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HikisnoWaifu#1588

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This card can break the meta. We still have to see some releases, but you can definetly put a board by turn 4 with copied cards and play this card getting instavalue btw. Rogue now seems clonish, violet teacher synergy is freaking great. We'll make probably a new tempo rogue/aggro rogue deck work if there are viable cards that copy themselves and return it to your hand. Synergy with the new rogue card aswell. People are really underrating this card. Like, seriously. Without conceal rogue won't have auchtionner shenanigans as much, so it actually makes sense that some new kind of interaction. ability like this give us rogue players new ways to play the game. Let's see. We can't evaluate the card yet, but seems great. You just need to think ahead.

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That applies to 95%+ of hearthstone. 

 No it does not not, but your IQ must be too low to understand that. You are huntard player after all.

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Hunter was healthier for the meta.

It would be as well still if it were what the standard for aggro was now. That's what people who are glad that Hunter is garbage tier don't realize. They are letting their own personal bias against Hunter get in the way. his is why their suggestions and "feedback" frankly should be ignored altogether. Face Hunter was famous for "turn 7 lethal" and that was when the Hunter had the perfect draw. Tell me, how many games against aggro now GET to turn 7? There are several factors as to why this happens as well. One factor that the people who despise Hunter regardless if they're even good in the meta or not fail to realize is that now only has aggro gotten faster but, because of 1, 2, and 3 drops getting a major power creep, have gotten more durable. 1 drops, for instance, now have 2 or 3 health which means that you're going to have to spend a lot of resources removing that 1 minion. When Hunters were the go to aggro deck their minions had very low health and were very easy to remove. This meant that if you have any kind of AoE at all (even Arcane Explosion) you would wipe the Hunter's board and stabilize. This gave you a LOT of room to then begin getting health back, build your own build of larger minions that the Hunter couldn't deal with, etc. You simply can't do that against aggro now-a-days. Mid-range Hunters really need it the most though, but since minion based combat is almost completely non-existent (due to the proliferation of AoEs and cards like Reno Jackson making minion pressure irrelevant) that is going ot be extremely difficult to do without some MAJOR overhauls and not just to Hunters either. 

 I find hunter a more gross and disgusting class then PW and Aggro shaman because of RNG involved, How angry do you get when deadly shot hits your big taunt on a board of 2 1/1´s? 

What about that animal companion hitting that huffer and ramming it down your throat? Or that lucky kill command extra reach draw combined with that oppressive hero power? 

How about their grossly sticky minions that make your eyes go bloodshed red?

How about Call of the wild being grossly obnoxious in combination with the other sticky minions? And freezing trap is a pretty good card. Sometimes you just can´t play around it because hunters were just crazy good at board control. 

All in all fighting hunter feels like your walking up a muddy slope carrying a vial filled with a thousand tears of your ancestors and saltyness and blisters all over your feet and hands. Mosquitos on your legs and wasps on your face. It makes you wonder why you play the game at all? I am so happy wild came, and all the sticky hunter garbage moved to wild, and all the other classes got better cards. 

I was actually less sad when the shaman got that second rockbiter together with his doomhammer then that disgusting TOPdeck animal companion huffer with deadly shot hitting your taunt and hero power finishing you off. 

I know this is a long salty mountain, but it is about the effect hunter has on people and the randomness ingrained in their cards.  It feels like you lost the lottery every time you played against them, because often their downside usually, wasn´t even that bad.

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Hunter was healthier for the meta.

It would be as well still if it were what the standard for aggro was now. That's what people who are glad that Hunter is garbage tier don't realize. They are letting their own personal bias against Hunter get in the way. his is why their suggestions and "feedback" frankly should be ignored altogether. Face Hunter was famous for "turn 7 lethal" and that was when the Hunter had the perfect draw. Tell me, how many games against aggro now GET to turn 7? There are several factors as to why this happens as well. One factor that the people who despise Hunter regardless if they're even good in the meta or not fail to realize is that now only has aggro gotten faster but, because of 1, 2, and 3 drops getting a major power creep, have gotten more durable. 1 drops, for instance, now have 2 or 3 health which means that you're going to have to spend a lot of resources removing that 1 minion. When Hunters were the go to aggro deck their minions had very low health and were very easy to remove. This meant that if you have any kind of AoE at all (even Arcane Explosion) you would wipe the Hunter's board and stabilize. This gave you a LOT of room to then begin getting health back, build your own build of larger minions that the Hunter couldn't deal with, etc. You simply can't do that against aggro now-a-days. Mid-range Hunters really need it the most though, but since minion based combat is almost completely non-existent (due to the proliferation of AoEs and cards like Reno Jackson making minion pressure irrelevant) that is going ot be extremely difficult to do without some MAJOR overhauls and not just to Hunters either. 

