I honestly think it's a pretty good "job". I'm not trying to sh1t-talk streamers, I'm just stating what I think so don't just assume I'm flaming them for no reason. As a Hearthstone streamer, you can listen to music while playing Hearthstone, a casual game which requires minimal thinking. I'm not trying to talk down about Hearthstone or anything but it's the truth. Compare Hearthstone to say, League of Legends. To be able to play LoL at an extremely competitive level, you need to use your brain a lot, be extremely aware, have good hand-eye coordination and more. Meanwhile for Hearthstone, all you need is money + netdeck and maybe adjust your netdeck a little bit to counter the meta, play about 1000 games and you can be competitive already. Honestly I watched some streamers and they seem really relaxed. Just sit down on their chairs, play a casual game, play music and entertain twitch chat with some memes and they get paid just like that. There is really no heavy responsibility in this job, no skills upgrading or difficult theories that you have to master(like getting a degree). It's really one of the easiest jobs ever for money to effort ratio.
Let's get the most major misunderstanding of your post out of the way first, intent is not a necessary ingredient for sh1t-talk.
Secondly I think your experience with being at or reaching the highest ranks regularly is a natural issue, given the points of your post. So it would be nice if you told us a little bit about this. Obviously I'm not trying to flame you.
I honestly think it's a pretty good "job". I'm not trying to sh1t-talk streamers, I'm just stating what I think so don't just assume I'm flaming them for no reason. As a Hearthstone streamer, you can listen to music while playing Hearthstone, a casual game which requires minimal thinking. I'm not trying to talk down about Hearthstone or anything but it's the truth. Compare Hearthstone to say, League of Legends. To be able to play LoL at an extremely competitive level, you need to use your brain a lot, be extremely aware, have good hand-eye coordination and more. Meanwhile for Hearthstone, all you need is money + netdeck and maybe adjust your netdeck a little bit to counter the meta, play about 1000 games and you can be competitive already. Honestly I watched some streamers and they seem really relaxed. Just sit down on their chairs, play a casual game, play music and entertain twitch chat with some memes and they get paid just like that. There is really no heavy responsibility in this job, no skills upgrading or difficult theories that you have to master(like getting a degree). It's really one of the easiest jobs ever for money to effort ratio.
Not sure if trolling or something. It's a card game so yes, obviously, your APM doesn't matter. But earning money through stream is not easy. You either need to be extremely good at this game or very entertaining which is another skillset.
I'd rather have a college degree than earning money from streaming without any future assurances about my income. Or maybe in 40 years there's oldasstwitch.tv for those elderly streamers. Who knows, maybe I just found a market niche!
It's nothing to do with how hard a game is. There are Marvel comic hero fighting game streamers, they just need good reflexes and learn off some combo's, right?
There's a lot to streaming I imagine. The tech set up for starters, you need to be at least competent with PC/net/hardware set ups. It requires stamina, you can't just stream the odd hour here and there if you want to be successful, you need also dedication. You are a presenter/caster/teacher/player all rolled into one. Viewers expect you to at least be better than they are, or what's the point in watching you? You put yourself up there to be ridiculed and critiqued by the often sess-pool-ish online community. You'll be mocked and tested across twitch chat, reddit, 4Chan, Imgur .... have threads like this made about how lazy and easy you've got it ... etc You'll face witch hunts, accusations, back stabbing and other such loveliness from the 'ardcore.
Like other say: Go ahead and try it, see how far you get if it's so easy.
I know I couldn't put myself out there so publicly like that [I'm crap at gaming for starters]
Some of them do seem to be obnoxious and free-loading and abuse the whole concept, but any of the streamers I watch seem to work hard, take a lot of stick for it, and probably make less than minimum wage per month.
If you play at rank 20 you probably don't have to think. But if you ever reach rank 5+ or attempt legend, you will be rudely awakened to the competitive, thought-necessary version of the game you have seemingly remained ignorant to. However, being a streamer doesn't necessarily mean you have to play at that level, although they likely will to gain a following, I just wanted to clarify this point.
I personally would enjoy being a streamer because you have your own sort of community to interact with. Some do constructive things with their followers and others degrade theirs into number / emote spamming bots, to each their own. I would tire of some of the chat if it were ever to get so large as to get redundant, and I feel that that may be the point at which the streamer may lose any control over the constructiveness of the chat, bar sub-mode.
