If you see a post that you find objectionable, report it, it helps keep the forum clean. But be aware people are allowed a lot of latitude.
If you find my posts to be rude, objectionable, or whatever, well, I got tired of writing polite TL; DR (Too Long, Didn't Read) posts at crybaby whiners. So now I just make it short and nasty.
If you find that funny, well and good. If you find that sad, that's even better.
Because raganaros comes in and drops 8 damage without you being able to do jack about it...
Or perhaps its because Ysera's dream cards give people nightmares...
Or just maybe it might be because Jaraxxus can summon 6/6 infernals for 2 mana...
You are foolish if you believe that a good legendary can't completely overtake a game.
I used to see it the same way, but it really sounds as lack of experience. I crafted Rag not long ago, and he seems to have a thing for totems, divine shields and silver hand recruits :P To say that either the board is empty or Rag is gonna hit something useless 90% of the time. Then he gets BGH'd the turn after, and you wasted your entire turn.
Ysera and Jaraxxus require dominant or at least equal board state to drop, because they take your entire turn. And you get a full free turn to burst 15 damage down (Jaraxxus) or you can silence / kill / ignore Ysera. Or you can Faceless, then silence.
It's not impossible for any class to burst 15-25 damage with 10 mana (except the control pallies i think), so understand that while those legendaries have some powerful effects, they do give the opponent a free turn.
So if you had to use your burst damage (force of nature + roar, leeroy, bloodlust, cold blood, w/e) to maintain an equal board and your opponent can afford to drop Ysera and not die the turn after, something went wrong before.
Not to mention the usual "dead card" thing, until turn 10 + jaraxxus is a useless card that might have been a second Hellfire, and you wouldn't have lost to that murloc deck.Usually these infamous legendaries are just the final nail on the coffin, and some matchups are just bad (like midrange druid - handlock, or shaman - face hunter). There's sort of a rock - paper - scissors system, although it doesnt apply to hunters, they just roll over everything :P
Midrange druid has usually good matchups vs aggro decks (if built defensive), or can be an aggro deck itself (token roar version), but generally anti-aggro decks suck vs. control decks, and that's why you hate these big legendaries so much! Because of the way defensive decks are built you usually lack the burst to finish a control deck before he overtakes the game.
I finally got a legendary I have always wanted! (this is the OP btw, needed a name change since dusting Nozdormu....) I got Cenarius in a pack!!!! Added him and my new deck will be posted shortly.
hm. so it looks sort of like an incomplete token deck. im glad you got rid of and replaced some stuff, also totally psyched you picked up cenarius! i definitely recommend replacing 1x power of the wild, 1x starfire, 2x fairie dragon, and 2x twilight drake. Replace them with the 2nd wrath, 1x force of nature, 1x ancient of war, 1x violet teacher, 2x harvest golem, 1x faceless manipulator, 1x sunwalker. i feel like that'll give you some pretty decent results :D
hm. so it looks sort of like an incomplete token deck. im glad you got rid of and replaced some stuff, also totally psyched you picked up cenarius! i definitely recommend replacing 1x power of the wild, 1x starfire, 2x fairie dragon, and 2x twilight drake. Replace them with the 2nd wrath, 1x force of nature, 1x ancient of war, 1x violet teacher, 2x harvest golem, 1x faceless manipulator, 1x sunwalker. i feel like that'll give you some pretty decent results :D
Me too man! Cenarius was literally THE card I always wanted since I started playing (my b-day is may 14th so it feels like an early bday gift from the RNG gods lol) I have some dust now too from a golden epic so I'll add 1x sunwalker, 1x violet teacher and an ancient of war. The golems and faceless will have to wait for now. So stoked though!!!!
Edit: After dusting my twilight drakes and my auctioneers I was able to make the golems as well. All the changes you suggested seemed sound, and now have been implemented. Maybe this season I can finally break top 5 and take a shot at legendary rank!!! Probably not, but I can hope right! I also ditched naturalize now that I feel I can compete with other legendary cards!!! With Cenarius my confidence in my deck is at an all time high!
OP: Hope you remember to breathe between games. You seem pretty psyched. :D
I'll try but this was the card I wanted the most since I began playing during the beta, so to finally get it is just so cool to me. plus its really useful to my style of play so it couldnt have come at a better time. But yes breath in... Ahh.. Breath out.. Lol
Edit: with the golems and cenarius in my deck im beginning to wonder if soul of the forrest might be a better value than power of the wild. Any thoughts?
there is a good thing about nozdormu it is realy good against grim patron warrior because when they wirl wind and stuf they need to wait for them to get charge by there warsong comander. NOZDORMU OP
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Because raganaros comes in and drops 8 damage without you being able to do jack about it...
