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    posted a message on Perfect mill rogue to counter all slow decks (mini guide)

    Nice, yeah that’s very similar to what I’m running. I haven’t put watch posts back in yet, but haven’t played a lot lately since I’m already legend. I forget what I’m running right now but I think I was messing around with different techs like flik, loatheb, glacial shards, etc.

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    posted a message on Perfect mill rogue to counter all slow decks (mini guide)

    Yeah if you’re against a lot of warlocks and priests sap is great, but haven’t seen as many recently.

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    posted a message on Perfect mill rogue to counter all slow decks (mini guide)

    Filling hand and deathrattles are really not that relavant most of the time. Battlecries are way more rampant in wild and it’s bad to sap most Battlecry minions. There are rarely times when I wish I would have sap over an eviscerate. Sure against big priest or something slow, but you are favored to win those match ups even without sap.

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    posted a message on Perfect mill rogue to counter all slow decks (mini guide)

    What's your experience with far watch post after the nerf? I took it out of my list because it seems too easily removed. Maybe it's still good enough but I'm not sure and there are plenty of other possible inclusions for mill rogue. I also have been having a hard time finding decent sap targets so I'm running eviscerates instead (since turn 5 wicked stab is often too slow, I'd rather just have evis). I also think you should really try out cutterbutter in the list. He is amazing in mill rogue for some awesome mill turns.

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    posted a message on Control is so bad in Hs atm

    I'm currently rocking control rogue lol.  C'thun rogue alive and well.  Does well against a lot of stuff in the meta

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    posted a message on Top 3 - Tavern Brawl #305
    Quote from Aazhyd_ >>

    Problem with this brawl is that before the new reward system, you'd want to get wins asap, to get more gold. That doesn't work anymore, quick kills give very low XP and you're better of playing longer games.

    What's a good deck to stall?

     

     I've had a great time with cloak of shadows, evasion, and wicked stab. you just use evasions to block all the early damage and stall until you can otk them with 5 wicked stabs (or almost otk if they have armor)

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    posted a message on Hunter has overtaken Paladin!! Tier 1
    Quote from PetiteMouche >>

    Rogue is the best class and always will be. Other classes should enjoy the show while they can. Rogue is recovering from the nerfs right now and is coming back to take over the meta.

    Content creators must be trying very hard to avoid rogue or build bad rogue decks for it to have the worst win rate of all classes.

     We are lurking in the shadows waiting to ambush you.  I'm personally doing pretty well with C'thun rogue, just figuring out how to optimize it still post-nerfs.

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    posted a message on The state of the HS community

    Speaking of people attacking people personally... You guys are proving the OP's point lol

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    posted a message on The state of the HS community
    Quote from Shadowrisen >>

     

    @Pizzacats

    In general, you seem to be a good faith poster, but the whole "if you point out that people whine, you're whining and thus nothing you say is worthwhile" thing doesn't work on any level.  Furthermore, you may not like someone being arrogant, but that doesn't mean what the person said was incorrect.

     

     

     I never discredited the content of the post.  I did point out that he was "whining about whining", but I did not in any way say that what he said was altogether untrue or incorrect.  I do believe that many of the concerns he has are, in fact, problems, but since I do not have a solution to those problems, I did not pretend to know how to address them. My response was a challenge to the nature of "how" the thread was presented rather than the content of the thread itself.  I agree in many ways that the hs community is unsatisfactory, but I did not make my comments to disagree with the OP.  I believe making people aware of their own problems is the start of a solution to the community as a whole. That can be said about exposing implicit bias in regards to racism, it could be said about various facets of religion, etc.  I by no means claim to have all the answers or be perfect, and am well aware of my personal failures and shortcomings.  I need help from others to help keep me accountable and address those things.  I responded the way I did to give the OP awareness of misinterpretation and potential holes in his thinking and to challenge them philosophically, not to disagree with what they are saying.

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    posted a message on The state of the HS community
    Quote from Titaniumxxxxx >>
    Quote from Pizzacats >>
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    Quote from Pizzacats >>

    A post which is complaining about people complaining and attacking people personally (calling them pussies) who attack people personally. Sounds like you are part of the problem.

    First of all you've missed the point entirely. 

    Second, I'm not complaining about people complaining - I'm complaining about the state of the community. I'm perfectly fine with people complaining about stuff - its good for everyone to voice their opinion and I encourage that. My point is that people constantly complain about stupid things - not to make the game better but to suit their own agendas.

