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Im honestly holding my opinions of the new system until the end of expansion. If my gold is less than 5k its shit and blizzard are greedy and bad, if its more or equal its fine.

 I wish more people had your patience.

They've already announced that there will be special events to boost XP during the season, so it doesn't make sense to be judging everything until we have more info.

 It doesnt matter if i get more gold by the end of expansion imo. 2 weeks into the expansion i still didnt get my free leg from first 10 packs because i wasnt able to open 10 packs. And i am at level 24. Playing 5 minutes every 3 days just to login concede 6-9 games and leave. I want to play the game i enjoy and like, i want to accomplish something everyday. 

   I can give an example like this, imagine if you were at a job who pays you in total of 90.000 every year, but pays monthly. And then someone else comes in and says , hey we are gonna give you 100.000 yearly, but we are gonna pay by the end of the year. So you are not gonna get any money until the end of the year. It sounds like a profit, but i would highly prefer the 90.000 but monthly over the 100.000 . Thats how this new battle pass feels. Maybe we do get more by the end of they expansion. Maybe it will be better at those times, but i dont care if it costs my entering expansion time because of ridicoulus exp requirements. 

I see a lot of people immediately jumped into card either being thrash or good. 
 I dont know what op was intended but personaly speaking i dont think its about being thrash or good as a power wise.The card as a stat wise and the text wise is disgusting in a meta that WİLL BE slow. At least thats what it looks like so far. Imagine in old gods expansion you are playing a nzoth deck. And the guy plays this to burn it. Boom gone, reduced to atoms. How would it feel? Yes maybe you still somehow win, but the feeling it lefts in your mouth is just absoulute garbage.
  One of the biggest examples i can give is divine favor. Divine favor god hof'd because it was a card that punished a playstyle. Any time you want to play control divine favor would punish you for playing control deck. How is that my fault? What could i have changed? Nothing. But against a hunter deck oh boy you would never be able to play divine favor. Maybe to draw 1-2 card.
   Also same feeling was on shudderwock. If you were a control deck shudderwock would always win. he had heals, a combo that would %100 win and there was no distruption cards. I was literally conceding all my matches against shaman instantly. 
    I am not saying game shouldnt have tech cards. One of the card i love the most in this game is dirty rat for gods sake. But if the tech is more spesific or avoidable its way to better. For example if tictatus was discarding like 2, 3-5 mana cards and 3, 7-10 mana cards. I am just saying some dumb idea dont stick to it, it could be way to much better. Since i can at least even tho its a really small chance, play around it. And that feeling when you go smart and get rewarded by it is just a perfect moment. But I can in no shape or form ( unless i played polkelt ) can change what i have in my next 5 draws. And its completely jesus take the wheel and make me lose or win the game in a control matchup. As i said the card might not be powerful right now. But if control warlock comes back with enough control card, this card will be the winning card of warlock everysingle time.

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I look at this whole mess like this.

Before when i get 50 gold quest, i would swap it for bigger one, if i get 60 gold quest i would play for around two hours and get 40 gold for my pack and that was my daily routine. I would wait until midnight, play for two hours, get a pack, stay awake for hour or two more and go to sleep. 

I am glad that right now we aren't forced to win and that game is based on time played and not number of wins. Which means that we can enjoy while playing all kinds of decks.

However i am currently around lvl 16 like most of the people that finished their quests and xp needed for next level is 2400. That is a lot, especially if you take into consideration that daily quest give us 800 xp. Which means that i need 3 times the amount of daily quest in order to get a single pack. That is at this rate unacceptable. To make thing worse you can't even see how much xp you earned in battle and you don't even know if you hit xp cap per hour or not (ofc you can go on track and check how much you earned, however will you go back after every game?).