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I actually don't hope that Hunter gets a 2 mana weapon... Hunter is even more irritating when it's strong, and as you can see from Wild it gets completely broken when you give it a 2 mana weapon.  :P
I just want Blizzard to give it card draw or some form of heal/control tool, Combo Hunter is actually not that bad - it just loses to Pirate Warrior because it has no way of gaining health...  :(

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I was so sick of hunter, call of the weak, sticky minions, freezing trap as a bonus and sick burst spells

I am angry at PW but hunter must have been the grossest facedeck of all, yeah not even aggro shaman with rockbiter doomhammer

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I say we dance on Rexxars grave for what he put us through in the face hunter meta. . .

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2 of the most powerful decks in the meta being aggro apparently aren't enough for some people. When a class's niche isn't being filled is when we miss it. For example, Priest's unique abilities being unviable was really unhealthy for the meta. There was no other class filling the role priest fills. That isn't the case with hunter. Unless you have something to offer hunter players that isn't more face burn and charge minions, i think most are content owith the class as is. In the grave. 

Also worth noting is that Blizzard seems to unhappy with the amount of the pirate package on ladder. I think they expected in rogue and warrior, shaman is a bit too much. Hunter would on top of that would be ridiculously annoying. You are more likely to see some form of nerf to the pirates than a 2 mana weapon for hunters imo. Amazing though that people are disappointed that there isn't more cancer ladder.

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Make Control Paladin great again! (And just leave hunter the way it is, the first time of my life I enjoy the ladder without these SMOrcs). Srsly, I mean other Aggro decks are annoying too sometimes, but I just get instantly pissed when I see hunter. And that "midrange"-Hunter was also just face never trade, just with larger, sticky minions which can sneak in damage every turn. Against hunter I'm like scared of every damage happening to my face, 30 hp is just not enough. And the deck is just so incredibly easy to play, it blows my mind. I really don't see the problem of hunter being weak.

Aggro is good for the game.

As a reno and combo player, games get to 20 minutes long what gets boring overall.

And yes, reno is the thing that's generatting more pirates, aggro, face decks. What an ironic measure, i'd say Watson...

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Or this:

As a combo player since I began playing hs (used to play only oil and freeze), i've always hated hunter. Actually, i don't hate aggro, because I used to play it and it's beneficial for that easy climbing to rank 5. When you're rank 5, you generally use other decks like jade druid, renos (mostly renolock because warlock hero power is the best in the game), shaman (generally with the midrange version because aggro runs out of steam pretty quickly), and pirate miracle rogue (my favorite class is rogue btw, as you could already say). (forgot about pirate warrior and pirate dragon warrior to get those free wins against jade druid and to try to burst renos before they get those insane heals).

Hunter and Paladin died because the handbuff archetype is just too weak compared to jade golem cards and kabal cards. Hunter, even with some awesome cards like rat pack, is just so slow. What an ironic way for a class to be the worst today, the king of the SMorcs and one of the best midrange decks of the history of hs that was very good because of the hunter hero power, being although midrangy, very fast.

After reaching rank 5 this season in standard, I decided, then, to play hunter in wild and I discovered the way to make HUNTERS GREAT AGAIN.

In two days, I reached rank 3 with a reinvented version of face hunter, using pirates, and i've come to a conclusion that hunters need a two mana weapon to make its ressurgeance in the meta.

Glaveizooka, although not op, gave me insane fast hands, killing opponents in turn 4, what's broken, in my oppinion.

Another way to make hunters go over the top is giving them more recovery mechanisms like board clears (explosive traps aren't quick enough to help you survive against those aggro shamans and pirate warriors).

Thank you for seeing this post, hope you have a great day and give us your opinion on the topic.

Not a hunter player, been playing mostly renolock, renomage, pirate warrior (got to rank 5 with it because it's so frustrating to have an awesome win with reno decks and then lose those stars to 2 minute game where you get outrun, die on turn 5 before reno or just can't get it because you're mostly, unlucky), and pirate miracle rogue, a deck that some call bullshit, but I love it.

Forgot to mention that hunter, naturally a face/midrangy class because of its hero power, never got cards that could create new archetypes and survived from its strong class cards and from the release of expasions with cards like undertaker (hunter was bullshit back in the day, now it's just overclassed by shaman and warrior, feelsbadman).

Here's the deck I used:

Great taunt against face warriors, could win you control matchups. He's pretty good as a card.

Well. Prob Harrison Jones or Ooze, they have different roles.

Prob ooze because of kabal talonpriest.

Gl laddering :)

Makes sense, but generally you'll get a way of ramping.

That's why harrison makes the cut. It's used to kill mostly arcanine reapers and buffed upgraded weapons. 

But try it, if its better add me and we'll exchange ideas! :)