Decks like this is a proof that hearthpwn will upvote anything and everything . and an answer to your question if " this to deck on the site will help you climb" because it won't ..
0-1 midrange druid ( did everything right come turn 9 they just combo me with a shade on the board )
0-2 egg druid (from turn 1 to turn 5 couldnt keep a single minion on the board though i got both injured kvaldirs from camels and perfect curve )
1-2 dreadsteed lock ( dced at turn 5)
1-3 raptor rogue (had control from turn 1 to 3 because he basically played nothing , turn 4 flurry , turn 5 egg and raptor shenanigans and i lose )
1-4 face hunter (webspinner (1) > flame juggler (2) > camel +webspinner (3) still lost at turn 4 . failed to draw taunt and deal with all the minions )
i would like to keep going . i ofetn don't judge a deck before 20 games .
and sorry for my language but . this is literally . shit .
no way to get back on the board . no way to deal with a board other than juggler unleash . no way to burst and finish . it's like playing zoolock on super hard mode .
i have no idea in what time and space this deck worked . but it doesn't work now .
i appreciate your reply . ill got edit the original post and add in the spread sheet from my games that shows that it's not a fluke or just bad luck or whatever .
and yes i don't know the answer this is why i opened a thread here hoping some one who have experienced or is experiencing similar issue know what's going on .
Hello . first of all this isn't me flaming , letting off steam , i legit need HELP .
every season i climb normally you get good matchups , bad matchups , you win some , you lose some . such is life .
this time something doesn't feel right ? .
thought it was supposed to be random or at least balanced, instead it's my exact counter almost every game. It's not bad RNG, 500+ games and 9/10 LITERALLY this is the case. I can play Midrange or control for 5 hours and almost all the people I play against are mage, paladin or hunter rush. Yet I switch to play THAT counter and I couldn't pay to see a mage, paladin or hunter matchup.
so i said hey ! , maybe because you are playing one deck , you should switch between now and then . and so i did
today i played a different deck for every game and switched between 5 decks .
not garbage , nothing i made my self that i wouldn't be unsure of , tier 1 current meta decks ..
and it didn't stop it kept happening . as soon as i switch .
i play patron , i get the one single guy in the universe who is playing classic handlock on ladder .
i play freeze mage , i get a control warrior fiesta who suddenly thought about running kezan mystic .
and so on and so forth .
and please . let's hypothetically assume im the shittiest player in the existance since this will filter half the comments of the people who will come and say " maybe you are just bad "
and again i mention . i have only played decks that are currently tier 1 in the meta , that way i can fliter another large part of the people who will comment and say " your deck is terrible , try a new one"
now that i got those two out of the way , i finished rank 4 last season , i usually finish between 5 and legend .
im not a pro player i dont say im a good player , im just a normal guy playing a card game to kill free time .
but having to deal with being matched with the exact counter to the deck i am playing almost every single time . is way too brutal and does not feel fair .
the deck does absolutely great against aggro . i checked my results and i never went down against any aggro decks ( except for that one tempo mage with dream curve and portal : l ) . ill try running 1x living roots and 1x chow and loatheb in place of fel reaver and hopefully go through a bigger sample size and get back to you . it has great potential but it's a bit of a pain to climb with it now :D . of course it got popular and some people are finding ways to deal with it and there isn't that element of surprise anymore .
perhaps it's the current meta or just my luck but fel reaver seemed more of a liability unless i had it coined and innervated at turn 1 or 3 and most of the time my opponent had efficient resources and means to deal with it .and ina couple of occasions he actually turned my state of winning around and i lost .
second , zombie chow x2 .
when you get zombie chow in your starting hand or in any time early . you are absolutely happy . but drawing zombie chow later on is a problem specially when you are a single card away from winning and anything would do but you get a zombie chow .
third , starvation .
i feel that the major and most common reason of my losses were because i passed 3 or 4 turns just drawing blank after blank while my opponent gained on me or recovered Hp and i no longer in range of combo to win . i absolutely get destroyed if i don't draw ancient of lore . and there is no option b to cycle in the deck so im under it's mercy .
last and but not least . thank you for the fun deck , i hope my feedback help you in any way in the future if and when you decide to make changes to it . have a good day .
sir finley had negative to no impact for me whether it is aggro matchups or control matchups .
second ,kill'thusad .