In my opinion there shouldn't be any cap per day or per hour for grinding xp, there should be cap in total, which is 150 lvls worth of exp. If you spent for example 200 hours (random number) of gameplay during one expansion set, you deserve to have all 150 levels. Will you do all that like a maniac in first month or during whole cycle, that shouldn't be Blizzard's problem. After all, player won't earn anything more until next expansion come around. 

Also, i don't care for their excuse for bots. If you can't solve problem with bots without hurting normal player experience, don't solve it at all, because you are ******** and they should exploit you even more.

I don't want to hear any excuse when it comes to "you have also weekly quest, where you can earn xp for levels". When game add weekly quest, they do it in order to enhance player experience by giving them bonus. They don't cut earned xp from daily quests and from that make weekly quests in order to show players "look, here is something new in the game, now play the game and if possible give us money".

I played this game since beta and i know a lot of shit that happened with it during these 6 years. That is why i am still patient and i will let them clean and sort their mess (the same apply with Duels). However even my patience have a limit.

 Reading this , i said so many True's i cant even tell how many. 
 When i first saw that we didnt need to win anymore because exp was given out of everygame i was hyped. Because as a free to play person that doesnt have all of his time dropped into hearthstone, i usually dont get good cards enough to make couple competitve decks. So i usually stick with one competitive deck and a bunch that i made for fun. But when i need to win to open packs, i was only using my competitive deck thus the game was getting hella boring. But with this change i was so happy, until i saw how much exp i got for each game. Its like waves trying to find a way into the rocks on shores. I will level up if i play about 70-80 games in a day which is impossible for a guy like me to do. This is one of my biggest issues on this thing, they need to up the amount of exp we get from each match. Like double it or triple it, only at that point playing games will makes sense.
   Weekly quests is also perfectly said. Unless those quests give us 7-8k exp, they are garbage. And if they asked me to summon 300 murlocs but give me 7k exp i would do it. I wouldnt mind a bit. Because thats what weekly quest is. You finsih them in about 5-6 days so you will be ready for the next ones. If the weekly quests can be finished in a day, thats just a daily quest in disguise of a weekly quest.
    I didnt even know about the daily/hourly exp cap. But if it is a thing thats also absoulute garbage. As you said it would be super good if it was just a expansion exp cap. 
 

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I feel like a lot of the complaints come from people who play "less than average", if we assume average is roughly 1 hour per day (or 7 hours per week).

To me, it sounds like people want to get a ridiculous amount of rewards for playing, say, 3 hours per week?  That doesn't make any sense to me.  If you want rewards, you have to slightly grind.  I think the new system is either a sidegrade or better than the old system.  Factor in the potential pro that getting achievements "feels good"... I don't know why so many people complain.  People just love to focus on negativity, and then they complain about why everything sucks haha.  

 You have a Naruto Profile picture. Are you old enough to say something like that? Do you realize that many ppl work, study and just used to play HS by 2-3hours a day, for 30 days and was really okay with that? Get some responsability in your life first than you can come back here and speak of adults.

 Dude, games are made for people who have time. If you have job either dont play a game or play something that requires less time. What kind of a fucking mindset is this? ENTERTAINMENT companies make things for people who has time to ENTERTAIN themselves. Can you imagine a middle eastern kid who's country has civil war goes and says:" Blizzard i cant play games because i have to go to a war at the same time, reduce the amount of grind!" As ridicoulus as this sounds you are literally asking for the same.
   There is also a reason why games like mmorpg's died. Or dota become less popular in time. Because people didnt have time for games that takes 60 minutes for each game , or daily 7-8 hours of grind. Some people like it and has time some dont. Stop crying for something thats so selfish.

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I dont know what you guys are eating for dinner nor breakfast.

 Not hard to figure out what you've been eating.  Team 5 dick!!

This is exactly the reason why they have changed the reward system.  So people who don't think too hard get all excited about the extra rewards they're going to get.

