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I haven't played HS since TESL open beta. I have no regrets as I think TESL is a far superior game, most likely being due to the fact that I'm an old-school MtG player (i.e. I love TESL's 5-color MtGesque theme).  But I'm not here to bash HS, rather I am curious to hear from the players who have continued to play both: how do they currently compare?

 Shallow Gravedigger wants a word with you. 

I haven't played HS since TESL open beta. I have no regrets as I think TESL is a far superior game, most likely being due to the fact that I'm an old-school MtG player (i.e. I love TESL's 5-color MtGesque theme).  But I'm not here to bash HS, rather I am curious to hear from the players who have continued to play both: how do they currently compare?

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gwent and tesl won't last a year , failures just like duelyst and faeria .

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I UNINSTALLED THAT HORRIBLE GAME IN 2 HOURS .

played hearthstone for 3 years , Yugioh since the 90s . 

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So many of these points are just unsound. The only reason hearthstone may be more expensive is because it absolutely dominates the market, so they don't need to give a bunch of handouts to try and entice a playerbase. As to why it dominates, there are several reasons. For one, a  simple, clean and easy to use interface and graphics makes it so much more appealing than the drab ESL or cringely overdone Shadowverse. As far as deck/archetype variety, so many people don't seem to understand that a higher competitive level means an increasingly narrow meta in any game. Comparing the meta of a game several years old to one just a few months in is just unfair, so don't even bother going there.

Lastly, and this is entirely my own point, Hearthstone doesn't suffer from any overarching gimmicks. That's right, eventually you'll find that mechanics like runes and lanes will ultimately only hurt the game. Why? Because these mechanics end up just being a crutch for balancing rather than an actually interesting tool. In HS, if the balance between archetypes needs adjusting, they just need to release cards of an appropriate power level, there's no added layer to the games balance, it's simple, straight forward and easy to both implement and understand. If we take Shadowverse as an example again, the evolve mechanic doesn't actually add much to the game itself, you still need to play cards for a cost and try to gain the upper hand over the opponent through either tempo or value. Although, SV is a particularly bad example of this, as it's fairly obvious the mechanic was added more for double "sexy" pics rather than any meaningful interaction.

The only other online CCG worth someones time over HS is Faeria, because it genuinely provides a more in-depth strategic approach to card games, where actual thinking takes place. All the other CCG's out there offer hardly anything different to HS, without nearly half the professional polish Hearthstone provides. My advice to anyone, if you can't have fun playing hearthstone then these other games won't prove any less frustrating. So don't come here, blatantly trying to advertise an inferior and lackluster alternative and then make it out as if you're some enlightened one whose seen the mtg knock-off light

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I did not read anything but dear OP:

Shut the fuck off and play what you want. This is a heartstone forum and Nobody is intetested in your stupid game advertisment.

 

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Been playing this for about 5 days. First impressions: it takes itself way too seriously and the cards lack character (having to mouse over each one to see what it does, whereas in Hearthstone each card is instantly recognisable from its summon audio). Only played against the AI so far but it seems face is even more the place here?

I'll stick with it though, but from first impressions I thought Faeria was better (although it runs like a pig on my laptop so I haven't played it much really).

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ESL is a pale reskin of Hearthstone with an Elder Scrolls skin. While Elder Scrolls universe is fun the game itself is Hearthstone with new problems and no new solution. Aggro is extremely favoured by the combat mechanics, the lack of hero power/card draw and the double board which makes it possible to ignore taunt minions and go face anyway. 

Overall a very poor ersatz of a card game. Oh, did I mention to talk about randomness deciding games ?

Source : I was legend ranked in the first 2 seasons of ESL then stopped because might as well play hearsthone unless you like Elder Scrolls universe more then Warcraft universe lol. And double board is dumb as shit. 

I rate Hearthstone higher even witht he cancer pirate and jade meta :(

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I played ESL when it was first out (open beta after reset). I was legend in the first 2 seasons then I stopped. Tbh I don't know how it is now but at the time it was more aggro then hearthstone. The game mechanics definitly favor aggro as well. 

The "double" class concept is fun. The lack of heropower hurts the game imo (defensive hero powers would helped control tremendously). 

It's very tempo orientated, on curve play. The attacker chooses the attacks same as HS and there is a lot of randomness. Also you can't answer your opponent's plays. 