    Never complained about personal insults either - I said that people take such great offence to any criticism on their statements that they immediately resort to personal insults. It's just toxic and wasn't how the core community used to be. So yeah, I'll stand by my statement of 'self entitled pussies' because I cant think of another term to describe them.

    And sure I complain about things - a lot of things but the difference between me and the self entitled crew - is that I will concede on a point I've made if there is a good enough argument against it. I don't complain about cards unless I have statistical evidence to back up that the card is OP and rarely (if ever) resort to personal insults unless someone personally attacks me first. 

    You response ignored all of the points I made and responded with a non sensical statement to attempt to portray me as a hippocrit - I feel like only one of us is part of the problem here and it isn't me!  

     Fine, you want me to prove I didn’t “miss the point”?

    1. You are indeed complaining about people complaining. The reason you said the “state of hs community” is bad is because people are whiny and self centered and won’t be happy unless they get their way. To this, you further added that it is “so annoying” and that when you got called out for whining, you said it’s okay for people to whine. What then, decides whether it is right for people to whine? It seems you placed yourself as an intellectual superior who has selfishly stated that you have the right to whine but people who “don’t get your points” don’t.

    2. Saying a community is toxic because it attacks people while at the same time attacking people just proves that you are toxic by your own definition. You immediately resorted to attacking me, for example, even though I simply made an observation and recorded that observation as a comment.

    3. Saying you are better than the “self entitled crew” because you know when to concede points is highly arrogant because other people often do the same if they are proven wrong, and it also puts you in a position where you are justifying the way that you complain which is completely subjective, so deciding that your complaining is righteous but theirs isn’t is a very “holier than thou” toxic mindset.

    4. I didn’t ignore anything. I chose not to go into a detailed response because I didn’t want to. You complaining that I didn’t is just more proof that you are toxic since I have no obligation to go beyond what I said but you want to victimize yourself saying that it’s not you who is causing problems, but everyone around you. I changed my mind because I feel you should know how ridiculous you sound.

    5. Throwing out the idea that I am part of the problem after I simply made an observation on your post is the true nonsense. What I said has absolutely no comparison to what you described. You complained about people who Whine about cards which are not proven to be good and attack people personally when they are proven wrong. I did neither of those things, so saying I’m part of the problem is just a defense mechanism and makes absolutely no sense but further proves that you are part of THIS problem which YOU stated of people who attack people personally who criticize them. Open your eyes to hypocrisy. Just because you don’t like what I said doesn’t mean it is untrue.



    Listen I'm not going to get into a detailed argument with you because you're dead set on ridiculing anything that I say, so I'll keep this as brief as possible. My overall argument has never been that people shouldn't be complaining, that's absurd and I've stated multiple times that I m perfectly fine with people complaining - its just a bit excessive right now and even when people do complain no one ever seems to agree anyways. I felt in the past things were a lot more constructive and it was genuinely fun to engage with the community for the most part.

    By your own logic I suppose you're complaining about me complaining about others complaining. What a time to be alive!

    At no point in any of my posts have I personally attacked you - if you could care to highlight exactly where I attacked you or which parts of my response offended you, that would be appreciated because I'm genuinely lost as to how you see my response as a personal attack on yourself?

    You've made multiple incorrect assumptions throughout your response and then responded to those assumptions, which is honestly ridiculous. As I stated above I've never personally attacked you, I've never suggested that anyone doesn't have a right to complain but I do, I've never suggested that my complaints should be held in a higher regard than anyone else's, I've never suggested that I'm the victim and everybody else it the problem but me - yet you've went out of your way to state that all of those are the case. Which doesn't in any way prove that you didn't "miss the point", it proves you're highly manipulative, if you ask me.

    One point I agree with though, is that - my response was arrogant when I suggested that I concede points when others don't. People do concede on things but its frustrating that its seems to happen a lot less now than in the past - its an element of the times, doesn't mean I have to like it. Nonetheless I apologise for the way I came across there as I didn't articulate myself very well.

    Honestly - I really don't want to get into a pointless debate with you. I'm never gonna agree with you because you've made far too many assumptions, so it is merely a waste of both of our time. 


