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Hello, hope you all are having a great day.
https://ibb.co/WcfMvPr
Ugh, it won't show the picture the right way.
Anyway, I finally got to gold.
I believe I have been playing Hearthstone since April 2014, and never made gold.
Last matchup was Rogue and the stats said I was 8-1 against Rogue. Hung in there and got the win.
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Quote from Andrei2007 >>To beat Priests, just play Zephrys to force a Hex and open a new thread when you get shadow word:death and windspeaker instead.
thank you for this laugh, sir.
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You could not expect blizzard to thoroughly nerf the lunacy deck. It fits their design philosophy too well. Lunacy mage is the type of gameplay that blizzard thinks is fun.
What rank are you at?
They've blatantly said they do not want the card being competitive so why you feel the need to just lie and say otherwise is really weird. It was nerfed within 2 weeks of actually becoming good, having spent months as a trashy meme. The card has been relevant for 2 weeks since it was released, what about that suggests its a card they want to push?
Why won't anyone say what rank they are? It may be that which is the reason you're struggling. No issue with that at all, just be honest instead of snide and you might get some help on how to play against the deck.
Rank has nothing to do with someones take of a card. A card should be well received if it promotes skill and creativity. If it just supports high face damage per turn it is eligible for a nerf. If a card makes the gameplay of a opponent virtually impossible ( e.g. Tickatus) it is ellible for a nerf.
But since the target audience is to be served, Lunacy isn't really nerfed as with the case of Tic.
But it does though, of course it does. Your ability to understand, predict and react to the deck you're facing is important. If you think it isn't then I just assume you're lower rank and by that I mean platinum, gold, that sort of rank.
Lunacy hasn't troubled me in the slightest. If you think it's as good now as it was pre nerf then it's a you issue. It's no where near as common either (in my experience) which is also why I ask about rank, for example control tickatus sees a lot more play the lower rank you are.
If you agree that they actually want lunacy being a strong card, you're just demonstrably wrong. They have openly said they don't want it and it was nerfed very swiftly once it became important in a strong deck.
What 'target audience'? I've seen this a few times and it's just a throwaway dig, a nothing comment. You don't get to just say things and thus it is now true. Please explain how merging a card within 2 weeks and in fact deciding to nerf it even sooner than that, is anything to do with pandering to a 'target audience'?
Makes zero sense, the card is now slow as hell and I am personally bitch slapping mages now, I wasn't before. I had one throw down lunacy on 4 earlier, leading to a concede after my next turn because they had just passed their entire turn and I got ridiculously ahead on board, even if they could access a flame striker it wouldn't have wiped me.
You're either making bad plays, are being incredibly greedy or both, if lunacy is a problem for you.
Instead of this 'target audience' bullshit, explain and show how it is still a problem card. I've asked this multiple times and not one of you lot actually answer. I genuinely don't understand how people see this as a problem now, I'm more than open to hearing why I'm wrong though.
I have a feeling I'm going to be waiting a looooong time for an answer. I hate to assume but i can't help but guess you're one of those people who say the game is rigged because you can't get past gold 5.
Oh dear, what have we here? Let me try and help you understand. Let me educate you a bit, but I fear it will not help.
Commentators on fora like these can be grouped in two camps: the incrowders and the out-of-the-box thinkers. I take the liberty to render you in the former:
- Devs are wise and know what there are doing. If they nerf, they do a good job.
- There are no insane aggressive or busted cards: just play a counter deck, or play the deck yourself.
- Ranking-up is more important than playing a deck that challenges you intellectually. If a deck is 'mindless' but helps you to high rank, that's the way to go.
- you only complain when you lose. A winner don't see problem. A winner has always skill.
- Skill is the ability to see good plays. You can't reach legend without skill. The are no 'mindless' decks helping you to legend.
Incrowders like to chitchat about this card and that. They stand ready to tell 'complainers' that they suck at the game. You assume that only those at lower rank complain. Of course BS since even high legend rank players think Lunacy and for my part Tickatus are still busted and not healthy for the game. Incrowders don't think about card design politics that keeps the game fast paced for an aggression loving, low skill and fast to legend audience. Eventhough devs themselves admit that cards are printed for a certain audience in mind.
