Hearthpwn

Now THAT is a really good list

Im afraid it cant win against pirate warrior or face hunter tho

That's really smart

love it !

you clearly are obsessed by other's ego but I think the problem here is yours buddy :) 

here you go for your actual evidence :

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you are the inferior deck

Imagine having such a fragile ego that you get personaly offended when opinions of others on cards don't match your own.

Or having such a fragile ego that you had to answer him just because you instantly feel attacked. Go to the salt thread if you can't see further than control warrior and/or you didn't like the card because you can't think about anything else to at least making him work.

Me: Card is bad

Seba: OmG gO tO tHe SaLt ThReAd CONTROL WARRIOR PLAYER!

Hearthpwn has turned into a forest of fragile egos. I'm sorry that illiteracy kept you away from understanding basic forum interaction and what I was saying. I never said that I can't find a home for the card. Invoke warrior! There, home found. I'm saying that what is keeping it from being good is a currently much more superior hero/deck.

1: You did not offended anybody, we are just pissed off by how dumb and unpleasant you are

2: aggro warrior got a better winrate than control warrior , so stop embarrassing yourself with your "superior deck" bullshit

you are the inferior deck

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Unfortunately won't see any play outside of niche decks because Boom is simply the better hero card.

 Are you being serious  or is this satire? One is a control hero, one is an aggro. They won't compete for slots in the least bit. 

One is a top tier hero in a deck that has been top tier since the hero's inception.

Other is a 7 cost aggro hero in the exact same class.

Galakrond is much weaker than Boom. Unless it gets busted support it won't overthrow control warrior. Unless you wish to cripple yourself on purpose there is no reason to run an inferior deck.

 you don't understand shit about the game don't you

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Couldn't care less about this expansion.  Every single expansion before there were at least 1 legendary that I really wanted.  This one has zero that I'm interested in.  No interest at all

 I guess im a part of the problem, but why the fck are you even responding to him ? 

He do not raise any debate, he do not ask for any advises, he just shit on everything like the spoiled 13 yo brat he is

Best thing to do is to stop giving him attention

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Damn you warriors, I am not willing to play a 40 minutes game and I am not going to read a 40 minute wall of text either.

 Wish I could like twice

When the CV use shield slam against your blink fox and you are like "yaay ! One big removal gone on a 3/3" and then he proceed to never run out of removals...

You forgot to mention -  

They started doing card buffs

They improved quests 

They started adding back cards from Wild

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Ah the obligatory “hearthstone is greedy,” thread.  Alright let’s lay this out here again.

- Generally you go into business to make money.  That is the overall goal of this game, to make money so it can keep running and making money.  If it no longer makes money, we don’t get to play anymore.

-this game is super easy to do F2P.  You can easily get 7000+ gold between expansions by doing nothing but your daily quests.  By winning 9 games a day, just 9, you get an additional 3600 gold in that same timeframe.  If you win 30 games a day which is the max reward I believe,  that’s actually 12000 more gold.  So with minimal effort you can get 10,600 gold every expansion and 19,000 with maximum effort.  In other words you can get 106 to 190 packs FOR FREE just by playing the game.  If you hit rank 5 every month you net enough dust to make a free legendary every expansion as well.  This is of course not counting all the free stuff they give away.  That’s a decent enough amount to maintain a solid collection.

-To top this off there are 2 legendaries that give you a combined 20+ decks to play that are decently strong enough to get you wins without you even needing to invest in a deck.

Hearthstone devs have gone to great lengths these last couple years to make this game easier to play for free and people still whine about it.  They removed all quests that gave less than 50 gold and recently made all quests easier to complete.  They made it so duplicate legendaries don’t happen.  They guarantee a legendary in the first 10 packs of every expansion.  They give away at least 1 legendary every expansions, usually more.  I don’t know what more you people want.

 The thread was not a "hearthstone is greedy" thread. He made several points, including a good amount of praise, but you see one attack and you get defensive. This is not the way to have a discussion. You could have said that you don't agree and this is why, but instead you speak down on him. 

It is not a controversial thought to say HS is expensive. In any case, HS is not cheap. It either takes money, or time, in order to keep up. You're 100% right that it's possible to be F2P. It just requires a good amount of time. A newcomer cannot catch up without, I daresay, either a huge time investment or spending perhaps 50 bucks for each expansion in the rotation. 

Btw, your example of 9 games a day is not trivial. Keeping up 9 games a day everyday is something most casual players just can't maintain. Assuming a game is 6 minutes (it can be shorter, and it could be MUCH longer) you're already looking at 54 minutes. You're asking for someone to invest almost, and most likely, more than an hour EVERY DAY to keep up. Just doing daily quests for 7000 gold per expansion is 70 packs. I would consider that bare minimum to keep up. Bare minimum is DAILY commitment to play a game. Yes, maybe just one game a day, and yes, most people on this forum easily hit that, but just as a general rule, I like games where I can pick up and put down.

I don't think Blizzard is being greedy per se. They are a business. Their system works to maximize profit through a balance of retaining as many players as possible, and making the players pay as much as possible. After all, the money they get off players is the number of players multiplied by the average money they spend. By their estimation, that balance happens to land us where we are, where some players leave due to inability to keep up, but the existing players make up for those lost numbers by paying what they do (on average).

I'll end on the suggestion to try refraining from ad hominem arguments.

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Ah the obligatory “hearthstone is greedy,” thread.  Alright let’s lay this out here again.

