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    posted a message on Faster than [Fast legend dragon warr]

    you still using leeroy? I dropped him for rafaam as it seemed more useful.

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    posted a message on Ysera or Ragnaros?d raf
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    Right now in standard Ragnaros is better than Ysera. If the meta ever slows down, Ysera will be better.

    In wild, which is a bit heavier and slower atm, Ysera is a fine choice.

     

     I can see that being the case, i just am not entirely sure because despite Ysera costing 1 more mana, she almost guarentees her survival with her extremely high health (turn 4 ysera druid anyone? XD it would be rare but doable) so you would almost always get her insane value twice as opposed to ragnaros' almost guarenteed only one use of his ability
     she's only used in proper slow control decks, which means top end ladder play and wild... the bottom end of the ladder is all zoolock, mid hunter, mid shaman and dragon warrior.... If you plan on playing a deck that uses her than maybe, but I got her in a pack the other day and D/E'd right away as she will not see any play from me for months due to limited amount of cards I have right now. Like the guys said above, the meta is not slow enough for her... however she may have a place in some control decks, I know nothing about those decks though so can't help any more on that.

    Ragnaros see's play in a lot of tops decks, both fast and slow... one of the best legendaries you can craft for the current meta (which is going to be here till at least till old gods rotates out which is 2018 or something) I actually D/E'd Ysera to get Ragnaros actually come to think of, also a gold malygos as 1600 dust off one card is too attractive to a new player.
     Thank you for actually explaining it to me, I understand it now a bit better, and yeah if I get a gold legendary that isn't n'zoth or something I am hitting that disenchanted instantly, Malygos would be gone immediately
     No problem, glad I can help in some way.

    Gold N'zoth is my favourite card as well, it's so cool with the storm and shit :)

    Only cards I have D/E'd that might come back to bite me are archmage antionidas and tirion fording... I currently don't play mage or pally though and needed cards for warrior as I am really enjoying all warrior has to offer right now.. you can't go wrong with cards like ragnaros and grommash hellscream right now IMO... the more useful control cards are stuff like n'zoth, yogg-saron, alexstraza seems to be decent.. theres a lot actually. whenever I look at a control deck it seems to have around 8-10 legendaries, then the rest are normally complied of purples and blues with a couple of the free cards in there if you're lucky.

    with this being the case if you don't have access to a lot of these cards, you are probably better off going the mid range route or something else that isn't too expensive... dragon warrior is a perfect mid cost deck IMO as it allows you to play a few legendaries, but the rest of the deck is not too expensive, it's possible to do it with finley, ragnaros and grommash, the rest of the cards are cheap or from adventures.. it gets stomped by reno and good control decks played right, you can beat both of these still though if you learn the deck and don't get a totally bum hand.

    If I were you I'd make a mid hunter and a mid/tempo dragon warrior, maybe a zoo as well. between them you can get up as far as the control wall, then you'll probably need to add a control deck to your roster from what I'm lead to believe.

    I've only been playing the game since the end of last season myself though and my highest rank so far is 15 (albeit that was with a homebrew mage deck, fresh out the gates.. I could have probably done better with a more capable deck had I put the practice in with it.. tempo mage is pretty easy to play though) happy to share what I have picked up, feel free to add me if you are EU as well. I hope to place at least rank 10 for my 2nd season, then 5 in season 3. If I can do better than this, then great, but I'm just setting realistic goals.
     Could Dragon Warrior be done without Finley? i Disenchanted him because i fail to see when he would really be useful. I was thinking of a Dragon Warrior with Emperor Thaurissan, Nefarian, and Ragnaros or whichever other legendary i decide to craft (i know Grommash is a big part of it but i am not crafting a legendary for a deck i don't even know if i will like)
    I already have a zoolock and as for midrange hunter, i find that i just don't really enjoy the deck (my friend was kind enough to allow me to play his) and i already have a semi aggro semi midrange totem shaman as well as a token druid and a c'thun druid
     I guess so, you'd just be lacking in the option to change your power to suit the situation.. I don't see why you couldn't do it without him though, the deck would still work.
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    posted a message on Legend#1 Yogg Control
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    that doesnt exist :P

     ok yeah, my bad.. it's 4 damage. It was still a pretty sweet gift from Malkorok. I told him the other guy was dissin' the war chief, he wasn't having it.
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    posted a message on Dragon 70% win rate from rank 4
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    This deck is all about tempo, so it definitely is hard to beat mid range shaman and hunter without your best 2 drops. 