Or perhaps its because Ysera's dream cards give people nightmares...
Or just maybe it might be because Jaraxxus can summon 6/6 infernals for 2 mana...
You are foolish if you believe that a good legendary can't completely overtake a game.
(Posting as a moderator)
Ahem.
Not directed at anyone in particular.
If you see a post that you find objectionable, report it, it helps keep the forum clean. But be aware people are allowed a lot of latitude.
If you find my posts to be rude, objectionable, or whatever, well, I got tired of writing polite TL; DR (Too Long, Didn't Read) posts at crybaby whiners. So now I just make it short and nasty.
If you find that funny, well and good. If you find that sad, that's even better.
I used to see it the same way, but it really sounds as lack of experience. I crafted Rag not long ago, and he seems to have a thing for totems, divine shields and silver hand recruits :P To say that either the board is empty or Rag is gonna hit something useless 90% of the time. Then he gets BGH'd the turn after, and you wasted your entire turn.
Ysera and Jaraxxus require dominant or at least equal board state to drop, because they take your entire turn. And you get a full free turn to burst 15 damage down (Jaraxxus) or you can silence / kill / ignore Ysera. Or you can Faceless, then silence.
It's not impossible for any class to burst 15-25 damage with 10 mana (except the control pallies i think), so understand that while those legendaries have some powerful effects, they do give the opponent a free turn.
So if you had to use your burst damage (force of nature + roar, leeroy, bloodlust, cold blood, w/e) to maintain an equal board and your opponent can afford to drop Ysera and not die the turn after, something went wrong before.
Not to mention the usual "dead card" thing, until turn 10 + jaraxxus is a useless card that might have been a second Hellfire, and you wouldn't have lost to that murloc deck.Usually these infamous legendaries are just the final nail on the coffin, and some matchups are just bad (like midrange druid - handlock, or shaman - face hunter). There's sort of a rock - paper - scissors system, although it doesnt apply to hunters, they just roll over everything :P
Midrange druid has usually good matchups vs aggro decks (if built defensive), or can be an aggro deck itself (token roar version), but generally anti-aggro decks suck vs. control decks, and that's why you hate these big legendaries so much! Because of the way defensive decks are built you usually lack the burst to finish a control deck before he overtakes the game.
My comments refer mostly to the wild format.
I finally got a legendary I have always wanted! (this is the OP btw, needed a name change since dusting Nozdormu....) I got Cenarius in a pack!!!! Added him and my new deck will be posted shortly.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/50021-oak-dragon
hm. so it looks sort of like an incomplete token deck. im glad you got rid of and replaced some stuff, also totally psyched you picked up cenarius! i definitely recommend replacing 1x power of the wild, 1x starfire, 2x fairie dragon, and 2x twilight drake. Replace them with the 2nd wrath, 1x force of nature, 1x ancient of war, 1x violet teacher, 2x harvest golem, 1x faceless manipulator, 1x sunwalker. i feel like that'll give you some pretty decent results :D
Me too man! Cenarius was literally THE card I always wanted since I started playing (my b-day is may 14th so it feels like an early bday gift from the RNG gods lol) I have some dust now too from a golden epic so I'll add 1x sunwalker, 1x violet teacher and an ancient of war. The golems and faceless will have to wait for now. So stoked though!!!!
Edit: After dusting my twilight drakes and my auctioneers I was able to make the golems as well. All the changes you suggested seemed sound, and now have been implemented. Maybe this season I can finally break top 5 and take a shot at legendary rank!!! Probably not, but I can hope right! I also ditched naturalize now that I feel I can compete with other legendary cards!!! With Cenarius my confidence in my deck is at an all time high!
I'll try but this was the card I wanted the most since I began playing during the beta, so to finally get it is just so cool to me. plus its really useful to my style of play so it couldnt have come at a better time. But yes breath in... Ahh.. Breath out.. Lol
Edit: with the golems and cenarius in my deck im beginning to wonder if soul of the forrest might be a better value than power of the wild. Any thoughts?
there is a good thing about nozdormu it is realy good against grim patron warrior because when they wirl wind and stuf they need to wait for them to get charge by there warsong comander. NOZDORMU OP