Hearthpwn

Yeah. I'm really looking forward to the new single-player campaign-like content. That'll be pretty awesome if it turns out right. Considering there's only three modes to play right now, I'm glad they're adding a single-player feature. Excited to see what rewards come of it as well.

The concept is interesting, and it got me thinking about how you could set something up like this using Duplicate. Maybe something like

Turn 10: Archmage Antonidas, Duplicate. You get 1 fireball from this, and how the opponent responds will make or break the combo. If he removes Antonidas then you get two more, which is not bad but means the end of the combo unless you have another Duplicate in hand. 

Turn 11: 2x Sorcerer's Apprentice, the fireball from turn 10 (which costs 2 mana now), and two more free fireballs (also 2 mana each) from Antonidas. You are really hoping the opponent removes one of the apprentices, if that happens then its GG to him. If he removes Antonidas the combo is broken, but at least you would have done 18 pts of damage, with two more Antonidas in hand.

Turn 12 depending on what your opponent did: If he removed one of your apprentices, then drop the 2 Apprentices you got from Duplicate, and spam 1 mana fireballs. You should have 6, which should end the game. If he removed both your apprentices then just drop the 2 Apprentices you got from Duplicate, and you should be able to do 18 pts of damage again.

Of course this is not foolproof (e.g. Hex, Polymorph, Leeroy+kill a whelp, silence), but the setup is a lot less complex than Miracle and requires only 4 cards (Antonidas, 2x Apprentice, Duplicate).

The idea is to pressure the Druid enough with big cards that they're forced to get rid of the combo if they draw into a dead hand. Druids tend to have problems dealing with big cards in general because their best bet would be to burn Keeper, Wrath, and Swipe. Once they're against the rope without any of those three cards or minions on the field to back up their draws, they're in trouble because they'll constantly feed minions into your own spells and play against your tempo.

Unlike Miracle Rogue, who can counter aggression with even more reckless plays to speed up the game for their win condition, Druid aren't able to bring out such a high amount of draw power and threat. If any analogy was to be made for perspective, Rogue is the one that beats you in a race by sprinting, Druid tries to extend the game into a marathon where you'll eventually lag behind (aka lose pressure), then they're free to steadily draw their win condition and finish you off. If you can keep even with a Druid, they'll draw into less than favorable cards at some point and when they break apart pieces of their Savage+FoN combo, that's when you know you'll have a chance to take the lead. 

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I think *technically* Explosive Trap triggers before you attack. The "while attacking" part of the Longbow refers to the damage you take from attacking an enemy minion. When you do that, you take damage at exactly the same time they do...while you are attacking. When you trigger a secret/trap, it triggers before you attack.

I agree that this is a very upsetting and misleading (and very unique and rare) scenario, but I'm willing to bet that this is why you still took the damage.

That's a good argument. But, the immunity block appears not just at the point of contact with a character, but throughout the entire swinging process. Seeing the immunity block over your portrait yet still getting hit for 2 damage is rather conflicting.

Your explanation is sound, and it is probably why I took the damage. But surely, that technicality must need more clarification than simply saying "You are immune while attacking", because thanks to secrets, there's clearly more than one phase in the attacking process.

Secrets are HS's instants, they resolve before whatever action proc'd them (most of the time).

It technically makes sense why you lost, though I agree it is frustrating.

I get that. But follow with me on this one; I've underlined the key terms that are written on the cards. The trap can only trigger when the hero is being attacked. If the hero is being attacked, that means I'm attacking. If I'm attacking (with the weapon), that means I'm immune, since "You hero is Immune while attacking". No immunity means I'm not attacking, which means the hero isn't being attacked, which means the trap shouldn't proc. Its as simple as that.

Ok, so I was playing a mid-range control Hunter deck right now, and the craziest thing happened. Here we go:

I was playing against a Hunter. He got me down to 1 health and played a secret. He is at 5 health and I have a Gladiator's Longbow in my hand. I play the weapon and go for the kill, but an Explosive Trap triggers, deals 2 damage to my hero, and I lose the game.

Now, I am sorry, but this is complete BULLSHIT. The card clearly says "You hero is Immune while attacking"! Hell, the immunity ice block overlay thingy appeared on my hero's portrait yet the 2 damage still manages to get through! Sure, I know the weapon was made with Immunity when attacking a minion as its main purpose/use, but the bottom line is, if it says you are immune while attacking, you should be immune while attacking!

The wording of the card should be altered, or the immunity must apply under all circumstances while the hero is in the attacking process. Either way, this needs a fix ASAP!

Arena is going to be really fun with some of these cards. Anub'ar Ambusher, Duplicate, Dark Cultist, Death's Bite, and Poison Seeds are all going to be fun cards to play with.

I have to say, while the idea of some new cards coming in is very exciting, I don't think there are enough of them to SERIOUSLY change what's being played now. With that said, I'm anticipating the single player stuff. Not that I don't enjoy getting knocked around in constructed and such, but it'll be interesting to see what they do with the AI bosses since balance isn't a huge issue. 

I can't call this the worst, but it was one of the strangest opening turns I've seen. I was taking my zoo deck (whatever, I like it for quick games...don't judge me) for a spin last night and was matched up with a Mage that played two Wisps (one was golden!..WTF?), Mirror Image, and a Goldshire Footman (after playing the Coin).

I was so confused. I really wanted to see where this was going, but then he/she conceded on turn 3. I'll take the win, but I was very curious about his/her plan for the game.

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True, but is it worth doing 3 damage to yourself for? I think it's a terrible card tbh. And my Warlock deck beats zoo most times. It's more on the 'handlock' side I guess, but my own set up. I think people play zoo these days thinking they'll get instant wins without any effort. 

Without meaning any disrespect, if you don't think Flame Imp is good value, then you probably don't understand Aggro decks in general.  They're all about putting as much early pressure on the opponent as possible.  The plan is to dish out damage so fast that your own life total is irrelevant.

I don't play aggro admittedly, but I have never had any problems dealing with a flame imp either. They may get to use it once, but it's already damaged them as much as me. I beat zoo 8/10 with either Druid or Paladin, or even my own hand-lock style Warlock. 

Flame imp is not in question here anyway, it's Pit lord, and I say it's a waste, DE it.