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They will announce it 2 weeks early like the last expansion. 

They need to remove Megasaur and add Scalelord instead. 

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That is NOTHING.. There were (past tense because I am not sure if it was fixed. It was occurring about a month ago) trackers that could identify generated cards when drawn. Specifically.. primes (second form) and albatrosses. So if you used those deck trackers, you knew if/when your opponent drew his prime or an albatross..This is basically cheating and those programs shouldn't be able to have that info. Obviously Blizzard has been notified.

Where did you see this bullshit? deck tracers don't show anything that you can't see without using them, they don't show if your opponent drew their prime, albatross or any other card.

 

first of all... it is 100% not bullshit. I was the one who noticed it and the one who notified them via multiple channels. The problem was/is obviously with some card id the server sends and probably reuses later when the card is drawn. The information was there only for those specific cards. The deck tracker is not one of the popular ones.

 Ok if you are so sure then show me the proof and/or tell me the name of the deck tracker.

dude.. why are you so aggressive? What is your problem exactly? I obviously cannot post the name of the deck tracker! What if the issue is still there? What are you saying that I am lying? To gain what exactly? Did I also put that bug report on 29th of May (report is still there without replies) just to plan ahead?? Do you also want me to forward you the emails with blizzard support??

PS: and to make things worse...I just played a meme deck with albatrosses just to check..the problem is still there..

PS2: you know what...do you want me to add you and play a battle just to see if the tracker can spot when you draw the albatross?

Why can't you tell the name the deck tracker? If people are cheating with a deck tracker then why are you hiding the deck tracker? Maybe you are also cheating with it!!!

First of all I was about to say sorry for jumping the gun at you yesterday. None can be sure since this is language in written form. I want to think you weren't really accusing me of lying but you were curious and skeptical..Now I want to believe you are not really accusing me of being a cheater. Why? ..I want to think you are a logical person (sorry if it really sounds aggressive from my part - IT IS NOT. I will elaborate).

Thank god we established (sort of) that this thing exists. Right now since it exists I can prove. So if you want definitive proof please ask me now for a challenge battle. Later it might be late since theoretically it can get fixed at any time. Why? Well.. programmatically speaking the problem is on the server side since it kinda sends information to the client that can be exploited. It can be fixed now..or tomorrow..or never. Since they know..they decide.

Now.. why can't I tell the name of the deck tracker? Isn't it obvious? What do you think will happen if I find a program that exploits (no matter how big or small like this one) any game and I share its name? I do not want to get banned for sharing that. Plain and simple.

Lets go to the "Maybe you are also cheating" part. Could I be using the tracker. I guess. Was I? I cannot prove that and you cannot either. Can I use the tracker to get that information and use it to gain an advantage? Of course I could. Was I? Again.. I cannot prove that unfortunately and you cannot either. As you can see this leads nowhere. If you want to throw meaningless and unprovable and also undefendable accusations towards someone about a game..what can I say? I can also accuse you of cheating using the same logic. I can say you also found about it and that you are using it. Can I prove it? er.. No..can you prove that you are not? No..see? it is easy..and stupid. I can also go as far to saying well.. what happens if a decent human being with no intention of cheating accidentally finds that thing? Well that is easy to answer. He contacts the company first through emails directly and if needed and told so, through the official bug report forum of the game. That is exactly what I did. That is a fact. Yes the problem is known publicly (since May 29) but that is what Blizzard specifically told me to do.  Would you do the same in my place? I cannot prove you would, but I think you would and I hope you would. Can you prove you would? Again No.. but honestly I think you would because you like me are not a damn cheater!

If you don't tell others Blizzard will never fix it just like they don't fix bugs in rarely played cards. If more people know of the cheater deck tracker, Blizzard is more like to fix the bug. Plus if you tell me how can Blizzard ban you? It's not like they can know your Blizzard account from Hearthpwn account.

I was just joking about you using the cheater deck tracker because you were not telling me the name of it. But in case you are using it and it actually cheats you will get banned, so don't do it.

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That is NOTHING.. There were (past tense because I am not sure if it was fixed. It was occurring about a month ago) trackers that could identify generated cards when drawn. Specifically.. primes (second form) and albatrosses. So if you used those deck trackers, you knew if/when your opponent drew his prime or an albatross..This is basically cheating and those programs shouldn't be able to have that info. Obviously Blizzard has been notified.