    If that happens, you can't be too greedy with your cards. Use blood to ichor, ravaging ghoul, elites, whatever you can to stay in it. You may need to win by a sudden tempo swing with axe and champ later in the game and then close out with your big guys. 

     arch thief rafaam can help with the mirror artifact on turn 10, you get a board full of 3/3 bodies, as well as rafaam. it can be enough to tip the scales and it;s not expected at all. check out my most recent dragon warrior deck.. it;s the same as this but 1 lees kron elite and rafaam in his place. you can use fierce monkeys as well if you feel the need for an earlier taunt that isn't reliant on an activator.. I don't find it all that useful against quick decks though.
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    posted a message on Brann's Barn (Animal Farm 3.0)

    I have sea giants and doomguards for tech choices as well. I probably should have added at least 1 sea giant to this as it's in anticipation of fast decks.

    would probably tech out alchemist for a sea giant in this version.. then the control version would see the 2nd knife thrower, 2 doomguard and mortal coil with the alchemist instead of jenkins, soulfire sea giant.

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    posted a message on How To Use Card Tooltips And Images On HearthPwn

    I thought you meant linking decks to the forum.. you can use Inkeeper for that!

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    posted a message on Ysera or Ragnaros?d raf
    Quote from brilliant_gnome >>
    Quote from Deck_Fiend >>
    Quote from Linkitylinklink >>
    Quote from brilliant_gnome >>

     

    Right now in standard Ragnaros is better than Ysera. If the meta ever slows down, Ysera will be better.

    In wild, which is a bit heavier and slower atm, Ysera is a fine choice.

     

     I can see that being the case, i just am not entirely sure because despite Ysera costing 1 more mana, she almost guarentees her survival with her extremely high health (turn 4 ysera druid anyone? XD it would be rare but doable) so you would almost always get her insane value twice as opposed to ragnaros' almost guarenteed only one use of his ability
     she's only used in proper slow control decks, which means top end ladder play and wild... the bottom end of the ladder is all zoolock, mid hunter, mid shaman and dragon warrior.... If you plan on playing a deck that uses her than maybe, but I got her in a pack the other day and D/E'd right away as she will not see any play from me for months due to limited amount of cards I have right now. Like the guys said above, the meta is not slow enough for her... however she may have a place in some control decks, I know nothing about those decks though so can't help any more on that.

    Ragnaros see's play in a lot of tops decks, both fast and slow... one of the best legendaries you can craft for the current meta (which is going to be here till at least till old gods rotates out which is 2018 or something) I actually D/E'd Ysera to get Ragnaros actually come to think of, also a gold malygos as 1600 dust off one card is too attractive to a new player.
     You'll find more control decks at the bottom end of the latter than at the top. Right now the snowball decks are the best allround decks, and that is what people play at the most competitive levels.
     
     I just heard that you get more control vs control play at higher ranks, so it was almost needed at some point to play control or just get lucky/be amazing with zoo or something. if you don't understand those control decks, you won't beat them with something like zoo though IMO as there are so many clears and things you need to bait out before you can really commit... I'd like to get a control deck in the coming weeks from buying packs and dusting most of them, will probably be next season realistically now, but even if just to understand what I'm facing better... in an ideal world I'd like to have every deck in the meta, just to learn what makes them tick!

    (only started playing last season though dude... I gotta start somewhere.. ha ha)
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    posted a message on Ysera or Ragnaros?d raf
    Quote from Linkitylinklink >>
    Quote from Deck_Fiend >>
    Quote from Linkitylinklink >>
    Quote from brilliant_gnome >>

     

    Right now in standard Ragnaros is better than Ysera. If the meta ever slows down, Ysera will be better.

    In wild, which is a bit heavier and slower atm, Ysera is a fine choice.