    Starting a comment saying you don't want to argue when all I did was respond to your response seems arrogant once again.  The whole point of the thread was to have a discussion no? If you think you are above having an argument, the state of the community will never change. What have I said that showed I was dead set on ridiculing anything you said? I find that much of what you said is true about the hs community.  I wouldn't have said it the same way, but that doesn't matter, to each their own.  I even acknowledged that the state of the hs community was indeed a "problem" in my original post, but I don't believe there is anything to be done about it, so I swept it aside to point out hypocrisy in your post so you are more self-aware. Didn't seem to work since you also ignored most of what I said and wrote it off as an "incorrect assumption". Here is my response to your most recent response:

    1. Given that you are okay with people complaining but not excessive complaining, what amount of complaining is "excessive"? That is a very subjective answer meant to put you on a moral high ground.  If you have an objective answer for how much complaining is excessive, then I'd ask, why do you get to decide how much is considered "excessive"? I asked this question in the first detailed response, but you never answered, but really feel that you should.  You compared it to the state of the hs community in the past. Do you have proof of it being a more constructive community? I remember the community always having both a constructive and toxic side, and believe it still does.

    2. Trying to shift what I said to be "complaining about you complaining about you complaining is silly.  Complain is defined as expressing dissatisfaction or annoyance at the state of affairs or event.  You are the one dissatisfied, thus making the post.  My reason for commenting has nothing to do with me being unsatisfied, I am totally content. I truly do not care that you are complaining. I like commenting on things to contribute to a conversation, nothing to do with me being annoyed.

    3. I didn't say that you meant to personally attack me or are victimizing yourself on purpose, but the things you said made it come off that way, which is really all I'm trying to do, is make you aware of the language you are using. I have taught English, so I believe the words you choose to use are important. Your statement that what I said was nonsensical and that I was "part of the problem" came off as a personal attack because what I said was in no way related to the problems you are concerned with in your post. As for not victimizing yourself, how so? If the "state of hearthstone community" bothers you enough to make a post about it, doesn't that mean you believe yourself to be above the rest of the community and you are a victim of people's excessive complaints? I am truly curious what else it could mean to victimize yourself but to say that a community (which you are in) is toxic (or a generalized negative statement), but exclude yourself from the toxicity. 

     

    4. There is a difference between "incorrect assumptions" and unintended consequences.  Though you may not have meant that people don't have a right to complain, or that your complaints are on a higher level, the way in which you presented this discussion seemed to conclude that you do, regardless of it being true.  It might be a misunderstanding, but those are things that should be discussed if you want any positive changes.  If what you say can be interpreted as hypocrisy, then you should clarify to show that it isn't, or at least be prepared to give a defense. If you believe that me trying to get a defense out of you is manipulative, that has some merit, but it seems that you said I was being manipulative by using falsehoods, but I wasn't claiming they were true about you personally, but was making those conclusions based on what you said.  If you think my logic is flawed, then you should address that rather than say it is "incorrect" and "ridiculous".

    5. I appreciate your agreement that you came off as arrogant and are willing to apologize about it.  If you truly were an arrogant person by nature, I doubt you would have humbled yourself to do so.  I apologize if anything I said was in fact manipulative, as that was not my intention.  I enjoy having some philosophical discussions/debates, so anything I said was not meant to be an attack on you personally or manipulate others against you, but it was to challenge you to think about the implications of what you said. If you do not want to discuss this further, I won't take offense, but I still find that you are someone who deserves respect, or I wouldn't have spent as much time as I have responding to you.

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    posted a message on combo cards and hero power
    Quote from PetiteMouche >>
    Quote from 30phillosgamer >>
    Quote from PetiteMouche >>

    Because rogue has been the best class in the game for over 7 years now and doesn't need a buff.

    As a Rogue in current meta you should get to fatigue before you run out of cards in your hand, there's something wrong with your deck if you need to pass a turn to activate some combo card, play more card draw !

    I assume when you say "buy" you mean "draw". If not, I have no idea what you mean.

     Yea Rogue is the Best class xD With Lunacy Mage , paladin dominating this expansion... and Secret mage big priest jade druid in wild .. rogue has one aggro deck thats good KEKW

    You obviously don't play wild, and in standard weapon rogue beats no minion mage every time.

    Rogue is the best class and always will be. 

     Rogue doesn't even have a tier 1 deck in wild anymore, what are you talking about? Odd and kingsbane arent relevant anymore after nitroboost nerf and priest, paladin, warlock, and mage are all far superior to rogue in wild. and no, weapon rogue doesn't win every time.  It just wins a good amount of the time. YouTube and stats can easily disprove that statement.

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    posted a message on combo cards and hero power
    Quote from PetiteMouche >>

    Because rogue has been the best class in the game for over 7 years now and doesn't need a buff.