Where did you see this bullshit? deck tracers don't show anything that you can't see without using them, they don't show if your opponent drew their prime, albatross or any other card.

 

first of all... it is 100% not bullshit. I was the one who noticed it and the one who notified them via multiple channels. The problem was/is obviously with some card id the server sends and probably reuses later when the card is drawn. The information was there only for those specific cards. The deck tracker is not one of the popular ones.

 Ok if you are so sure then show me the proof and/or tell me the name of the deck tracker.

dude.. why are you so aggressive? What is your problem exactly? I obviously cannot post the name of the deck tracker! What if the issue is still there? What are you saying that I am lying? To gain what exactly? Did I also put that bug report on 29th of May (report is still there without replies) just to plan ahead?? Do you also want me to forward you the emails with blizzard support??

PS: and to make things worse...I just played a meme deck with albatrosses just to check..the problem is still there..

PS2: you know what...do you want me to add you and play a battle just to see if the tracker can spot when you draw the albatross?

Why can't you tell the name the deck tracker? If people are cheating with a deck tracker then why are you hiding the deck tracker? Maybe you are also cheating with it!!!

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That is NOTHING.. There were (past tense because I am not sure if it was fixed. It was occurring about a month ago) trackers that could identify generated cards when drawn. Specifically.. primes (second form) and albatrosses. So if you used those deck trackers, you knew if/when your opponent drew his prime or an albatross..This is basically cheating and those programs shouldn't be able to have that info. Obviously Blizzard has been notified.

Where did you see this bullshit? deck tracers don't show anything that you can't see without using them, they don't show if your opponent drew their prime, albatross or any other card.

 

first of all... it is 100% not bullshit. I was the one who noticed it and the one who notified them via multiple channels. The problem was/is obviously with some card id the server sends and probably reuses later when the card is drawn. The information was there only for those specific cards. The deck tracker is not one of the popular ones.

 Ok if you are so sure then show me the proof and/or tell me the name of the deck tracker.

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That is NOTHING.. There were (past tense because I am not sure if it was fixed. It was occurring about a month ago) trackers that could identify generated cards when drawn. Specifically.. primes (second form) and albatrosses. So if you used those deck trackers, you knew if/when your opponent drew his prime or an albatross..This is basically cheating and those programs shouldn't be able to have that info. Obviously Blizzard has been notified.

Where did you see this bullshit? deck tracers don't show anything that you can't see without using them, they don't show if your opponent drew their prime, albatross or any other card.

DH still should be the best deck to climb the ladder. 

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As a Gala Rogue player (not to mention I play highlander version the most), this nerf seems like a ton of bs to me.

Nerfing classes that aren't even close to tier 1 (Rogue, Mage), nerfing DH AGAIN (I think it was fine at this point, actually) and leaving the most opressive deck - Highlander Hunter. I literaly have around 10% W/R vs Highlander Hunter, with tons of of broken cards, yet they leave it and nerf pretty much every other class lol.

 

What are you talking about? They nerfed Hunter too, can't you see the DQ Alex nerf? 

Not possible.

Well... for the time being, at least until the next expansion, DH is dead in Wild, and possibly also in Standard. Most classes get nerfed in some way, but Metamorphosis and Warglaives of Azzinoth are pretty terrible now. So much for iconic cards...

Be prepared to be wrong in a week.

Rogue Gala still gives a huge mana discount, just that it is not as swingy as before. 

Mage and Warrior barely got nerfed.

DH took a big hit but it is DH, it will still be the best deck on the ladder to climb.

Blizzard just announced a new balance patch: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/hearthstone/t/176-balance-updates/36815

Dragoncaster, DQ Alex, Corsair Cache, Rogue's Gala and lots of DH cards got nerfed slightly. 

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Of course it's not correct. Not sure why that guy is spreading misinformation like that.

 

Because he doesn't MMR system. 

There is a reason we only have 18 deck slots. HS community can't handle a simple mmr system. 

I see so many buff Paladin posts and comments but I rarely see any buff Shaman posts even though Shaman is 10x worse than Paladin. No one likes Shamans :( 

Tavern tier for some totems needs to be changed, eg: Razgore totem on 1 star is gross and Selfish Totem on 5 star is weak.