     

     I can see that being the case, i just am not entirely sure because despite Ysera costing 1 more mana, she almost guarentees her survival with her extremely high health (turn 4 ysera druid anyone? XD it would be rare but doable) so you would almost always get her insane value twice as opposed to ragnaros' almost guarenteed only one use of his ability
     she's only used in proper slow control decks, which means top end ladder play and wild... the bottom end of the ladder is all zoolock, mid hunter, mid shaman and dragon warrior.... If you plan on playing a deck that uses her than maybe, but I got her in a pack the other day and D/E'd right away as she will not see any play from me for months due to limited amount of cards I have right now. Like the guys said above, the meta is not slow enough for her... however she may have a place in some control decks, I know nothing about those decks though so can't help any more on that.

    Ragnaros see's play in a lot of tops decks, both fast and slow... one of the best legendaries you can craft for the current meta (which is going to be here till at least till old gods rotates out which is 2018 or something) I actually D/E'd Ysera to get Ragnaros actually come to think of, also a gold malygos as 1600 dust off one card is too attractive to a new player.
     Thank you for actually explaining it to me, I understand it now a bit better, and yeah if I get a gold legendary that isn't n'zoth or something I am hitting that disenchanted instantly, Malygos would be gone immediately
     No problem, glad I can help in some way.

    Gold N'zoth is my favourite card as well, it's so cool with the storm and shit :)

    Only cards I have D/E'd that might come back to bite me are archmage antionidas and tirion fording... I currently don't play mage or pally though and needed cards for warrior as I am really enjoying all warrior has to offer right now.. you can't go wrong with cards like ragnaros and grommash hellscream right now IMO... the more useful control cards are stuff like n'zoth, yogg-saron, alexstraza seems to be decent.. theres a lot actually. whenever I look at a control deck it seems to have around 8-10 legendaries, then the rest are normally complied of purples and blues with a couple of the free cards in there if you're lucky.

    with this being the case if you don't have access to a lot of these cards, you are probably better off going the mid range route or something else that isn't too expensive... dragon warrior is a perfect mid cost deck IMO as it allows you to play a few legendaries, but the rest of the deck is not too expensive, it's possible to do it with finley, ragnaros and grommash, the rest of the cards are cheap or from adventures.. it gets stomped by reno and good control decks played right, you can beat both of these still though if you learn the deck and don't get a totally bum hand.

    If I were you I'd make a mid hunter and a mid/tempo dragon warrior, maybe a zoo as well. between them you can get up as far as the control wall, then you'll probably need to add a control deck to your roster from what I'm lead to believe.

    I've only been playing the game since the end of last season myself though and my highest rank so far is 15 (albeit that was with a homebrew mage deck, fresh out the gates.. I could have probably done better with a more capable deck had I put the practice in with it.. tempo mage is pretty easy to play though) happy to share what I have picked up, feel free to add me if you are EU as well. I hope to place at least rank 10 for my 2nd season, then 5 in season 3. If I can do better than this, then great, but I'm just setting realistic goals.
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    posted a message on One Night in Karazhan - A Hearthstone Adventure
    Quote from Johnny_Cr >>

    Well, in the last adventures you had to buy the whole adventure (real money) to receive the card back. If you have bought the whole adventure every wing will be accessable as soon it is released. So there was no way to get the adventure's card back by only paying with gold.

     yes, this is what I assumed would be the case, you have to buy it in week one to get the card back, which we probably will get at the end of the week or something. I hope we don't have to wait till the end of the 4 wings to get the card back if we have to pay for it within the first week, that would just be completely backwards... if we have to buy all 4 wings in first week of sale of wing one, we should get the cardback as soon as the offer ends IMO.
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    posted a message on Legend#1 Yogg Control
    Quote from TTaM >>

    But when you get the Gorehowl when you drop Malkorok!! I usually get Fiery War Axe majority of the time.