    As a Rogue in current meta you should get to fatigue before you run out of cards in your hand, there's something wrong with your deck if you need to pass a turn to activate some combo card, play more card draw !

    I assume when you say "buy" you mean "draw". If not, I have no idea what you mean.

    Edit: I misread the post when responding to this, yes they probably meant draw. 

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    posted a message on combo cards and hero power

    The solution: don’t run out of cards. Rogue has a lot of draw options for a reason: It needs cards to play other cards. If you don’t have enough cards in your hand to activate combo, it isn’t the fault of the combo mechanic, it is a fault of deck construction (or in the case of field contact/auctioneer, the way you play the cards).

    As to your idea about making the hero power a combo activator, I think it would be too strong. One of the downsides of combo cards is that you have to commit multiple cards and that’s why they have strong effects. If you only have to hero power and not spend a resource to activate it, you would be able to get a lot more value out of your cards by saving them for future turns. Not to mention it would make the card Tour Guide broken because it would act as a “double” combo activator for 2 different turns for 1 mana. I think it could be reasonable to print a card which “upgrades” your hero power to be a combo activator, because then you have to pay a resource for that luxury, but without that tax, it would just be a buff to rogues.

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    posted a message on The state of the HS community
    Quote from Titaniumxxxxx >>
    Quote from Pizzacats >>

    A post which is complaining about people complaining and attacking people personally (calling them pussies) who attack people personally. Sounds like you are part of the problem.

    First of all you've missed the point entirely. 

    Second, I'm not complaining about people complaining - I'm complaining about the state of the community. I'm perfectly fine with people complaining about stuff - its good for everyone to voice their opinion and I encourage that. My point is that people constantly complain about stupid things - not to make the game better but to suit their own agendas.

    Never complained about personal insults either - I said that people take such great offence to any criticism on their statements that they immediately resort to personal insults. It's just toxic and wasn't how the core community used to be. So yeah, I'll stand by my statement of 'self entitled pussies' because I cant think of another term to describe them.

    And sure I complain about things - a lot of things but the difference between me and the self entitled crew - is that I will concede on a point I've made if there is a good enough argument against it. I don't complain about cards unless I have statistical evidence to back up that the card is OP and rarely (if ever) resort to personal insults unless someone personally attacks me first. 

    You response ignored all of the points I made and responded with a non sensical statement to attempt to portray me as a hippocrit - I feel like only one of us is part of the problem here and it isn't me!  

     Fine, you want me to prove I didn’t “miss the point”?

    1. You are indeed complaining about people complaining. The reason you said the “state of hs community” is bad is because people are whiny and self centered and won’t be happy unless they get their way. To this, you further added that it is “so annoying” and that when you got called out for whining, you said it’s okay for people to whine. What then, decides whether it is right for people to whine? It seems you placed yourself as an intellectual superior who has selfishly stated that you have the right to whine but people who “don’t get your points” don’t.

    2. Saying a community is toxic because it attacks people while at the same time attacking people just proves that you are toxic by your own definition. You immediately resorted to attacking me, for example, even though I simply made an observation and recorded that observation as a comment.

    3. Saying you are better than the “self entitled crew” because you know when to concede points is highly arrogant because other people often do the same if they are proven wrong, and it also puts you in a position where you are justifying the way that you complain which is completely subjective, so deciding that your complaining is righteous but theirs isn’t is a very “holier than thou” toxic mindset.

    4. I didn’t ignore anything. I chose not to go into a detailed response because I didn’t want to. You complaining that I didn’t is just more proof that you are toxic since I have no obligation to go beyond what I said but you want to victimize yourself saying that it’s not you who is causing problems, but everyone around you. I changed my mind because I feel you should know how ridiculous you sound.

    5. Throwing out the idea that I am part of the problem after I simply made an observation on your post is the true nonsense. What I said has absolutely no comparison to what you described. You complained about people who Whine about cards which are not proven to be good and attack people personally when they are proven wrong. I did neither of those things, so saying I’m part of the problem is just a defense mechanism and makes absolutely no sense but further proves that you are part of THIS problem which YOU stated of people who attack people personally who criticize them. Open your eyes to hypocrisy. Just because you don’t like what I said doesn’t mean it is untrue.

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    posted a message on The state of the HS community

    A post which is complaining about people complaining and attacking people personally (calling them pussies) who attack people personally. Sounds like you are part of the problem.

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