- Generally you go into business to make money.  That is the overall goal of this game, to make money so it can keep running and making money.  If it no longer makes money, we don’t get to play anymore.

-this game is super easy to do F2P.  You can easily get 7000+ gold between expansions by doing nothing but your daily quests.  By winning 9 games a day, just 9, you get an additional 3600 gold in that same timeframe.  If you win 30 games a day which is the max reward I believe,  that’s actually 12000 more gold.  So with minimal effort you can get 10,600 gold every expansion and 19,000 with maximum effort.  In other words you can get 106 to 190 packs FOR FREE just by playing the game.  If you hit rank 5 every month you net enough dust to make a free legendary every expansion as well.  This is of course not counting all the free stuff they give away.  That’s a decent enough amount to maintain a solid collection.

-To top this off there are 2 legendaries that give you a combined 20+ decks to play that are decently strong enough to get you wins without you even needing to invest in a deck.

Hearthstone devs have gone to great lengths these last couple years to make this game easier to play for free and people still whine about it.  They removed all quests that gave less than 50 gold and recently made all quests easier to complete.  They made it so duplicate legendaries don’t happen.  They guarantee a legendary in the first 10 packs of every expansion.  They give away at least 1 legendary every expansions, usually more.  I don’t know what more you people want.

 30 wins a day, yes, such minimal effort XD

Greetings travelers,

Just wanted to share some thoughts on the HearthStone experience and where I think Blizz won & lost fans. I've been playing since the days of the first expansions and since before they had the "Standard/Wild" formats and I've played as a strict f2p player as well as spent plenty of dough on Blizzard.

I've seen Blizzard make incredible strides of positive growth to the truly great game that is HS but there is still plenty that leaves me scratching my head.

The Good:

• awesome cards/effects/strategies that create new meta-games **almost** every new expansion
• well thought out transition to a "rotation cycle" when introducing the new formats with the Old Gods expansion
• random generosity for the players (free content/packs for players) which is always appreciated
• unique hero system that allows for variety of play styles

The Neutral:

• RNG- this is obviously a huge part of HS and although RNG makes for some incredibly entertaining scenarios & highlights I feel that those moments are outnumbered by the amount of times an inferior player prevails simply due to RNG. Yes, I understand you can't escape RNG in a card game, but I think there's very good RNG design that involves high skill decision making (trading with Dr. 7 boom-bots) and poor RNG design (Yogg pre-patch) that allows a player to play sub-optimally and still have a *feasible* chance at victory.
• although having a variety of heroes allows for good play variety- there's not much room for variety within each class. For example, maybe we get a great control card for a Hunter that seems like a great card but doesn't fit well because the class is primarily used for 1 or 2 play styles. This makes those cool cards a bit obsolete.

The Bad:

• despite some random acts of generosity in the form of free stuff- Blizzard is greedy af about their content. As a business they have every right to do things how they want, I just think it's a sad truth that Blizzard doesn't care too much about the content & gaming community so long as they are bringing in good return on their product$.
• lack of mid-range meta- how many TOP tier mid range decks have existed in HS competitive play? Comparatively low to aggro and control decks in my opinion. I think mid-range/tempo decks are key to keeping control/aggro in check but since you often see "threat removals" cost less than threats themselves, this makes it hard (not impossible) to play tempo decks and have success doing so.

TL : DR Hearthstone is a really solid game and have given me some really fun times, climbing the ranks, playing whacky decks in casual or wild formats and single player content is also pretty entertaining. However, there's a lot of things that HS could do to improve and it's interesting to think of what the game would look like if they did things differently.

Thanks for reading! Fee free to share why you agree or disagree, would love to hear some thoughts.

Flyfish wins it for me. The balloons and helplessness as he floats over Azeroth is just bonus points.

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How can you NOT vote for whelp, he is so damn fat he literally just lies on his back and cant get up HE PROBABLY CANT EVEN FLY 

Yea but none of that is even cute tho

 Yeah you probably are one of those guys who find Azure Explorer cute, absolutely disgusting

There is obviously synergy between the two, but that does not come without a cost. So let's say you do merge the two ideas. You are going to have to cut a lot of the value generating minions or your tempo based battlecry minions in order to make room for the invoke stuff. So you will either be cutting out your late game value generation, or your late game burst options via those battlecry damage minions. 

Lets say you cut the value and go all in on tempo. You're probably going to do very well with the board leading up to your massive galakrond turn. And yes if the 4 8/8s don't get wiped out that is probably the win. But if this fails, the deck has absolutely zero gas. 

Now let's say you cut your tempo, mutates, direct damage battlecry minions. You'll have a much better time again control, but your aggro matchup is going to become severely worse, and your burst reach will be much lower.

Dont get me wrong, I am no psychic. There may be some perfect balance of both that leads to some insane deck, but I feel people forget how small 30 card decks really are. There are going to be a TON of enticing cards to put into this galakrond hybrid shaman deck, and you won't even come close to fitting them all in.

Free refill after The Forest's Aid? Don't mind if I do!

It's life Firefly, which was soooo good in tempo rogue, and while you lose the extra health, which is revelvant, getting an extra token for Cleef and Questing shenanigans seems legit right away.  Solid 1 drop... if I were the other classes I'd be a bit scared.  Might even be good enough for Wild, one of the best commons in the set.

isn't this just completely broken? you play this on three going second on their 3-drop and its already massive.