Today I open twitch and I see people playing Copa America qualifiers. Seriously, where was the info? I feel like there's a huge announcement board somewhere I just don't know about, cause I'm missing everything...
Tbh I believe it's because many of those players aren't actually pros. They're aspiring players who treat the Tour Stop as a chance to make a name for themselves, so they're bringing wacky decks to show off.
Region: EU Usual Play Times: After midnight CET most days, random times of the day when I'm not at work Level of Experience: Legend regularly, top 200 last month Preferred Heroes: Depends on the meta, my favorite decks in the past were quest rogue and silence priest. Mostly playing aggro paladin now. I’m Looking For: People in need of free coaching. I figured it would be fun to teach somebody. Tell us something about you: I started playing HS a year ago and started getting high legend ranks quickly, but never got the skill or discipline to finish top 200 until now. My goal is to qualify to the regional preliminaries every season.
In Gwent there is no upper size limit and yet everyone plays 25-card decks, often including multiple deck-thinning cards.
The thing is, you still draw one card per turn plus whatever card draw you manage to pull off, whether your deck has 30 cards or 40. So if you draw a pint-size potion, it equals one card you do not draw, like spirit lash. Most people would play smaller decks if they could, not larger, to increase odds of drawing your crucial cards.
If you only miss 800 dust to craft one of the strongest meta decks, I see no reason not to. 800 dust is spare change compared to the cost of a full deck.
All things considered, however, I'm still unconvinced that you've identified a problem with the new tour format - if only a handful of players in each region qualify for the benefits of the Masters system, instead of two handfuls, or three, what exactly is the complaint?
This is exactly the problem, but you're downplaying the magnitude of it here. Ideally, a handful of people would qualify for the top level benefits. If instead only a handful qualify for the lowest level benefits, with the upper tiers left out empty, the whole system isn't very different to no system at all.
Yea, he deserved to win. I loved how fr0zen brought the Mage and the unconventional Violet Teacher Druid to the tournament, but he lost the match when he didn't keep 1 of the UIs in the Jade mirror while Tom did.
I don't think that was a misplay. It was technically a Jade mirror, but Fr0zen's list was more aggressive with the violet teacher and mark of the lotus. He wasn't favored in a grindy match against a full control jade druid, so he had to hope for a midgame win.
You strongly overestimate amount of points you can realistically score from Tour Stops. 27 tournaments means 9 per region per year. Its open formula means hundreds/thousands of players compete for only 32 spots that give points. In a game like Hearthstone, where winning 10 rounds in a row requires both skill and luck, you can't expect best players to qualify regularly. Just look at those TS qualifiers that already took place. Many competitive players tried, very few actually got there.
Ladder gives way more points in total with less variance than Tour Stops.
That's why I added 1 tour stop win to the simulation for Tom's major cup win in December 2016.
EDIT: I just calculated it. 27 Tour Stops have a pool of 5157 HCT points. 9 months of Ladder, even if you only count top 200, has a pool of 46602 HCT points.
Dusting your collection to make one deck. This is a mistake I made and countless others have made. It seems like such a good idea at the time. Why not have one good deck and dust the cards your not using? As anyone who does this will soon learn its a disaster move. As a new player you really have no idea how useful some of those cards may be. You also have no idea if those cards will turn into must have cards after the next expansion. You also limit your ability to do quests and some tavern brawls. You will soon tire of that one deck and want to play another one. But you have dusted all the other cards you have to make one deck. The only real way out of this fine mess is to start over with another account, spend tons of money on packs, or suffer.
I disagree with this one. Dusting a large chunk of my collection for a single deck is what allowed me to become a solid player. I achieved my first rank 5 the same month and my first legend the following month. It gave me motivation to play more and become and practice and also I got a first-hand outlook of the competitive meta, so I could learn how to play against specific archetypes. A few months later I have multiple competitive decks and I get legend every season.
For those who don't know, a new master tiers system is being introduced this year. Under it you're classified into one of three tiers if you score enough points within a year. The thresholds are 150 for 1 star, 175 for 2 stars and 200 for 3 stars.
I did a simulation on how tom60229 would rank after becoming the world champion if this system was already in play. I converted all his points achieved last year into new scoring system. I assumed he's going to do just as well in January-March ladder as he did last year. I also added points for 1 tour stop win, as he did win one major cup last year, which is the next closest thing.
Ranked ladder
JAN 26-50 - 12 points
FEB 2-25 - 15 points
MAR 26-50 - 12 points
Season 1 ladder - 39 points
APR 2-25 15 points
MAY 26-50 12 points
JUN 26-50 12 points
JUL 201-500 4 points
Season 2 ladder - 39 points
AUG 26-50 12 points
SEP 101-200 6 points
OCT 201-500 4 points
NOV 101-200 6 points
Season 3 ladder - 30 points
Seasonal Playoffs/Champs
Spring 9-16 7 points
Summer 5-18 (C) 15 points
Tour Stops
1st 15 points
World Championship
1st 20 points
TOTAL 165 points
The concept of the tiers is fine but it seems to me whoever set the thresholds did not do a proper analysis. The world champion, who had also qualified there thanks to being Asia's top points grinder would only achieve the lowest tier. The reward for being a 1 star master are invitations to special online cups. If nothing is changed, each of those cups may end up being a single bo5 match between two players.