KT wasn't so bad for me , in aggro he was irrelevant as games never lasted past turn 7 and in control it was that " win more" card in case you are winning , and completely irrelevant if you are not .
third , tombspider x2 .
good card refil , even if you do not get the cards you want , still i say good card refil because ill happily accept any sort of decent card draw that can fit in my deck .
last but not least , thank you for the deck , and hope my feedback could help in any way into future changes that you would make to it and hope you have a good day .
old patron revolved alot around that one big explosive turn
this deck has boom , grommash , and kor'kron elites as win conditions/options aside from the patrons .
also having sir finley is really significant
and it's the ultimate " fuck you " for some decks like secret/midrange paladin , midrange druid .
as well as having good matchups against every other archetype with the exception of reno/hand lock ofcourse and even that is dependable on draws and mulligans .
lastly efter trying this deck for about 10 -12 games in a row it feels like it is just under the radar or that no one is expecting patrons or even warrior on firstplace .
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Decks like this is a proof that hearthpwn will upvote anything and everything . and an answer to your question if " this to deck on the site will help you climb" because it won't ..
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0-1 midrange druid ( did everything right come turn 9 they just combo me with a shade on the board )
0-2 egg druid (from turn 1 to turn 5 couldnt keep a single minion on the board though i got both injured kvaldirs from camels and perfect curve )
1-2 dreadsteed lock ( dced at turn 5)
1-3 raptor rogue (had control from turn 1 to 3 because he basically played nothing , turn 4 flurry , turn 5 egg and raptor shenanigans and i lose )
1-4 face hunter (webspinner (1) > flame juggler (2) > camel +webspinner (3) still lost at turn 4 . failed to draw taunt and deal with all the minions )
i would like to keep going . i ofetn don't judge a deck before 20 games .
and sorry for my language but . this is literally . shit .
no way to get back on the board . no way to deal with a board other than juggler unleash . no way to burst and finish . it's like playing zoolock on super hard mode .
i have no idea in what time and space this deck worked . but it doesn't work now .
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i appreciate your reply . ill got edit the original post and add in the spread sheet from my games that shows that it's not a fluke or just bad luck or whatever .
and yes i don't know the answer this is why i opened a thread here hoping some one who have experienced or is experiencing similar issue know what's going on .
have a good day
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Hello . first of all this isn't me flaming , letting off steam , i legit need HELP .
every season i climb normally you get good matchups , bad matchups , you win some , you lose some . such is life .
this time something doesn't feel right ? .
thought it was supposed to be random or at least balanced, instead it's my exact counter almost every game. It's not bad RNG, 500+ games and 9/10 LITERALLY this is the case. I can play Midrange or control for 5 hours and almost all the people I play against are mage, paladin or hunter rush. Yet I switch to play THAT counter and I couldn't pay to see a mage, paladin or hunter matchup.
so i said hey ! , maybe because you are playing one deck , you should switch between now and then . and so i did
today i played a different deck for every game and switched between 5 decks .
not garbage , nothing i made my self that i wouldn't be unsure of , tier 1 current meta decks ..
and it didn't stop it kept happening . as soon as i switch .
i play patron , i get the one single guy in the universe who is playing classic handlock on ladder .
i play freeze mage , i get a control warrior fiesta who suddenly thought about running kezan mystic .
and so on and so forth .
and please . let's hypothetically assume im the shittiest player in the existance since this will filter half the comments of the people who will come and say " maybe you are just bad "
and again i mention . i have only played decks that are currently tier 1 in the meta , that way i can fliter another large part of the people who will comment and say " your deck is terrible , try a new one"
now that i got those two out of the way , i finished rank 4 last season , i usually finish between 5 and legend .
im not a pro player i dont say im a good player , im just a normal guy playing a card game to kill free time .
but having to deal with being matched with the exact counter to the deck i am playing almost every single time . is way too brutal and does not feel fair .
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the deck does absolutely great against aggro . i checked my results and i never went down against any aggro decks ( except for that one tempo mage with dream curve and portal : l ) . ill try running 1x living roots and 1x chow and loatheb in place of fel reaver and hopefully go through a bigger sample size and get back to you . it has great potential but it's a bit of a pain to climb with it now :D . of course it got popular and some people are finding ways to deal with it and there isn't that element of surprise anymore .
