I'm only playing Druid, Warlock, and Priest. I've also some Paladin and Warrior cards (because I can't afford to play every classes of the game)
The only thing that sometimes works is the stupid Neptulon priest but I hate myself for playing this, so I try to find an other solution.
I also tried Reno Lock, Reno Druid and mill Druid but I always get overwhelmed by 5/5 and 6/6 for 0 mana, counterspells, and Objection preventing me to play anti secret battlecries.
I won a couple of times with abyssal curses warlock but only when I had the perfect rng.
What should I do ? Try to play Pirates with Priest or Warrior ?
WHAT IS THE PREDATOR OF THIS SECRET DECKS ???
It has been 2 or 3 years since I played and I felt like the only reason I get to legend this month is because I had the luck to never encounter mages while I was going D5 to Legend, but now I get destroyed by them.
I know there isn't such things like a perfect deck that can beat everything, but I'd like to come up to something where I can smile when I'm matched against a mage, as if I was a Mill druid being matched against a big control warrior, knowing he's about to have a hard time against me.
Don‘t know how good this is but maybe this one (or another) from Roffle. He also played some Pala the last time. So maybe you will find some inspiration for a own deck.
I've been playing a lot of Reno Renethal Shadow Thief Priest and the match is somewhat favorable, albeit somewhat draw dependent on the healing sources. The benefit of this deck is while it may not be a direct counter to Secret Mage, it has a fair chance while not sacrificing win rates against other decks (Big Priest, Pirate Rogue, Mill Druid, etc.)
Sure thing! Sorry for late response. Here's my current list:
### Kleptomania Priest # Class: Priest # Format: Wild # # 1x (0) Forbidden Words # 1x (1) Potion of Madness # 1x (1) Psychic Conjurer # 1x (1) Shadowcloth Needle # 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos # 1x (2) Defias Leper # 1x (2) Dirty Rat # 1x (2) Insight # 1x (2) Seance # 1x (2) Shadow Visions # 1x (2) Shadow Word: Death # 1x (2) Spirit Lash # 1x (2) Thoughtsteal # 1x (2) Thrive in the Shadows # 1x (2) Zephrys the Great # 1x (3) Brann Bronzebeard # 1x (3) Cathedral of Atonement # 1x (3) Handmaiden # 1x (3) Identity Theft # 1x (3) Mindrender Illucia # 1x (3) Murloc Holmes # 1x (3) Palm Reading # 1x (3) Prince Renathal # 1x (3) The Harvester of Envy # 1x (4) Blademaster Okani # 1x (4) Hysteria # 1x (4) Kazakus # 1x (4) Lorekeeper Polkelt # 1x (4) Shadow Word: Ruin # 1x (5) Darkbishop Benedictus # 1x (5) Loatheb # 1x (5) Mass Hysteria # 1x (5) Raza the Chained # 1x (6) Reno Jackson # 1x (6) Theotar, the Mad Duke # 1x (7) Blackwater Behemoth # 1x (7) Mutanus the Devourer # 1x (7) Psychic Scream # 1x (7) Soul Mirror # 1x (8) Shadowreaper Anduin # AAEBAd35Ayge+g6DuwK1uwLYuwLRwQLfxALwzwLo0AKQ0wKXhwPmiAOYmwP8owPIvgP70QP21gPi3gP73wP44wOm7wP08QO79wONgQStigS+nwTBnwTwnwSXoATHsgSktgSotgSY1ASa1AS42QS43ATF5ASX7wS/8ASGgwUAAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Illucia should probably be replaced by Madame Lazule or Glimmeroot if you don't have her (I don't), but I've been including Illucia just for fun. And to see if I can OTK a Jailer Mecha'thun Warlock.