If you get rid of all the eye candy girl streamers (Look at my tank top cleavage) there are what, maybe 20 guys who can say they're "making a living" as a hearthstone streamer. I watch Guardsman Bob, Ratsmah and Hafu and half the time they look like they want to poke out their eyes than play more arena. Bob even admits almost daily that his indentured servitude to twitch is just a shot in the dark hoping to get a job working for Blizzard
Oh lord ... I wondered when someone would mention Forsen. The worst example of streaming being actual work. Can't stomach that tool, don't know why anyone watches him regular.
Obvious troll or a kid, who seriously thinks playing 7 hours every day for rather not that big money is the best job ever.
Actually really successful streamers make a large amount of money. For example, Trump, makes more than the average American by streaming and with YouTube videos.
Since when Hearthstone Streamer is considered as a real job?
Good luck putting that down when applying for mortgage loans.
Forsen makes 18k a month from donations alone, although he is clearly one of the more successful in that regard.
Yeah this is basically a druglord type scenario where the top 0.1% of guys make crazy money and the rest just tryhard for 70 hours a week trying to trick people into giving them money to play video games.
Obvious troll or a kid, who seriously thinks playing 7 hours every day for rather not that big money is the best job ever.
not that big money?
I think some streamers get way more money than most of the other jobs give you... ^^ just look at all the donations they get... that's 200-300$ each hour
let's say they stream 20 days a month and 7 hours a day... that's still 20-30k a month after tax
it really depends how big of a streamer you are, but people like Kripp, Amaz, Reynad will earn tons of money... way more than 99% of the rest of the "normal" people do
Obvious troll or a kid, who seriously thinks playing 7 hours every day for rather not that big money is the best job ever.
not that big money?
I think some streamers get way more money than most of the other jobs give you... ^^ just look at all the donations they get... that's 200-300$ each hour
let's say they stream 20 days a month and 7 hours a day... that's still 20-30k a month after tax
it really depends how big of a streamer you are, but people like Kripp, Amaz, Reynad will earn tons of money... way more than 99% of the rest of the "normal" people do
Yeah, the top streamers earn big money, but there only around 10 big streamers beside the girls with big boobs in Hearthstone. This is from the whole world, not just your local area. Massan for example said that he streamed for 12 hours every day when he started, later switched to 8 hour stream and 4 hours off-stream practice. Today he has an 8 hour job and streams after like 4-5 hours at least. This is a very hard work, even if you enjoy it. If you put that much effort into a normal job, you have a much higher chance to have success and have a solid income.
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I honestly think it's a pretty good "job". I'm not trying to sh1t-talk streamers, I'm just stating what I think so don't just assume I'm flaming them for no reason. As a Hearthstone streamer, you can listen to music while playing Hearthstone, a casual game which requires minimal thinking. I'm not trying to talk down about Hearthstone or anything but it's the truth. Compare Hearthstone to say, League of Legends. To be able to play LoL at an extremely competitive level, you need to use your brain a lot, be extremely aware, have good hand-eye coordination and more. Meanwhile for Hearthstone, all you need is money + netdeck and maybe adjust your netdeck a little bit to counter the meta, play about 1000 games and you can be competitive already. Honestly I watched some streamers and they seem really relaxed. Just sit down on their chairs, play a casual game, play music and entertain twitch chat with some memes and they get paid just like that. There is really no heavy responsibility in this job, no skills upgrading or difficult theories that you have to master(like getting a degree). It's really one of the easiest jobs ever for money to effort ratio.
You are going to be attacked so hard for this post :-)
I would say good for them. I enjoy my job. But not everybody does and then the grass seems greener at the other side.
While I think hs is a great game. I couldn't be bothered to play it 10+ hours a day. If you can, become a streamer yourself.
so why dont you to it by yourself?
Minimal Work with Maximal Profit......should be the goal for everyone right?
Let's get the most major misunderstanding of your post out of the way first, intent is not a necessary ingredient for sh1t-talk.
Secondly I think your experience with being at or reaching the highest ranks regularly is a natural issue, given the points of your post. So it would be nice if you told us a little bit about this. Obviously I'm not trying to flame you.
Not sure if trolling or something. It's a card game so yes, obviously, your APM doesn't matter. But earning money through stream is not easy. You either need to be extremely good at this game or very entertaining which is another skillset.