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hello , i tested your deck for 20 games ,and here are my results and feedback.
1-0 secret paladin
1-1 midrange paladin
2-1 face shaman
3-1 dragon priest
3-2 zoo lock
4-2 tempo mage
5-2 face warrior
6-2 dreadsteed lock
6-3 midrange druid
7-3 mech mage
8-3 secret paladin
8-4 midrange paladin
9-4 reno mage
10-4 face shaman
10-5 patron warrior
10-6 tempo mage
11-6 reno lock
11-7 zoo lock
11-8 mech mage
11-9 reno lock
first of all , Fel Reaver .
perhaps it's the current meta or just my luck but fel reaver seemed more of a liability unless i had it coined and innervated at turn 1 or 3 and most of the time my opponent had efficient resources and means to deal with it .and ina couple of occasions he actually turned my state of winning around and i lost .
second , zombie chow x2 .
when you get zombie chow in your starting hand or in any time early . you are absolutely happy . but drawing zombie chow later on is a problem specially when you are a single card away from winning and anything would do but you get a zombie chow .
third , starvation .
i feel that the major and most common reason of my losses were because i passed 3 or 4 turns just drawing blank after blank while my opponent gained on me or recovered Hp and i no longer in range of combo to win . i absolutely get destroyed if i don't draw ancient of lore . and there is no option b to cycle in the deck so im under it's mercy .
last and but not least . thank you for the fun deck , i hope my feedback help you in any way in the future if and when you decide to make changes to it . have a good day .
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0-1 dragon priest-
2-2 faceshaman-
6-3 midrangepaladin-
7-4 dragonpriest-
7-5 secretpaladin-
9-6 fatiguewarrior-
9-7 fatiguepriest-
9-8 midrangedruid-
10-9 controlpriest-
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hello . i tried this deck for 20 games and here is my result and feedback
0-1 dragon priest
1-1 zoo
2-1 renolock
2-2 faceshaman
3-2 faceshaman
4-2 patron
5-2 mechmage
6-2 facepaladin
6-3 midrangepaladin
7-4 dragonpriest
7-5 secretpaladin
8-5 secretpaladin
9-5 controlpriest
9-6 fatiguewarrior
9-7 fatiguepriest
9-8 midrangedruid
10-8 mechmage
10-9 controlpriest
11-9 renopaladin
first of all , sir finley .
sir finley had negative to no impact for me whether it is aggro matchups or control matchups .
second ,kill'thusad .
KT wasn't so bad for me , in aggro he was irrelevant as games never lasted past turn 7 and in control it was that " win more" card in case you are winning , and completely irrelevant if you are not .
third , tombspider x2 .
good card refil , even if you do not get the cards you want , still i say good card refil because ill happily accept any sort of decent card draw that can fit in my deck .
last but not least , thank you for the deck , and hope my feedback could help in any way into future changes that you would make to it and hope you have a good day .
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funnily enough i played against some one today on ladder who i thought was playing regular zoo/flood
turned out he was playing the same deck . i lost because he managed to have windfury on his seagiant along with PO .
good luck on ladder , thanks for the deck :D
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went 6-4 with it
it's fun to play , not the best zoo deck .
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before i downvoted this i played 20 games and won 5 , 2 of these 5 games were due to opponents leaving/disconnecting .
and most of the games i lost i didn't live past turn 5 .
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Great deck .
old patron revolved alot around that one big explosive turn
this deck has boom , grommash , and kor'kron elites as win conditions/options aside from the patrons .
also having sir finley is really significant
and it's the ultimate " fuck you " for some decks like secret/midrange paladin , midrange druid .
as well as having good matchups against every other archetype with the exception of reno/hand lock ofcourse and even that is dependable on draws and mulligans .
lastly efter trying this deck for about 10 -12 games in a row it feels like it is just under the radar or that no one is expecting patrons or even warrior on firstplace .
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Behold the might of the obviously superior murloc race !
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and here we have the average aggro player in their natural inhabitant leaking sodium and tears of anger after losing to a reno deck