A few words regarding the Secret Mage matchup you were discussing:
Forbidden Words is an interesting card in the Secret Mage matchup. You can try to use it to proc their Counterspell, but if you are wrong you lose all mana. :) To win you will likely need to draw Reno or Behemoth. Focus on tempo and removal early on (Don't be afraid to play Harvester of Envy or Murloc Holmes on turn 3). Sometimes chipping face and sacrificing some face damage is worth it though if you are confident they have Rigged Faire Game in play and they appear to be running low on steam, but somewhat risky. Shadowcloth Needle can help with this as well as being overall helpful in the matchup. Try to hold on to Psychic Conjurer or other cheap minions to counter Objection, at least when you need to be sure to play a Reno or Behemoth. The Thalnos Spiritlash combo can be useful as well. Try to Seance your Reno if you can. If board is clear, hold on to Zephrys as he should be used for either board clears or healing when low on HP (deck doesn't have a ton of healing). Kill Orion asap, but sometimes you can kill him easier by allowing him to proc at least once (due to Shadow Word: Ruin, Shadowreaper Anduin, and Shadow Word Death). You can use Cathedral of Atonement to help make these removals more efficient as well. If you do draw Polkelt early, it can be useful to have a direct route to your Behemoth, Reno, and board clears, but he is a bit risky as you need be careful about Counterspell and Objection and some of the higher cost cards aren't great in the matchup (Mutanus, Theotar, Darkbishop Benedictus). If you do play Theotar hold on to a cheap spell if you can so you can successfully play Psychic Scream or Soul Mirror and try to time your Shadowreaper Anduin to get rid of those 5-6 attack minions.
So far win rate is 64% overall over 230 games and it's loads of fun. I used this deck to climb to Legend the past couple seasons. Only negative win rate matchup is against Warlock, which is 12-14, primarily due to Curse / Fatigue Warlock. Other win rates are Demon Hunter: 4-1, Druid: 12-9, Hunter: 10-2, Mage: 21-15, Paladin: 7-4, Priest: 29-17, Rogue: 23-12, Warrior: 6-1. As you can see, the deck doesn't necessarily specialize against Mage, but it can beat it and does very well against Rogue and Priest, including Big Priest, which in my opinion is more satisfying to beat than Secret Mage anyways, especially with a control deck.
If you decide to try the deck, I hope you enjoy it and good luck regardless! If you find ways to improve it, I'd be interested to hear that as well.
Sure thing! Sorry for late response. Here's my current list:
### Kleptomania Priest # Class: Priest # Format: Wild # # 1x (0) Forbidden Words # 1x (1) Potion of Madness # 1x (1) Psychic Conjurer # 1x (1) Shadowcloth Needle # 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos # 1x (2) Defias Leper # 1x (2) Dirty Rat # 1x (2) Insight # 1x (2) Seance # 1x (2) Shadow Visions # 1x (2) Shadow Word: Death # 1x (2) Spirit Lash # 1x (2) Thoughtsteal # 1x (2) Thrive in the Shadows # 1x (2) Zephrys the Great # 1x (3) Brann Bronzebeard # 1x (3) Cathedral of Atonement # 1x (3) Handmaiden # 1x (3) Identity Theft # 1x (3) Mindrender Illucia # 1x (3) Murloc Holmes # 1x (3) Palm Reading # 1x (3) Prince Renathal # 1x (3) The Harvester of Envy # 1x (4) Blademaster Okani # 1x (4) Hysteria # 1x (4) Kazakus # 1x (4) Lorekeeper Polkelt # 1x (4) Shadow Word: Ruin # 1x (5) Darkbishop Benedictus # 1x (5) Loatheb # 1x (5) Mass Hysteria # 1x (5) Raza the Chained # 1x (6) Reno Jackson # 1x (6) Theotar, the Mad Duke # 1x (7) Blackwater Behemoth # 1x (7) Mutanus the Devourer # 1x (7) Psychic Scream # 1x (7) Soul Mirror # 1x (8) Shadowreaper Anduin # AAEBAd35Ayge+g6DuwK1uwLYuwLRwQLfxALwzwLo0AKQ0wKXhwPmiAOYmwP8owPIvgP70QP21gPi3gP73wP44wOm7wP08QO79wONgQStigS+nwTBnwTwnwSXoATHsgSktgSotgSY1ASa1AS42QS43ATF5ASX7wS/8ASGgwUAAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Illucia should probably be replaced by Madame Lazule or Glimmeroot if you don't have her (I don't), but I've been including Illucia just for fun. And to see if I can OTK a Jailer Mecha'thun Warlock.