Newsflash mate - it's less than 48hrs and they haven't even announced the cost of the Battle Pass, much less the structure of the rewards chain.  It's going to be a complete shit show.  If you think this developer is going to give away *more* stuff than it has had to in the past, you're deluded.  They'll dress their mutton up like lamb so the non-thinkers will eat it up while they pull the rug out from under your feet.

 wow you got me there dude. We will see what its all about in about 24 hours. And i will be waiting you here. I bitched about this god forsaken game more than you can ever fucking imagine. Their card desings, the moves they did, the horrible HORRIBLE lies they said. But for one god forsaken time they are trying to do something that looks good. "LOOKS GOOD" because we dont have any fucking idea what is is all about to begin with. And look, since you think you are so clever that you know the developers bullshit, let me tell you this. At this point they made the people believe that this battle pass is gonna be better than the old rewarding system too much. For 9 months they have been hyping people up with this shit. Do you think they would wanna lie about this? How many people would leave the game and cost the company a lot of losses? Even the money hungry riot doesnt makes these moves. Be a little bit more clever, no one on right mind would hype something this much and lie about it.  That being said i will say this, so you cant come back be like " omg i was right you dumb" . WE DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BATTLE PASS. Everything i say is based on the things that companies normally would do. They might be correct might be wrong. And there was a leaked version of the battle pass about 2 months ago. On that one the paid version of the battle pass only contained costumes. And the free version had like 4k gold 2 epics, 4 legs and a couple packs here and there. Even if that was wrong which it probably was that was what they kinda thought when they started to make a battle pass. Which only means that if they make something worse than the leaked one people will be fucking furious. 
    Simply my point is, stop being a crying dumbass to any fucking news. And leave your tin foil hat somewhere to think clearly. Bitch when its needed and support when it needed. Y'all are only getting angry to any news whatsoever.

Actually, we already know many things:

tldr; Total rewards after 50 levels of the new "Reward Track" (i.e. after 4 months approx)

• 4800 gold
• 8 packs from last expansion
• 8 packs from prior expansions
• 2 legendary cards (including the free random legendary that we always receive at the start of every expansion)
• 1 normal epic card (seriously?)
• 2 tavern tickets (for duels or arena)

And yes, I know we can earn 150 gold for each extra level after level 50: an exhausting grinding at its best. Hooray! 

Finally, don't forget that we are going to get 35 extra cards at mid-expansion, HOWEVER, instead of getting them by paying 2800 gold and unlocking them through playing a pve campaign as "always"... we now have to buy even more packs!! 60 extra packs more or less to get the 35 new cards (6000 gold).

 I dont have an opinion on the mid-expansion thing honestly. If its the way you say thats absoulute garbage. However i just cannot understand people saying +50 level grind is boring/exhausting. How was winning 30 games in a day any better? Winning 30 games is literally the worst thing in possible human history. What if i just want to play a fun deck , nope you have to play a good deck to win so you can open packs you slave! At least now i can play whatever i want and get some exp.

I dont know what you guys are eating for dinner nor breakfast. But i am sure as hell you guys aint eating normal food. First of all, at this point in game you are technically not a f2p. You played the game too much to a point where you can afford everything in the game by just playing it normally. But a new player who just joined the game which was me 5 years ago, was able to get their first normal deck done in about a year. Now with the new system instead of shit like "60 goLd pEr dAy" we get LEGENDARY'S. I dont know how lucky you guys are but in this expansion i played every day opened 2 packs in 3 days almost all the time. And Right now i have 6 legendary. 2 of them was crafted by me in the beggining of the expansion. 
   And also i dont know how you guys are reading stuff, but they said you will get 150 gold for each extra level you get after level 50. Therefore you can still technically get those high gold numbers. Because remember normally in a day you can only get 160 gold on average. And its CAPPED at that number. With the new system again we dont know how much exp we get so telling anything is hard, you can get 450 gold if you play all day and also do quests and stuff. Again i am just giving an example if leveling up is easy. Back the Hearthstone was a daily chore that you had to do everyday. With the new system it feels like a thing where you just jump in play and quit without losing anything. Also the paid version of the battle pass is told to be straight ahead cosmetics. So between a p2w player and a f2p player on battlepass there wont be any difference.