At the end of the day I would call it "worse hearthstone with cool elder scrolls re-skin"

 Here's why TESL is better than HS in every possible way

• Actual meta diversity
• Rune system and prophecy cards
• More depth through items, support cards, neutral spells, dual color system, dual lane system
• Less RNG, less bullshit
• No imbalanced heropower
• No pirates or shamans ;)
• The devs actually give two fucks about the game, don't need 6 months to get shit done
• Really good game balance, very few cards which might need a nerf. Merric and Atromancer come to mind but that's about it

 

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Game officially launched. 

Your first live match awaits: The Elder Scrolls: Legends is now officially launched on PC! This game update also introduces an option to pre-order our first Story, The Fall of the Dark Brotherhood, a new type of downloadable content featuring a standalone campaign and 40 new cards. We will be announcing these major milestones and more in full detail on the Legends website tomorrow but wanted to offer the very first look to our dedicated Beta players as Legends launches.

New expansion coming. New Story: The Fall of the Dark Brotherhood The first Story, The Fall of the Dark Brotherhood, is now available for pre-order. This new content will be released on April 5.

https://legends.bethesda.net/articles/game-update-1621-patch-notes



If anyone pre-orders, please PM me the ESO Mount code. Will be happy to trade/buy. Thanks. <3

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I haven't played HS since TESL open beta. I have no regrets as I think TESL is a far superior game, most likely being due to the fact that I'm an old-school MtG player (i.e. I love TESL's 5-color MtGesque theme).  But I'm not here to bash HS, rather I am curious to hear from the players who have continued to play both: how do they currently compare?

There are tons of other exciting things you can do in Legends.  The game is balanced enough that any well built deck can succeed.  Case in point:

The best thing about that game IS the rune system. If you are getting snowballed you have a decent draw and can even get stuff played that turn AND set off battlecries in the same action. Its superior to hearthstone in this respect. I personally don't enjoy the lane system much and one lane always having stealth limits design of cards in a way that they can't have too powerful of effects for the cost.

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im gonna say tesl is not a good game. i played it during the beta during my progress i actually like the game until one fucking thing made me quit the game forever and that was the prophecy mechanic, its like destiny draw from yugioh. a draw that can destroy a winning game. ive been in alots of situations where i was fucking winning. i needed 8 games to reach legend, 6 out of 8 games, i lost because of my opponents prophecy activated and most of my opponents were at critical health. pure shit mechanic.

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gwent and tesl won't last a year , failures just like duelyst and faeria .

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Not sure if I can ask this here but here it goes: I recently started Legends and I'm liking it a lot thus far. Does anyone know if there is a site similar to Hearthpwn but for Legends?

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I'm just going to say that both games seem to be well worth it right now, and even if you don't like ESL, you should at least hope it thrives for the sake of Blizzard treating you better :P

Heroes of Skyrim did a good job to the game for me. Asides from that BS Echo of Akatosh, things have been really interesting over there.

Also, you get one free deck with a free legendary, and can buy others for 500 gold (yes, with epics and rares, dustable if you already have the cards). And during the first week, the daily quest yielded 3 packs of the new expansion.

I wouldn't go as far as saying it is outright better than HS though. I see more potential because it hasn't deteriorated over the years with unnerfed cards like HS, but both are fun in their own way. Depends on how much you want to think too. RNG over there can fuck you up as well, and aggro is also quite rampant there, even if it can very well get punished by the rune system.

To me HS's charm is its whackiness and how unpredictable games could get if people had any balls to try new things. But for the many of you who complain about non-draw related RNG non-stop, I say give ESL a try. Much less randomness there asides from the mandatory card draw.

ESL's advantage is its age, and the ability to learn from Blizzard's past mistakes to catch up. New players in HS who don't feel like dumping a lot of money or grinding their ass off might give ESL a try with much less hesitation, at least now while there is relatively little content.

HS's advantage is Blizzard's reputation, the cartoony charm, the unpredictability and the speed. Luckily for us, new competition also means Blizzard has been improving on their interaction with the community and on their let-it-wither-for-months stance.

I'm just going to say that both games seem to be well worth it right now, and even if you don't like ESL, you should at least hope it thrives for the sake of Blizzard treating you better :P

We're giving away a huge Legends bundle, would be great for a new player!

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70 million people cant be wrong :^)