Then you have the out-devs-box thinkers. They tend to reason in terms of balance, skill, diversity; they hate too much damage out of hand (face damage per turn-ratio of spell mage is extremely high and even the nerfed Lunacy caters into that). They kinda look down to aggressive low skill intensive decks. They wonder about too steep RPS and they indeed see card design in favor for certain types. Wonder i.e why Priest hasn't have a deck like mage, hunter, paladin Rogue that is regularly a tier 1? Yes we all know about dragon priest, that was years ago.Reason? The target audience hate priest. That's why priest will never be dominant in the meta: priest players are not part of the target audience: too much thinking, too much planning, not aggressive enough. Capisce?
So my fellow humanoid we will never understand each other. What I'm trying to tell you that we live in different worlds. Intellectually, morally, qua ethics regarding a silly game and that card design is not made for those who want to play a game of skill, or win based on outwit, outmaneuver, simply outclass the opponent. Only those who play aggressive reach legend fast.The idea reaching legend, therefore skill is ludicrous.
So talking about Lunacy, Tickatus is difficult if you don't see the bigger picture. In the case of Tickatus. If you take down virtually have a deck, strategy is denied. Therefore you go aggressive. The card was made to make people flee to a counter. Exactly was devs figured out. But hey, if you don't see politics behind card design.....I guess that explain a lot about the way you think.
I guess you are going to declare me a lunatic. Like a flatlander would respond to a third dimension.
Lot of ramble, completely misplaced attempts at condescension, you seem to think a lot of yourself. You make a whole ton of assumptions and assertions that don't go any way to convincing me that I am incorrect and that the lunacy experience is the same now as it was before the nerf.
It's cute you think you're such a clever beaver. You've gone a really weird way of disagreeing with me when I say that lunacy is not as good as it was pre nerf. Instead you've bleated on about card design and seem to have spent more time on trying to sound clever than actually addressing my point.
Lunacy is not as good as it was pre nerf - in my opinion. That is it, it's simple. If you want to address that, feel free to go ahead. Don't ramble on about tickatus for ten minutes. We can have a seperate discussion about card design, how important 'fun' is, all that good stuff but that's a different conversation.
Keep it on track, I'll say it one more time, nice and clear - my disagreement with this thread is the suggestion that the lunacy experience is the same as it was pre nerf. I disagree. I find mage is far less common and lunacy is far less menacing when it is played now. That is it, it isn't the 'same'. It is a different experience.
Now, if you want to maybe present data pre and post nerf to show that the play rate is the same, the win rate is the same etc then I may get on board and agree.
Really wouldn't waste your time rambling about me or your opinion of what I think. If you want to know what I think, ask me. We don't know each other so just leave the amateur psycho babble to one side, it's not impressive in the slightest.
If somebody's personal experience is that it is the same, my current belief for the reason for that is that they are a lower skilled player. I'm open to having my mind changed.
I don't assume only low skilled players complain. Stop straw manning me. I feel its relevant on this particular topic, don't start telling me what I think about why other complaints come about because I will be very clear and say that the best player in the world can still complain. Things aren't as black and white, people don't fit into one of box X or Y as you seem to think. Nuance, context, middle ground, grey areas, these things are all applicable.
Please address the lunacy issue or honestly, just don't bother. If you want my opinion on some of the other things you've brought up, feel free to ask me instead of thinking you're super clever and declaring where I stand or generalise.
Cheers, ears.
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Idk mate but for f2p player saving a decent amount of gold for packs that will take more than a month and then having to save up 700 for chapter is pretty insane. Seems pretty ******** if you ask me, atleast make the adventures cheaper, not be 700 for 1 chapter or if you could craft the cards to cost as you were crafting them golden idk. Lets say you have taken 2-3 month brake from HS and you return 20 days till the next expansion how can you save soo much gold
im f2p player and i have all adventures unlocked and have most of the cards for any deck i want to create, you just want to get everything for free in no time, just invest your time in a game and you will get that, crying in forum for easy way is not an option
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I really don't know what you're talking about.
First off, DH in my experience going to legend last season was not common at all. Most games were secret mage, quest mage or mech paladin.
Secondly, most controlling decks do beat demon hunter, unlike what you're suggesting here. It's not that you need legendary draws to beat demon hunter with control decks, you need incredibly poor draws to lose to demon hunter with control decks.
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Then don't play Tavern Brawl
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It's just really unlucky.