I was a very committed hearthstone player for 3 years and with the last extension kind of killed me... The meta is either very aggroie or very biggie with nothing in the middle and it's kind of dull...
I started playing Gwent 3 weeks ago and even though it got it's issue it was a very needed change.
I'll still probably go back to HS with the next rotation with the hope that something will change
That's not true, since Tempo Rogue, Zoolock, Dragon Priest and Big Spell Priest are popular midrange decks.
Stay with Aggro Paladin. Cut Val'anyr for Spellbreaker or Truesilver Champion. The meta is like 8 percent Warlock, you accept those losses(though its still winnable) and move on. THe meta is like 30% Priest, which your deck is good against.
Truesilver Champion is not a good replacement. Lower mana cost doesn't make much of a difference, since on turn 4 you're expected to play Call to Arms or Blessing of Kings or some minions at least. Val'anyr is used to deal the final bits of damage to the face. You can easily set it up so that the deathrattle hits Leeroy. Spellbreaker can be put in place of Southsea Captain.
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BattleTag: dogmeat#22859
Region: EU
Trade Only: Yes
edit: doing already
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Today I open twitch and I see people playing Copa America qualifiers. Seriously, where was the info? I feel like there's a huge announcement board somewhere I just don't know about, cause I'm missing everything...
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Tbh I believe it's because many of those players aren't actually pros. They're aspiring players who treat the Tour Stop as a chance to make a name for themselves, so they're bringing wacky decks to show off.
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Battletag: dogmeat#22859
Region: EU
Usual Play Times: After midnight CET most days, random times of the day when I'm not at work
Level of Experience: Legend regularly, top 200 last month
Preferred Heroes: Depends on the meta, my favorite decks in the past were quest rogue and silence priest. Mostly playing aggro paladin now.
I’m Looking For: People in need of free coaching. I figured it would be fun to teach somebody.
Tell us something about you: I started playing HS a year ago and started getting high legend ranks quickly, but never got the skill or discipline to finish top 200 until now. My goal is to qualify to the regional preliminaries every season.
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Battletag: dogmeat#22859
Region: EU
Trade only, you go first.
EDIT: done
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In Gwent there is no upper size limit and yet everyone plays 25-card decks, often including multiple deck-thinning cards.
The thing is, you still draw one card per turn plus whatever card draw you manage to pull off, whether your deck has 30 cards or 40. So if you draw a pint-size potion, it equals one card you do not draw, like spirit lash. Most people would play smaller decks if they could, not larger, to increase odds of drawing your crucial cards.
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If you only miss 800 dust to craft one of the strongest meta decks, I see no reason not to. 800 dust is spare change compared to the cost of a full deck.
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You strongly overestimate amount of points you can realistically score from Tour Stops. 27 tournaments means 9 per region per year. Its open formula means hundreds/thousands of players compete for only 32 spots that give points. In a game like Hearthstone, where winning 10 rounds in a row requires both skill and luck, you can't expect best players to qualify regularly. Just look at those TS qualifiers that already took place. Many competitive players tried, very few actually got there.
Ladder gives way more points in total with less variance than Tour Stops.
That's why I added 1 tour stop win to the simulation for Tom's major cup win in December 2016.
EDIT: I just calculated it. 27 Tour Stops have a pool of 5157 HCT points. 9 months of Ladder, even if you only count top 200, has a pool of 46602 HCT points.
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For those who don't know, a new master tiers system is being introduced this year. Under it you're classified into one of three tiers if you score enough points within a year. The thresholds are 150 for 1 star, 175 for 2 stars and 200 for 3 stars.
I did a simulation on how tom60229 would rank after becoming the world champion if this system was already in play. I converted all his points achieved last year into new scoring system. I assumed he's going to do just as well in January-March ladder as he did last year. I also added points for 1 tour stop win, as he did win one major cup last year, which is the next closest thing.
Ranked ladder
Seasonal Playoffs/Champs
Tour Stops
World Championship
TOTAL 165 points
The concept of the tiers is fine but it seems to me whoever set the thresholds did not do a proper analysis. The world champion, who had also qualified there thanks to being Asia's top points grinder would only achieve the lowest tier. The reward for being a 1 star master are invitations to special online cups. If nothing is changed, each of those cups may end up being a single bo5 match between two players.
Sources: HCT 2018/19 https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/xa/XA4973QH78H21513101064904.pdf HCT 2017 points scored https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/x4/X4VOI57PP6U41510163398231.pdf
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To people who use bots as an argument: if you meet bots at your level of play, you're ridiculously bad at this game.
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