About paladin, if you are talking about pen flinger ; I hate that deck and almost concede immidiately. But i majority of my paladin matchups was against pure paladin where they didnt had any board clears to stop my big minions. And i was even able to have a decent early game board. With wandmakers and such. 
   About rogues, I matched with i believe 2 rogues in my entire diamond run. One was playing stealth rogue the other was playing secret rogue. Stealth rogue was an easy win with the board clears and removals / heals i had. But secret rogue was pretty much hard. I got lucky on that one. I Ghave to admit.
    Last of all mages. Mage matchups has nothing to with your deck nor his deck. They are playing cyclone deck. Which is literally straight ahead jesus take the wheel type of decks. Sometiems they will get purely board clears, and sometimes they will get shit. Sometimes they wont have a cyclone , sometimes they will have it. So i would say i had 50/50 on the mages. And i cannot suggest anything for cyclone mages since as i said, its straight ahead luck based matchup. 

Hmm, i do wonder where did that hs replays come from. Im sorry but i made the deck, so of course i was able to play the way it meant to. I have been trying different versions of it for about a month by now. After playing a month i was able to go from diamond 5 to diamond 2 literally on stream with this deck. Im sorry that you werent able to get the fun and win rates i got, but that doesnt mean i am faking it. 

Its like saying how can someone have %65 win rate with pure paladin. Well, there was a moment i went 24-2 with pure paladin. But i am pretty sure on the sites pure paladin has a decent %50-60 win rate. Sometimes stuff goes your way sometimes it doesnt :)

So far every time i literally had fel summoner in my hand and got major stuff out of it. Nowadays silence is not existing and the only thing that actualy stops him from having his deathrattle trigger is basicly devolving missiles. Which then would a big downside for the mage since losing her only high removal would hit her hard. So as an 8-3 she either hits like a rock or spawns a very nice big demon for you. As for  Sightless Watcher i do agree it makes your synergy a little bit hard. But , this decks biggest demon summoner is fel summoner, not Pit Commander. Therefore unless its really sad an you topdecked sightless watcher, you wouldnt be really getting sightless watcher that much. But i do agree its a bad card so if you want to swap literally anything that allows you to play in early game and helps you have a little bit hand is good. Such as draws/early taunts/spells etc. 

As for a replacement for Ancient Void Hound ; its kinda hard to say. The deck really relies on this card. But i think still a imprisoned antaen can help you get the outcome. Or if you have soulogist malifica ( or whatever heck her name is ) also can help. If you have it you can also go for felosophy the card that duplicates demons in your hand. There is not a lot of big demons that go face so, if you dont have the cards i suggested even tho its a little bit shitty you can go for the soulshard lapidary i believe the name is. The card that gives you +5 attack for a soul fragment. I know its not even a synergy with the deck but if you take out ancient void hound you will lose a lot of damage in the deck. So you got a lot of damage to close.

I hope these suggestions helped you , hopefuly you will enjoy the deck :) . Good luck on the matches ! 

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WAY more enjoyable than battlegrounds IMO. The limited pool kind of nudges new players out of highly competitive play I'd imagine, but overall the concept is great and I  think it'll be better moving forward. The lack of hero powers and treasures currently available definitely limit the potential. but it's only going to get better with the full release. 

 You can like or dislike battleground and it is fine. Especially now, battleground is quite unbalance due to elementals and many people can dislike it.

But battleground is a real new game mode. Battleground is a totally new game mode, it is not a dungeon run in pvp like Duels. Calling Duels a new game mode is an heavy word, it is a fake new game mode.

 This, This was the thing i was looking in the comments. Duel's is NOT a new game mode. Its just arena with a new dress. And thats the only reason why i am dissapointed with it

Protesting in response to allegations comes off as annoying virtue signal. People should just wait for it to go through the court process. If they are proven guilty, then we can protest all we want and it would be fully justified.

