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    posted a message on Counter that card!

    Blood Knight

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from ibraman »
    Quote from Lellstjithole »

    Haha, people crying over mill decks now? Hilarious.

    People will always cry... while other people will seek for "unbeatable decks"...

    As soon as someone finds an unbeatable deck people start crying again... first it was facehunter, now its mill... I believe people just want to play someone without any cards in them so they wont be annoyed by them.

    Thanks for the huge misunderstanding :), mill rouge is far from being unbeatable

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    posted a message on Emperor rouge

    Shade of naxxramas

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    posted a message on [S12 Legend] Control warrior

    Brawl, just don't waste it when facing paladin until he played the combo.

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from Stat1cVo1D »

    I called it! I knew Gang Up would be freakin insane in Mill Rogue and ppl kept rating it as a 1/10,...
    Millrogue pretty much hardcounters every Control Deck there is right now,... The setup vs. aggro is also not bad thx to Deathlord, the potential of 8 (!!!) Antique Healbots and paired with the usual rogue removals.
    Even Paladin has a ton of problems if the Rogue Vanishes a full board with silver hand recruits,... Only weapon to face can save you here and being careful with your Hero Power is a must.

    I only see Combo Druid currently being really favored,...

     

    Where have you been the whole day :)

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from Sahgos »

    Emperor Thaurissan is a great anti-Mill card.  What better than having a load of cards in your hand when you play Thaurissan.  I've already seen the Mill playstyle blow up in Rogues' faces when Thaurissan is dropped on the board.

    Yes it is very good if it is not burned , it makes control decks have chance of winning against mill rouge, but it is not that important in aggro classes imo

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from Sahgos »

    Gang Up certainly makes fatigue/mill decks easier to construct.  Blizzard has stated they aren't supportive of card destruction playstyles but they surely understood the potential of this card.  My advice is to just grin and bear it.  Those decks pan out some time and other times they are horrific failures.

    Yes the potential of gang up is great if people start using it in other deck types, imagine many loatheb ,dr.boom or sludge belcher it is very interesting card for sure.

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from iandakar »

    +1 from me for the understanding, i'm sure that i read an article in the past that about blizzard devs not liking the mill concept in other TCG games and they discourage that mechanic in hearthstone , but i didn't find that article now :( 

    Can't remember where but the article does exist.  Note, though, that they also consider 'fatigue' as a big solution to the issue of mill since you are technically still dying to damage rather than just running out of cards.  What they HATED though was the "discard an opponent's card" mechanic as they want people to be able to play the cards they have.

    So the concept of fatigue kills will probaly stay if it doesn't dominate the game.  THe concept of BURNING cards will be more watched.  

    Thanks for the clarification :)

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from ShadowsOfSense »

    The problem that everyone is ignoring is that the OP isn't complaining about how OP Mill decks are - just that they hate the concept of milling.

    To that I have to say, um, tough shit? Sorry, but mill decks have been a part of every TCG I've been a part of (Pokémon, Yugioh and MTG have all had Mill decks - I just faced a Mill deck today in PTCGO). It's another style of play that people will run. If it becomes a rampant problem like Miracle did, they'll nerf it. If not, deal with it.

    This game can't be balanced around 'Oh, I don't like this mechanic, can we just not have it?'. That's like me saying 'Oh, I don't like Freeze Mage, can we just remove Freeze from the game?'.

    I am sorry that you feel that Milling is an unfun mechanic, but you just have to deal with it. As I said before, if it becomes OP they'll nerf it somehow, but I don't think it will, so you're gonna  have to live with it. I personally welcome a new style of Rogue play.

    +1 from me for the understanding, i'm sure that i read an article in the past that about blizzard devs not liking the mill concept in other TCG games and they discourage that mechanic in hearthstone , but i didn't find that article now :( 

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from Nuba »

    This thread is just so wrong in so many levels.

    Complaining about Gang Up is like complaining about Totemic Might... But damn, people are creating THREADS about it? really? god....

    The world is a sadder place

    Sorry the thread is not wrong as you say , Gang up is not like Totemic might by miles

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from Plunderway »

    I still highly suggest you play this deck yourself at least once, even if it's just casual (at least you won't feel bad for your opponent then for whatever reason).

    You'll probably notice how difficult it is to actually mill your opponent if your opening hand is prep, sap, prep shadowstep and you don't draw into coldlight until you have 10 cards left and you're at 8 hp. 

    My friend , i said multiple times that mill rouge has its weakness - rely heavily on mulligan cold light oracle - , i don't like the milling idea itself. Thanks for the reply may be i'll will try in casual.

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from Hearthsam »

    If you lost to mill rogue you probably would have lost even harder to a regular oil rogue :/

    I only lost to regular oil once , in the last 5 matchups which is ok imo

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from Mister_Smith »

    Well the problem here is very simple. The OP dislikes the very concept of Mill decks, which is fine everybody dislikes some kind of archetype and feels like playing it or playing against it isn't fun for me personally it's freeze mage, the deck just feels wrong to me and leaves very little room for interaction. 

    But something we've got to accept when playing any TCG including Hearthstone is that there are a variety of viable strategies, many different archetypes and all of those should have a place in a well balanced card game. Now - again - you may dislike certain archetypes but this game like most TCGs is basically balanced around hard counters.

    There's a counter deck for pretty much every strategy you could come up with and if you feel annoyed by mill rogues and feel like you are facing a lot of them then you simply have to adapt to that adjust your deck accordingly or just play an archetype that straight out destroys that kind of deck like Mech Mage/shaman. 

    At the end of the day we as players enjoy different kinds of decks and everyone who enjoys playing mill should be allowed to do so regardless of other people disliking the concept of that deck.

    Much respect to you my friend. I don't hate people playing aggro decks or any decks they want, but let me play my cards too. keep the game interactive :)

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from Plunderway »
    Quote from TheCezus »
    Quote from Plunderway »

    Why don't you try to play it if it's so good?

    Trust me, this deck works far less often than you think it does so stop crying about things you have no idea about.

    Cause i don't find it fun , i don't play decks relying on annoying tactics -mill or face hunters-,i always play with fair and decent midrange or control decks

    Maybe you should stop worrying about the well-being of other people and instead do what you want to do. Every deck is going to annoy someone, for example I hate playing against midrange druid.

    Do I go around complaining about FoN + SR?

    Nope. So why are you complaining?

    Dude we all hate Face hunters , mech mage , combo druid and any other annoying combo but at least in those matchups you can play your cards making efficient trades or playing around the combos , but in mill matchups you can't play a numbers of your cards, and overdrawing can occurs to you even if you are playing right from the start unless you are playing super aggro decks.

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    posted a message on Gang Up messed up !
    Quote from Plunderway »

    Why don't you try to play it if it's so good?

    Trust me, this deck works far less often than you think it does so stop crying about things you have no idea about.

    Cause i don't find it fun , i don't play decks relying on annoying tactics -mill or face hunters-,i always play with fair and decent midrange or control decks

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