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everyone knows this deck now..time to say rip for a little while. can't break 15 with it, while in test season 1 i smacked r8 and prob could of kept going.

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To be honest the only difference I see is 2x Mortal Coil, the rest is still turn 3+ and requires some luck against rushing.

true, but those two coils(leeroy+coil or early game removal for paladins recruits/young priestess etc.) are a huge factor and you're substitute's don't seem to balance out the deck imo

Thing is if you don't draw those Mortal Coils early on you are just as screwed. Anyway Doomsayer wasn't working out so I added in 1 Mortal Coil and 1 Shadowflame again. Maybe I will try using 2 of them, I just wish there was better early removal for warlock like Wrath.

In the end this deck can beat everything aside from rush and mage decks, I suppose that would be fair if there weren't 500.000 of those decks at high ranking.

not necessarily, late game say they have board control then u follow with ancient+shadowflame more often then not you drop their 5 hp minion(for example) down to one hp then you coil+card draw. excellent vs sylvanyas. you have to think if there was better removal for this deck it would be OP as F. what I've recently done is made a paladin control deck as plan b. they handle argo really well imo.

good talks and happy gaming ^^

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To be honest the only difference I see is 2x Mortal Coil, the rest is still turn 3+ and requires some luck against rushing.

true, but those two coils(leeroy+coil or early game removal for paladins recruits/young priestess etc.) are a huge factor and you're substitute's don't seem to balance out the deck imo

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your onto the right stew mix with the above as the cookie cutter meta crusher... this deck is a tourny winner for a reason, it answers the rush and the druid taunt, it fails on good rogue or lucky beef stews though... I got this into the legend rank so it is more hit than miss

I agree i've tried various control builds that have circulated around LJ and none come close to be as effective as this one. took out mountains because they would either come up late when I had no cards and LJ already out or they would come to early. at best I would be able to play one at round 5 and that's if I didn't have something better to play for that round. with that said though they did win me a 2 games because the other player couldn't deal with a 8/8 on round 5.

with all these argo decks running around(mage rush almost impossible matchup) I try to stick to this version because it handles above average vs most argo decks and has served me well universally. I peaked r8 and got reset. What I did notice is twlights are so prone to silence and lost a few games early because of that(trying to find suitable replacement). I took out two mountains and put in rag/abomination. idk looking at deathwing I personally think he would be a dead card because once I get LJ out it normally isn't a problem maintaining the board for first couple rounds. maybe get alex back in this deck and take out leeroy?(while losing whelps+coil combo?) I say alex mainly for the mage match up, but idk how viable that would be. any thoughts ?