A few words regarding the Secret Mage matchup you were discussing:
Forbidden Words is an interesting card in the Secret Mage matchup. You can try to use it to proc their Counterspell, but if you are wrong you lose all mana. :) To win you will likely need to draw Reno or Behemoth. Focus on tempo and removal early on (Don't be afraid to play Harvester of Envy or Murloc Holmes on turn 3). Sometimes chipping face and sacrificing some face damage is worth it though if you are confident they have Rigged Faire Game in play and they appear to be running low on steam, but somewhat risky. Shadowcloth Needle can help with this as well as being overall helpful in the matchup. Try to hold on to Psychic Conjurer or other cheap minions to counter Objection, at least when you need to be sure to play a Reno or Behemoth. The Thalnos Spiritlash combo can be useful as well. Try to Seance your Reno if you can. If board is clear, hold on to Zephrys as he should be used for either board clears or healing when low on HP (deck doesn't have a ton of healing). Kill Orion asap, but sometimes you can kill him easier by allowing him to proc at least once (due to Shadow Word: Ruin, Shadowreaper Anduin, and Shadow Word Death). You can use Cathedral of Atonement to help make these removals more efficient as well. If you do draw Polkelt early, it can be useful to have a direct route to your Behemoth, Reno, and board clears, but he is a bit risky as you need be careful about Counterspell and Objection and some of the higher cost cards aren't great in the matchup (Mutanus, Theotar, Darkbishop Benedictus). If you do play Theotar hold on to a cheap spell if you can so you can successfully play Psychic Scream or Soul Mirror and try to time your Shadowreaper Anduin to get rid of those 5-6 attack minions.
So far win rate is 64% overall over 230 games and it's loads of fun. I used this deck to climb to Legend the past couple seasons. Only negative win rate matchup is against Warlock, which is 12-14, primarily due to Curse / Fatigue Warlock. Other win rates are Demon Hunter: 4-1, Druid: 12-9, Hunter: 10-2, Mage: 21-15, Paladin: 7-4, Priest: 29-17, Rogue: 23-12, Warrior: 6-1. As you can see, the deck doesn't necessarily specialize against Mage, but it can beat it and does very well against Rogue and Priest, including Big Priest, which in my opinion is more satisfying to beat than Secret Mage anyways, especially with a control deck.
If you decide to try the deck, I hope you enjoy it and good luck regardless! If you find ways to improve it, I'd be interested to hear that as well.
Well it worked incredibly well, even if I had 2 or 3 secret mages who rekted me, I also rekted some :)
Went from D4 to Legend tonight with it
Thanks a lot for this great deck, had a lot of fun with it :)
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I'm only playing Druid, Warlock, and Priest. I've also some Paladin and Warrior cards (because I can't afford to play every classes of the game)
The only thing that sometimes works is the stupid Neptulon priest but I hate myself for playing this, so I try to find an other solution.
I also tried Reno Lock, Reno Druid and mill Druid but I always get overwhelmed by 5/5 and 6/6 for 0 mana, counterspells, and Objection preventing me to play anti secret battlecries.
I won a couple of times with abyssal curses warlock but only when I had the perfect rng.
What should I do ? Try to play Pirates with Priest or Warrior ?
WHAT IS THE PREDATOR OF THIS SECRET DECKS ???
It has been 2 or 3 years since I played and I felt like the only reason I get to legend this month is because I had the luck to never encounter mages while I was going D5 to Legend, but now I get destroyed by them.
I know there isn't such things like a perfect deck that can beat everything, but I'd like to come up to something where I can smile when I'm matched against a mage, as if I was a Mill druid being matched against a big control warrior, knowing he's about to have a hard time against me.
Please help me, thanks a lot guys
Easy. Another game. Not HS.
Nah I refuse to lose hope, even if the difficulty increased a lot since Objection had been printed
For the counter?
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# Format: Wild
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# 2x (1) Alleycat
# 1x (1) Flare
# 2x (1) Overwhelm
# 2x (1) Pelican Diver
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# 2x (1) Wolpertinger
# 2x (1) Wound Prey
# 2x (2) Encumbered Pack Mule
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# 2x (2) Starving Buzzard
# 2x (3) Harpoon Gun
# 2x (3) Master's Call
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# 1x (6) Beaststalker Tavish
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# 1x (10) Sire Denathrius
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Thank you sadly I mostly play Warlock, Druid, Priest, Warrior or Paladin.
Do you know what I could do with these classes ?
dodge (insta concede when q into for the specific toxic deck u hate). or join them
Don‘t know how good this is but maybe this one (or another) from Roffle. He also played some Pala the last time. So maybe you will find some inspiration for a own deck.
Looks cool, I will try it !
Maybe hero cards are the only way to deal with these annoying secrets...
I've been playing a lot of Reno Renethal Shadow Thief Priest and the match is somewhat favorable, albeit somewhat draw dependent on the healing sources. The benefit of this deck is while it may not be a direct counter to Secret Mage, it has a fair chance while not sacrificing win rates against other decks (Big Priest, Pirate Rogue, Mill Druid, etc.)
