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Really strange choices in this thread so far for the most part. King of Beasts is sorta a weird one, some odd stuff going on with the anatomy, but I actually kinda like it. Reminds me of those Durer engravings of the rhinoceros and elephant; not really accurate but expressive in a weird sort of way, idk.

Anyway, Kill Command isn't great. Formally it's okay, but it's pretty generic, has weak storytelling (this is important and often overlooked, I think), and isn't very expressive.

Asymmetrical matchups like aggro vs control are some of the most interesting and exciting hearthstone games I play. Control vs Control matchups are easily some of the worst.

Too bad Warlock can't run Warsong Commander, eh?

Throw a bunch of Zombie Chows, Unstable Ghouls, that 2/5 M A G I C D E T E C T E D guy, Sludge Belchers, Antique Healbots, armorsmiths etc together in a Warrior deck and see what happens. You'll lose to everything else but you'll sure kick the crap out of any face hunters you run into

It's a real bummer that someone can brag openly about griefing and get nine upvotes for it. Doesn't speak well of our community.

Quote from Brian Kibler »

Everyone who has played or watched Hearthstone for any length of time is probably familiar with the community sentiment with respect to aggressive decks. Decks like Warlock Zoo, Hunter, and MechMage are referred to by derogatory nicknames, as are players who choose to use the decks.

The community frustration with regard to these decks has a number of factors, but a huge part of the sentiment comes from how popular they are on the ranked ladder. A few months ago, before the Starving Buzzard nerf, I played against nearly as many Hunters as every other class combined.

This popularity stems from a combination of the power level of the decks themselves (which is an issue outside of the scope of what I’m talking about here), the low cost of building them, and the speed at which the decks can complete games. It’s the latter factor that I’d like to touch on here.

Let’s assume, for a moment, that every class has perfect population distribution on the ranked ladder. That is to say that there is one Hunter for every Mage, one Warlock for every Paladin, etc. This is obviously not true, but just imagine it for the sake of a thought experiment.

Now let’s assume that every class takes an average of ten minutes to play a game, except for Hunter and Warlock, which take five minutes. Now if you jump into the queue, even though there’s a perfect class population balance, you’re much more likely to play against a Hunter or Warlock, simply because at any time there are more Hunters and Warlocks who are available opponents because they finish their games more quickly. More of the total games played include Hunter or Warlock than any of the other classes.

Now imagine that some of those players of other classes realize that Hunters and Warlocks are more efficient at completing games. Imagine that they recognize this is a valuable characteristic on the ranked ladder, since what matters is generating a win-loss differential over time to climb ranks. If you have the same win rate with Hunter or Warlock as with Priest or Warrior, you will get to a higher ranking over the same period of time, simply because you are able to complete more games.

As more players realize this and shift to playing the faster decks, the representation of opponents in the queues further shifts even more toward aggressive decks. This leads to a lower variety of play experiences, and understandable frustration among players who repeatedly run into the same decks.

95% of Zoo decks would be titled "Handlock" and 95% of Handlock decks would be titled "Zoo"

I think the game is in a pretty good state right now in terms of card balance.

One change I would actually support wholeheartedly is making Flamestrike a rare as opposed to a class common. It's just way too warping to the Arena environment right now. Something like 40% of the arena matches I play are against mages.

Quote from TheChiv »

3.Muster for Battle. the value you get from a muster for battle is 7 mana for 3. 3 tokens + a lights justice. this is over a 2 to 1 value and is very extreme. Change. increase cost to 4.

This is a bit like saying Frostbolt is broken because it's equivalent to three mage hero powers (six mana) plus a freeze (ice lance, one mana) so it should cost seven.

Hyp3d and Lothar are the indisputable tier 1 stud muffins; each looks as if he could play the teenage lead of a popular ABC family show. I would be willing to hear an argument that Lifecoach falls in this category as well, though personally I find him more of a tier 1.5 (his demeanor is not quite as cool and collected as the Tier 1 powerhouse duo and he sometimes comes across as a bit manic). He does however get points for being a family man; a bold, bearded man with a boisterous accent who provides for a wife and child is kind of a turn on.

After those three, there is an immediate sharp and precipitous decline in quality, it's barely even worth talking about. Maybe Savj or something. Trump is no knockout in the looks department, but he does shine in the personality department and has a cute sense of humor in a Screech from Saved By the Bell sort of way or something. I think of him as the archetypal perpetually friend-zoned nice guy who has a rough go of it in his early years, but eventually meets a nice girl who is ready to settle down and makes a spectacular Dad. He'll probably end up leading a boy scout troop or something.

Even though you could have worded it different I have to agree with:

• Warsong Commander wasn't the problem, Frothing Berserker was; they should have changed the mechanic that as soon as a minion gets over 3 attack it loses the charge. Even with the nerf now they could atleast drop the mana cost of Warsong Commander to 2. A 2/3 minion that gives your charged minions +1 attack doesn't seem OP to me at 2 mana
• Paladin is becoming a problem, the amount of threats they have is too damn high. On top of that, unlike against Mage & Hunter you cannot play around it's secrets as well since Competitive Spirit puts you on a timer & Noble Sacrifice makes sure Avenge triggers. Personally I would love to see the Light's Justice disappear from Muster for Battle and see Mysterious Challenger's stats lowered to 5/4.

I actually think it's ok that you cannot reliably mulligan against a class tho. I mean, I would like to see each class have atleast 2 different archetype decks (wishful thinking maybe). Till now it was mostly Warlock which was very hard to mulligan seeing as the two most popular decktypes a while ago were zoo and handlock which required a totally different mulligan from your part.

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There is no correct answer in the poll. I feel meta is better now, but that's not one of the choices. I don't believe we are in an aggro meta anymore than we were before.

The last 5 days of a season shouldn't be confused with current meta, last few days of a season are always more aggro than the other 3 and a half weeks.

Actually, meta seems to have slowed down since the nerf, and that is why it is better, we have Fatigue Warrior, Freeze Mage, Control Paladin, many Priest decks, all of them are doing good right now. A few more nerfs, mainly Dr. Boom and Piloted Shredder, and it will get even better.

Maybe change Answer#2 to "The current meta is better," cause that is something I could vote for, but "An aggro meta is the lesser of two evils," not a chance that I'll vote that, or the Patron meta. Hard to get an accurate poll when the correct answer isn't even there. At this point though, with 100 votes already, might just have to remake the poll.

Thank God someone actually made a video like this with just plain, irrefutable evidence. I made a post griping about some Battlecries triggering before effects while some trigger after them and I got a lot of people who actually defended this and said things like I just didn't understand the rules or that there were no inconsistencies "but for niche examples".

The one I still go back to is why a card that is "working as intended" like Blizzard doesn't use the word "then" the way a card like Earth Shock does to clearly separate the damage component from the Freeze component when it says "them". Something like Blizzard's wording is just not proper for the effect which is more akin "Deal 2 damage to all enemy minions; then, freeze all enemy minions" - the way it's worded there's nothing intuitive to suggest that the Freeze component is separate from the damage and it seems non-intuitive that the Spectral Spider or fresh Grim Patron that have been spawned due to the 2 damage of Blizzard would also be frozen by the spell. Instead it says "and freeze them" which seems to imply it's tied directly to the first part of the effect, no?

I'm seriously surprised no ones mentioned Echo of Medivh. I was shocked when I first saw it.

I'd change Dr Boom. His attack is too high. Probably make him a 6/7 or 5/7.

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