I know you guys so called influencer want to spread this issue out, but this kind of action is like punishing us more than to Blizz

Hopefully you will be banned here soon. So you can talk in your gutter but please not in a serious forum. You primitive.

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That literally goes against the whole point of finding cards in packs and growing a collection. 
It's supposed to mirror actual card pack buying in real life - you don't get to give rare cards back at the shop when you open an MtG pack and demand a better choice, do you?
Same applies here. This is simply more of the usual greed from players who don't want to put the work into growing and making a colleciton.

 There is no reason for a digital card game to follow the same rules as in physical card games. Digital card games should be a natural evolution of this game genre and not an imitation.

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That's like going to a Ferrari dealer and saying "You know what, I really want a Ferrari but I cannot afford it, so can you make it like way cheaper so I can buy one?" If you cannot afford Ferrari, you go and buy a Ford. If you cannot afford entire Hearthstone collection, you go with what you can have or move to a new game.

Could Hearthstone be more affordable? Of course, always, but your request is just ridiculous.

 

 

 His request is not ridiculous. Gwent and Legends of Runeterra let you choose the cards you get from packs. Gwent does exactly what he suggests and shows three options you can pick after opening a pack. And Legends of Runeterra has both random champions in capsules and the Wild Card mechanic. Wild Cards are blank cards of any rarity that just let you choose any card of that rarity to add to your collection. Random cards obtained in capsules are occasionally upgraded into Wild Cards. And there are capsules with only Wild Cards in them. It's another way of obtaining cards that complements the usual crafting system. Why Hearthstone has to be so primitive when the competition is only evolving?

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That's like going to a Ferrari dealer and saying "You know what, I really want a Ferrari but I cannot afford it, so can you make it like way cheaper so I can buy one?" If you cannot afford Ferrari, you go and buy a Ford. If you cannot afford entire Hearthstone collection, you go with what you can have or move to a new game.

Could Hearthstone be more affordable? Of course, always, but your request is just ridiculous.

 

 

 Hey, it's just a suggestion not a request.

Also, comparing a Card Game to buying a premium sports car, now thats something i never though i'll see.

Thanks for reply :)

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Well finally. then hopefully we won't read anything more from you here soon. do not get me wrong. it's ok to complain once. But you've been doing it every day since the expansion began. every damn day I have to endure your howling here. EVERY DAY! it's time you left and looked for another community. nobody needs you here anymore.

shut your mouth, you don't speak for anyone other than yourself and nobody forces you to read his messages.
horrible way to behave towards someone who clearly is troubled, says a lot about you.

It would be cool if you finished a game and you got experience for different things that happened: #cards drawn, #minions killed, #spells played, #turns, etc on top of a flat amount of XP for winning a match. 

The battle pass xp progression draws inspiration from the likes of Fortnite, and in Fortnite it’s satisfying to know that if I am going to lose a game I will at least get experience for the things I made an effort to do (killing an enemy, reviving a teammate, how long I was alive for)

As it stands now, length of match and victory are the only factors considered I believe, and I think that could only incentivize fast aggro decks and roping. I want to believe the greater population of players would like to play meaningful games against a variety of decks.

Well, my friend, do I EVER have news for you. But you have to sit down before reading any further. It's for your own safety.

7 days from now, when you hit Level 27. Guess what you get???

An ASHES OF OUTLAND pack!!!

OMG the party you'll have if you live in a place without current COVID restrictions. Imagine how sad you'd have been if you were given, say, a Grand Tournament pack instead? That expansion SUCKED!

Personally I do live in a place where I'm not allowed to have parties, so I had to open my Outland pack in solitude. The 40 dust was a nice consolation prize though.

Enjoy dude, seriously. So awesome.

Disagree. They are rush minions if they have rush.