soonest but they never actually implemented it?
I heard the nerf went live recently, hows demons doing for you guys now? Could soul jugglers replace watchers?
The problem is that not just Floating Watcher but the fact Wrath Weaver is tier one. Moving Floating Watcher to tier 4 is a step in the right direction but Wrath Weaver is way too common for tier 1. Wrath Weaver needs to be changed from common to rare and moved to tier 2 so it doesn't show up as often and give everyone a super start. They should also change the +1 damage to +2 damage as well to make Wrath Weaver have a balanced draw back. Even if you don't go full daemons Wrath Weaver is easy to buff with little penalty if you get it early on.
A buffed wrath weaver without watchers isn't a huge deal though, it's like pre-watcher inclusion demons which sort of sucked.
Oh, so you want Demons to be completely unviable in the game? Because, this imagined scenario you have where you just go nuts buffing Wrath Weavers to super high levels clearly doesn't take into account the cold hard reality that one hard loss at any point in the game, and you've got next to no chance to make it into the top 3.
The thing is though, most successful "demons" builds don't have that many demons. They're Wrath Weaver + Floating Watcher and then other stuff with one slot that continually spams and sells demons. It's not like murlocs where you have murlocs and then you buff the murlocs with murlocs. You just buff two cards by playing ANY demon over and over.
Incorrect. I have won many top 1st and second place finishes because I had one or two Wrath in the early game buffed with other strong minions in the end game. I mainly lost to other builds who had Watcher when I did or poison minions. Most people still pick Wrath in the beginning since it scales and can easily be buffed by daemons even if you're not playing daemons. A +2 or +4 buff each round for only one damage is huge. People who don't understand this most likely have under a 5K MMR.
I dont understand why Galakrond Rouge is not nerfed. Its bullshit. All those infinite lackeys, zero mana cards are so bullshit and noskill plays.Cards should cost 1 mana not zero and now its more fair but still annoying. Also djin should be nerfed to 3 mana and bye bye twisting nether. Embiggen should be nerfed to cost three mana more. No bullshit allowed. Alextrazza 9 mana but one dragon. Also Forest Aid shouldn't be twin spell. Why is this bullshit possible? This game is so bad and annoying....and what? we get 2 small updates. AAHHAAHAHHA...what a sad joke.
maybe coz he is low tier 2?
It sounds like you just don't like the game.
Maybe you should move on to something else and come back after a break to see if you start enjoying it again.