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Rez priest a control deck? Dont make me laugh. Just cause its slow and its the closest thing u have to a control deck in standard doesnt make it a control deck.
But it IS a control deck.
It stablishes minions that aim to contain the freedom of the opponet (taunts), control the board (Batterhead), stabilize health totem (heals) and outvalue them, plus the direct removal.
One decently sized ress board can put a counterclock on other decks.
Control isn't just play 30 removal spells until fatigue hits.
You can use the same sort of argument to say Zoo is a control deck, in that it seeks to control the board with trades before going face. Rez priest plays nothing like traditional control priest though. IMO It's a mid-range deck. Bottom line is, you say control in hearthstone that translates to removals and board clears.
No offense but your opinion does not define a deck type. Control decks are decks that utilize spells/defensive minions to survive and win in the late game via big minions and/or attrition. Control priest does exactly this.
Control warrior ran 5 drop minions like dyno, but it was most definitely a control deck. Midrange decks run early minions and their curve tops out at about 7. Control decks typically run no small minions unless those minions generate value.
The goal of Rez priest is literally just to survive until they get to a point where they get massive value via mass Rez/catrina. Just because they play a 5 drop and then psycho pomp it doesn’t mean it’s midrange. It plays hoards of board clears and single target removal.
It is 100% control and that is not opinion.
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Quote from TyrantrumRex >>If Demon Hunter is by far the most played class, and it has a 67% winrate, how can it possibly be rigged to a 50% winrate? Not to mention the impossibility of climbing with a 50% winrate... You would enter legend, and it would be literally impossible to climb to a higher rank. If you climb later in the season, and entered at 15000, you could literally never make it father than a couple hundred spaces before falling back to 15000... You could ONLY climb if you had win streaks every run win 4, lose 4, in which case you would increase of a rate of 1 star per 8 matches, which is ridiculous. Decent players obviously climb much faster than that.
$100 bucks says the tinfoil hat brigade returns to let us know the links are broken, because Hearthstone is covering it up... BigTCG is controlling our opinions man! They're flashing subliminal messages in our game, so we'll drink Pepsi, and buy Huawei products!!!
I just spent every dollar I had on Blizzard’s shop because the 5G brain waves told me to!
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Quote from AssumedNewb >>Agreed. I type this while roping a res priest every turn.
Hope this fucktard dies from ****
You seem to need to put games down and look into working on a healthier outlook. I assume what you're saying is tongue in cheek but that's still not normal. It's a virtual card game, if you're wishing death on people over it then do something different because it's not healthy.
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Definitely meme, but who doesn't like a fun meme deck once in a while
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Ohh sh*t, I didnt see it was yourself. Obviously its a great deck with those numbers, but I dont know if we should congratulate you or be really worried
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What did you expect when you opened Duels?
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You get about 9 months worth of a legendary. That may be good or may be bad value depending on how much you use the card, your amount of dust and your general collection. It will also depend on your likelihood of playing wild or duels in the future.
I would argue though that if you play regularly and you really want the card you should craft it. But I won't promise it's the best use of your dust. And if you have a small collection and do not have enough dust to craft it, I would not do it
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Just make nerf every card that consistently can reduce other cards to zero mana cost, so they cant reduce them to less than one - wild fixed.
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Did you? You are the one whos complaining calling other people mindless robots because they dont play the game the way you like. Honestly the fact that you seem to be unaware that is what you are doing is baffling.
If you like the game, play it. If you dont like it dont. If you think you can make it better with at change voice your opinion, but do not shit on people for liking a game you so obliviously dont
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No. This is really bad advice. The good advice would be that sometimes you just cant play around the secrets and the most difficult thing is deciding when you can and when you cant.
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Og course luck will win you games. But as Björn Borg (famous tennis player) said: The more i practice the luckier I get
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Poodle are missing you don't have to play a lot of elementals in your deck with this card. Most likely the one game winning combo card will be the only one you are looking for. So the fact you can almost guarantee a certain card in your hand is always broken. Now we just have to find that broken combo
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Honestly I don't think the nerfs/buffs changed anything. I my experience the meta has a good variety in classes. But most classes does more or less the same. Therefore I got to legend and went to wild, where you get more variety in decks and how they are played.
But as you say the buffs and nerfs where to set up the miniset, and for that reason they can be more impactful down the line