I would've maybe taken this 5 percent seriously if he didn't imply League of Legends takes any sort of motor skills at all.
It is not easy to become a very good streamer who gets a lot of money.
1. You have to be a good hearthstone player.
2. You have to be a good streamer, people must like it to watch your stream.
The streamers are always relaxed but they are also thinking of the best move to do.
if you like the job, good luck
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You can't listen to music while streaming LoL?
That's weird.
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I'd rather have a college degree than earning money from streaming without any future assurances about my income. Or maybe in 40 years there's oldasstwitch.tv for those elderly streamers. Who knows, maybe I just found a market niche!
LOL is a hard game? news to me ...
It's nothing to do with how hard a game is. There are Marvel comic hero fighting game streamers, they just need good reflexes and learn off some combo's, right?
There's a lot to streaming I imagine. The tech set up for starters, you need to be at least competent with PC/net/hardware set ups. It requires stamina, you can't just stream the odd hour here and there if you want to be successful, you need also dedication. You are a presenter/caster/teacher/player all rolled into one. Viewers expect you to at least be better than they are, or what's the point in watching you? You put yourself up there to be ridiculed and critiqued by the often sess-pool-ish online community. You'll be mocked and tested across twitch chat, reddit, 4Chan, Imgur .... have threads like this made about how lazy and easy you've got it ... etc You'll face witch hunts, accusations, back stabbing and other such loveliness from the 'ardcore.
Like other say: Go ahead and try it, see how far you get if it's so easy.
I know I couldn't put myself out there so publicly like that [I'm crap at gaming for starters]
Some of them do seem to be obnoxious and free-loading and abuse the whole concept, but any of the streamers I watch seem to work hard, take a lot of stick for it, and probably make less than minimum wage per month.
If you play at rank 20 you probably don't have to think. But if you ever reach rank 5+ or attempt legend, you will be rudely awakened to the competitive, thought-necessary version of the game you have seemingly remained ignorant to. However, being a streamer doesn't necessarily mean you have to play at that level, although they likely will to gain a following, I just wanted to clarify this point.
I personally would enjoy being a streamer because you have your own sort of community to interact with. Some do constructive things with their followers and others degrade theirs into number / emote spamming bots, to each their own. I would tire of some of the chat if it were ever to get so large as to get redundant, and I feel that that may be the point at which the streamer may lose any control over the constructiveness of the chat, bar sub-mode.
If you get rid of all the eye candy girl streamers (Look at my tank top cleavage) there are what, maybe 20 guys who can say they're "making a living" as a hearthstone streamer. I watch Guardsman Bob, Ratsmah and Hafu and half the time they look like they want to poke out their eyes than play more arena. Bob even admits almost daily that his indentured servitude to twitch is just a shot in the dark hoping to get a job working for Blizzard
Oh lord ... I wondered when someone would mention Forsen. The worst example of streaming being actual work. Can't stomach that tool, don't know why anyone watches him regular.
Since when Hearthstone Streamer is considered as a real job?
Good luck putting that down when applying for mortgage loans.
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Actually really successful streamers make a large amount of money. For example, Trump, makes more than the average American by streaming and with YouTube videos.
Forsen makes 18k a month from donations alone, although he is clearly one of the more successful in that regard.
Yeah this is basically a druglord type scenario where the top 0.1% of guys make crazy money and the rest just tryhard for 70 hours a week trying to trick people into giving them money to play video games.
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not that big money?
I think some streamers get way more money than most of the other jobs give you... ^^ just look at all the donations they get... that's 200-300$ each hour
let's say they stream 20 days a month and 7 hours a day... that's still 20-30k a month after tax
it really depends how big of a streamer you are, but people like Kripp, Amaz, Reynad will earn tons of money... way more than 99% of the rest of the "normal" people do
Yeah, the top streamers earn big money, but there only around 10 big streamers beside the girls with big boobs in Hearthstone. This is from the whole world, not just your local area. Massan for example said that he streamed for 12 hours every day when he started, later switched to 8 hour stream and 4 hours off-stream practice. Today he has an 8 hour job and streams after like 4-5 hours at least. This is a very hard work, even if you enjoy it. If you put that much effort into a normal job, you have a much higher chance to have success and have a solid income.