Thank you can you show me your decklist ? :)
Sure thing! Sorry for late response. Here's my current list:
### Kleptomania Priest
# Class: Priest
# Format: Wild
#
# 1x (0) Forbidden Words
# 1x (1) Potion of Madness
# 1x (1) Psychic Conjurer
# 1x (1) Shadowcloth Needle
# 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# 1x (2) Defias Leper
# 1x (2) Dirty Rat
# 1x (2) Insight
# 1x (2) Seance
# 1x (2) Shadow Visions
# 1x (2) Shadow Word: Death
# 1x (2) Spirit Lash
# 1x (2) Thoughtsteal
# 1x (2) Thrive in the Shadows
# 1x (2) Zephrys the Great
# 1x (3) Brann Bronzebeard
# 1x (3) Cathedral of Atonement
# 1x (3) Handmaiden
# 1x (3) Identity Theft
# 1x (3) Mindrender Illucia
# 1x (3) Murloc Holmes
# 1x (3) Palm Reading
# 1x (3) Prince Renathal
# 1x (3) The Harvester of Envy
# 1x (4) Blademaster Okani
# 1x (4) Hysteria
# 1x (4) Kazakus
# 1x (4) Lorekeeper Polkelt
# 1x (4) Shadow Word: Ruin
# 1x (5) Darkbishop Benedictus
# 1x (5) Loatheb
# 1x (5) Mass Hysteria
# 1x (5) Raza the Chained
# 1x (6) Reno Jackson
# 1x (6) Theotar, the Mad Duke
# 1x (7) Blackwater Behemoth
# 1x (7) Mutanus the Devourer
# 1x (7) Psychic Scream
# 1x (7) Soul Mirror
# 1x (8) Shadowreaper Anduin
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Illucia should probably be replaced by Madame Lazule or Glimmeroot if you don't have her (I don't), but I've been including Illucia just for fun. And to see if I can OTK a Jailer Mecha'thun Warlock.
A few words regarding the Secret Mage matchup you were discussing:
Forbidden Words is an interesting card in the Secret Mage matchup. You can try to use it to proc their Counterspell, but if you are wrong you lose all mana. :) To win you will likely need to draw Reno or Behemoth. Focus on tempo and removal early on (Don't be afraid to play Harvester of Envy or Murloc Holmes on turn 3). Sometimes chipping face and sacrificing some face damage is worth it though if you are confident they have Rigged Faire Game in play and they appear to be running low on steam, but somewhat risky. Shadowcloth Needle can help with this as well as being overall helpful in the matchup. Try to hold on to Psychic Conjurer or other cheap minions to counter Objection, at least when you need to be sure to play a Reno or Behemoth. The Thalnos Spiritlash combo can be useful as well. Try to Seance your Reno if you can. If board is clear, hold on to Zephrys as he should be used for either board clears or healing when low on HP (deck doesn't have a ton of healing). Kill Orion asap, but sometimes you can kill him easier by allowing him to proc at least once (due to Shadow Word: Ruin, Shadowreaper Anduin, and Shadow Word Death). You can use Cathedral of Atonement to help make these removals more efficient as well. If you do draw Polkelt early, it can be useful to have a direct route to your Behemoth, Reno, and board clears, but he is a bit risky as you need be careful about Counterspell and Objection and some of the higher cost cards aren't great in the matchup (Mutanus, Theotar, Darkbishop Benedictus). If you do play Theotar hold on to a cheap spell if you can so you can successfully play Psychic Scream or Soul Mirror and try to time your Shadowreaper Anduin to get rid of those 5-6 attack minions.
So far win rate is 64% overall over 230 games and it's loads of fun. I used this deck to climb to Legend the past couple seasons. Only negative win rate matchup is against Warlock, which is 12-14, primarily due to Curse / Fatigue Warlock. Other win rates are Demon Hunter: 4-1, Druid: 12-9, Hunter: 10-2, Mage: 21-15, Paladin: 7-4, Priest: 29-17, Rogue: 23-12, Warrior: 6-1. As you can see, the deck doesn't necessarily specialize against Mage, but it can beat it and does very well against Rogue and Priest, including Big Priest, which in my opinion is more satisfying to beat than Secret Mage anyways, especially with a control deck.
If you decide to try the deck, I hope you enjoy it and good luck regardless! If you find ways to improve it, I'd be interested to hear that as well.
You are a true bro I'm gonna try it tonight :)
Well it worked incredibly well, even if I had 2 or 3 secret mages who rekted me, I also rekted some :)
Went from D4 to Legend tonight with it
Thanks a lot for this great deck, had a lot of fun with it :)