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Quote from Setcamper »

Feels like this deck just rolls over and dies to rush decks/decks that flood the board fast. We have no AoE removal, and really no early removal besides War Axe, and most opponents have no trouble trading favorably with our delicate minions. I don't know, everything seems to fall apart of me if I don't start with WarAxe and curve perfectly.

Yup, finding the exact same thing.

Thanks for the tips. I tried that strat vs a rogue...and it worked ok, not great, but it did end in a win. Next up....a hunter. Once again, completely dominated. Not sure what's up...I've never had this sort of challenge with a deck before.

Perhaps you could post a video or something?  I enjoy warrior, have played several good decks that I did well with...I'm just not having that experience with this one particular deck, even with your suggestions above.

Just got completely blown out of the water vs a hunter. First match with it...didn't stand a chance vs his aggro. He won on turn 6....I never scratched him.  I'm a decent player...been playing since beta. I do pretty well w/ control warrior decks usually.

I'm hoping it's just a really bad draw for me and a really good draw for him. But so far, not off to a good start.

Man...this is really frustrating. I want to like this deck, it has one of the most thought out guides I've seen. I have 100% of all the cards. But I can't win a single match with this deck. In fact, I lost 2 ranks trying to play it. I went 0/5 (or 0/6...can't recall).  I'd ordinarily chalk it up to just playing a new deck...but never have I lost so many matches with a deck even when it was new. It's possible that I'm just getting cRaZy unlucky with the draw and w/ match-ups...but I had to abandon this deck after losing 5 in a row (again, something I've never done with any deck before (and I've been playing since closed beta).

Then again, it's possible this deck is only for extremely skilled players, and I'm a casual, and thus, I've no chance in competing with it. But this is the only deck I've encountered where I couldn't use at least with a 50/50 ratio.

*edit* I tried a new Pally deck (Humiliation Control)...new to me anyway...and have gone 7/0 with it, rising 3 ranks.

I just don't see the viability w/ this Holy Control deck.

This is a great deck. After struggling big time with another Pally deck (Holy Control) and losing 5-6 in a row (and 2 ranks in the process), I switched to this and have won 7 in a row and moved up 3 ranks..

Lovin' it! Thanks. ;)

Why does this one suck?

Your post is neither constructive nor productive.  After a 5 game losing streak with 2 other decks, I tried this one and won  3 in a row with this build. Fluke? Possible. But it doesn't seem horrible like you say..

I just tried Kripp's deck: http://www.managrind.com/?p=735.  I won 2 / 3 matches with it.  It's a good deck, and seems on par with the op's deck.

Confirmed after 20+ more games. This is just a horrible deck at Diamond+.

I'm also finding serious challenges running this deck. I'm running at about only 25% with it. Shamans always seem to dominate it. And any aggro deck worth its salt also seem to stop this deck dead in its tracks.

It's a "fun" deck...but the meta is all about the aggro unfortunately. Using a few charges and taunts complete decimates this deck right now.

Thanks for posting this deck.  It's a fun and refreshing take on Priest.  I get tired of the L   O   N   G games with Priest control.  This one throws people off too because they don't expect it.

Quote from Lux_EU »

I disagree you have enough sustain to last into the late game with Holy Fire etc. If you are running into Rush Decks like Zoo. You should run Wild Pyromancer and Holy Smite. This deck excels after Rank 10 when you run into a larger selection of decks like Handlock and Ramp Druid.

Shadow Madness and SW:P are too slow in the current meta.

Well exactly. Holy smite and or pyromancers is what this deck is missing. It has absolutely terrible time dealing with early game rushing. You are completely reliant on lucky card draws to survive something like zoo since the only decent early game you have is watcher + taunt.

Yes you run into Handlock(not that much lately) and Ramp druid in ranks above 10, but you also run into hunters and zoo that will just crush you if you are only relying on watchers.

This type of deck is so prominent to "unlucky draws" it's not even funny. That's the definition of bad deck design in CCGs

Quote from Lux_EU »

I disagree you have enough sustain to last into the late game with Holy Fire etc. If you are running into Rush Decks like Zoo. You should run Wild Pyromancer and Holy Smite. This deck excels after Rank 10 when you run into a larger selection of decks like Handlock and Ramp Druid.

Shadow Madness and SW:P are too slow in the current meta.

SW:P and Shadow Madness are in no way "too slow" for the current meta. Pain drops a creature for 2 and Madness drops 2 creatures for 4. I'd argue instead that Cabal Shadow Priest and Auchenai Soulpriest are too slow.

Your suggestion of Wild Pyro and Smite is well-taken, but note that it's another 2-card combo. What you need to understand is that 2-card combos are not the solution for aggro decks, as they rely far more on luck/draws than something like a Sen'jin Shieldmasta, an Abomination, or the two cards I mentioned above. You have so many cards in your deck that will just sit as dead cards until you get the partner card necessary to make them useful. Watcher is a big example. Unless you're running 2x Argus 2x Sunfury and some Silence (like most druids), Watcher is more than likely a dead card in your hand for most matches. Wild Pyro would be reliable if you had a lot of cheap spells to complement him (hence, SW:P. Shadow Madness), But Smite and PW:S aren't gonna cut it.

All my previous comments aside, this deck actually does really well against control druid/handlock/control warrior setups. In EU these might be super popular. In NA they are popular in Rank 2 and up, but are far outnumbered by rush hunter and zoo. For the rest of the ladder, you're better off not playing priest IMO.

I wish you the best of luck with the deck, and I appreciate the time you put into crafting and fine tuning it. I just think it's the right deck for the wrong meta.

This deck seems nice at first glance, but is utterly terrible in the current meta. Rush anything will stomp this deck unless you get really, really, REALLY lucky with the draws/mulligans. You have way too many card combos required to get anything done (injured+circle, watcher+sunfury, auchenai+circle etc etc etc) and aggro/zoo/midrange can all manhandle you way before you get a chance to summon anything 6 gems or higher, let alone Ysera. There's a reason priest isn't popular in the meta. It's just sub-par. This would be a great deck for fun/casual/non-ranked matchups, but I wouldn't take this anywhere near competitive. And yes, I did playtest this deck in many matches. 8/10 were zoo/rush paladin/rush mage/rush warrior and all of them crushed this deck. Definitely recommend revision if you want to call this a "ladder-climber" deck. My advice: You mentioned correctly that priest is infamous for its control, but you put very little of that control in this deck. Run some shadow madness, some shadow word pain, some taunts like shieldmasta that don't require a two-card combo, and you'll be way better off.