     I always get the 5 damage paladin one that gives you health back.
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    posted a message on One Night in Karazhan - A Hearthstone Adventure
    Quote from DontFeedtheEmu >>

    The healthiest meta is a mixed meta. I think the Old Gods meta was healthy until Dragon Warrior. When you have to consider a different aspect of the game and play style each game I think the game is way more interesting. When you can't always just flood and push face because sometimes you have to play around board clears, or when you have to conserve your removal carefully so you can be last one to take out your opponents threats and survive in fatigue. 

     the dragon warrior I have not seen amazing results with yet, probably as I've only had like 10 games with it.. I was doing better with evolve shaman (which is not considered competitive in it neither.. and no flamewreathed at all) and the wombo deck.
    The dragon warrior is the most expensive deck I have as well, I probably do just need more practice with it though as I was hoping I would be doing better with it tbh.

    I agree about the mixed meta though, all decks should have at least 1 extreme weakness.. for me it's reno, especially when they play it back into their hand, that is just  like "whaaaaa" I mean what are you supposed to do when they just keep playing reno again and again? I just concede, it's not worth my time when they will just win anyway... 1 reno I can deal with, but 2 or 3 of them is insane, when they use the brewmasters to get him back again... I might be missing something but I'm sure that's practically un winnable without a control deck to stall him out.

    also regarding playing around board clears, for a new player, zoolock is the best way to learn this as it is so easy to loose everything, you must learn to bluff a lot playing zoo.
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    posted a message on One Night in Karazhan - A Hearthstone Adventure
    Quote from DontFeedtheEmu >>

    I'm a bit worried the devs either want an aggro meta or think that the community wants an aggro meta. It certainly feels that way on this one looking at the aggro and midrange tools versus the control tools were getting. Old Gods felt like a control meta attempt and people still played aggro maybe this is the devs throwing up there hands and saying you want it you got it.  No good board clears, the closest thing is Warriors kill me faster axe. Very situationally good taunts. A ton of aggro tools.

     also, I would be less apprehensive to a control dominated meta if there were more entry level friendly control decks... and in that I don't mean a low skill ceiling, I mean a deck that costs less than 9k dust to build, they all requires like 10 legendaries and 6 epics that I have seen anyway... I hope to eventually be able to play these decks, but right now it's just not an option at 3 or 4 weeks into the game... if you guys want the game to survive and new players to come to it, they need to be able to access the game.

     and besides, at the top end of the ladder and legend there is nothing but control decks, it's only the noobs like me at the bottom of the ladder playing cheap decks..... it's how the game works due to control decks needing more expensive cards to function... I could be wrong, but this is what I've picked up in my month in the game and at this forum.
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    posted a message on One Night in Karazhan - A Hearthstone Adventure
    Quote from DontFeedtheEmu >>

    No words. lol.

     :'D it was too funny to not say.. I love winding up control players.
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    posted a message on Ysera or Ragnaros?d raf
    Quote from Linkitylinklink >>
    Quote from brilliant_gnome >>

     

    Right now in standard Ragnaros is better than Ysera. If the meta ever slows down, Ysera will be better.

    In wild, which is a bit heavier and slower atm, Ysera is a fine choice.

     

     I can see that being the case, i just am not entirely sure because despite Ysera costing 1 more mana, she almost guarentees her survival with her extremely high health (turn 4 ysera druid anyone? XD it would be rare but doable) so you would almost always get her insane value twice as opposed to ragnaros' almost guarenteed only one use of his ability
     she's only used in proper slow control decks, which means top end ladder play and wild... the bottom end of the ladder is all zoolock, mid hunter, mid shaman and dragon warrior.... If you plan on playing a deck that uses her than maybe, but I got her in a pack the other day and D/E'd right away as she will not see any play from me for months due to limited amount of cards I have right now. Like the guys said above, the meta is not slow enough for her... however she may have a place in some control decks, I know nothing about those decks though so can't help any more on that.

    Ragnaros see's play in a lot of tops decks, both fast and slow... one of the best legendaries you can craft for the current meta (which is going to be here till at least till old gods rotates out which is 2018 or something) I actually D/E'd Ysera to get Ragnaros actually come to think of, also a gold malygos as 1600 dust off one card is too attractive to a new player.
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    posted a message on Ysera or Ragnaros?d raf

    you can disenchant them, you just can't craft them!

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