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    posted a message on The Meta is Actually Healthy, Contrary to Popular Belief
    Quote from Hooghout >>

    Even vicious S is an opinion, not writings on the wall. Aggro/face decks still dominate and that is called organized imbalance you and I have to deal with.

     and I think you forget that we had two solid month with midrange, not aggro, dominating the game before msog
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    posted a message on The Meta is Actually Healthy, Contrary to Popular Belief

    VS has opinions, but the data is not an opinion... Its data. There are plenty of decks at or above 50% wr, aggro shaman at the top only has 53%wr. Renolock, pirate warrior, dragon warrior, reno mage, aggro shaman, midrange sham, midjade sham, piracle rogue, dragon preist, and jade druid are all part of the meta. Thats sooooo muh better than a month ago with 55%wr midrange shamam with nothing else near it.

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    posted a message on The Meta is Actually Healthy, Contrary to Popular Belief
    Quote from Hooghout >>

    Even vicious S is an opinion, not writings on the wall. Aggro/face decks still dominate and that is called organized imbalance you and I have to deal with.

     VS has opinions, sure. Are they usually right? Sure. Is the data they base their opinions on up for arguement? No it isnt, its data.  Aggro decks have stabalized in the meta right now, midrange is taking advantage of all the aggro decks. The only real opinions VS has had over the past three weeks have all proven to be true and are born out in the data. If you dont understand i can explain further about how they are able to reliably and accurate make the judgements they do based on statistical samplings from the data
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    posted a message on Aggro Shaman is the most popular deck now

    Here i found it for you:

    Me-Edit: I hope you weren't refering to Piracle rogue which is clearly miracle rogue which, while it can be quick, is not an aggro deck.

    Sherman- I was obviously refering to Pirate Rogue, which is definetly an aggro deck, that is why I wrote "Pirate Rogue" bro.

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    posted a message on Aggro Shaman is the most popular deck now
    Quote from Shockii412 >>
    Quote from bobknobslobr >>
    Quote from TheWamts >>
    Quote from bobknobslobr >>

    http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-31/

    @sherman

    Why do you do this to yourself? Pirate rogue isnt even t4 let alone t3. Its not on the list period.

    And there you go assuming im playing the decks you dislike because im calling you out on your weak and groundless, factfree pseudo arguement

     

     Miracle Rogue is technically a Pirate Rogue deck.
    In the same way Freeze Mage is technically a Face Mage deck,
     yes, but he specifically clarified in earlier posta he was talking about pure pirate rogue and not piracle. Which is what makes his statements so ridiculous
    The only thing ridiculous is how immature you are trying to pretend you have the bigger 8==D. 
    Everyone obviously kknows he meant piracle you just have to get all technical and shit.
    Grow up man Deadset. People like you who have nothing better to do but belittle others are what ruin Hearthstones Community.
     read post 45, he clearly says he did not mean piracle. Stop being lazy
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    posted a message on Aggro Shaman is the most popular deck now
    Quote from TheWamts >>
    Quote from bobknobslobr >>

    http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-31/

    @sherman

    Why do you do this to yourself? Pirate rogue isnt even t4 let alone t3. Its not on the list period.

    And there you go assuming im playing the decks you dislike because im calling you out on your weak and groundless, factfree pseudo arguement

     

     Miracle Rogue is technically a Pirate Rogue deck.
    In the same way Freeze Mage is technically a Face Mage deck,
     yes, but he specifically clarified in earlier posta he was talking about pure pirate rogue and not piracle. Which is what makes his statements so ridiculous
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    posted a message on Is Hearthstone in a bad position?
    Quote from notsoclutch >>
    Quote from Tulio90 >>

    The biggest disappointment for me this meta is the only warrior u see is pirate warrior atm. In the past it has patron,controll,dragon etc. The same goes a little bit for warlock which has renolock. I kinda miss the old gods to. Yogg, n,zoth C ,thun are gone already in this meta.

     Control, dragon and patron are all viable on ladder. face warrior just ladders quickly so its a better deck for laddering.  
     at rank 5 and up dragon warrior is exactly as common as pirate warrior. Patron isnt viable. Control is but as you pointed out takes much more time and is thus less appealing
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    posted a message on The Meta is Actually Healthy, Contrary to Popular Belief
    Quote from aTouchofZen >>

    P

     

    TL;DR
    I admit I play those net decks myself, so I can't complain too much, but still it feels disappointing after the rotation and all those new cards released that it hasn't really created a lot of diversity in the meta.

     Read vicous syndicates past three data reports. Particul the most recent one, #31. You couldnt be more wrong
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    posted a message on The Meta is Actually Healthy, Contrary to Popular Belief
    Quote from Railoe >>

    I'm a new player, started about a month ago. I'm about 16-13 in ranked play and this game starts to feel very repetitive, there are 1000 cards playable and yet the game is filled with 3-4 standard deck types, with no real variation. Not sure if i'm stuck in a ''newbie'' zone where people copy paste the decks shown for example here and that's why they are overpopulated decks in the ranks i'm playing at.

    9/10 the opponent is playing 1.jade druid 2.pirate warrior or 3.dragon priest 4.Buff paladin, the 1/10 time is a kazakus/reno mage or sometimes a warlock. Dunno why people don't try to build their own decks instead of just copy paste.

     your experience is actually pretty atypical. Jade druid is quickly disappearing from play, currently i think its at around 6.75% of all decks playef in ranked. The 15 to legend group is mostly shaman, warrior, renolock, and miracle rogue, tho reno mage is quickly becoming more common.
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    posted a message on Aggro Shaman is the most popular deck now

    http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-31/

    @sherman

    Why do you do this to yourself? Pirate rogue isnt even t4 let alone t3. Its not on the list period.

    And there you go assuming im playing the decks you dislike because im calling you out on your weak and groundless, factfree pseudo arguement

     

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    posted a message on Aggro Shaman is the most popular deck now
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
    Quote from bobknobslobr >>
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
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    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
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     yep, rock, paper, scissors is cancer. We should only allow rock vs rock. better yet lets all just uninstall and play chess. Thats ultimately where your conclusions lead mr. F..king genius. So nuanced, so intelligent. Lets deride someone for being insulting even though we can't get through a single post with out being unnecessarily condescending, which is itself insulting. You are truly something, that much is clear.
    Lol, this people... You are so funny. I'm talking about CANCEROUS aggro decks bro, not ALL aggro decks, do you understand the difference, Einstein? Or do I have to repeat the words "cancer" and "cancerous" in every single post I make?
     you seem to do that already. And by your apparent definition of cancer, that includes all viable aggro decks. So, einstein(i hope the irony of your choice to be condescending again is not comepletely lost on you), unless you have an example of a noncancerous aggro deck to offer up i think the conclusions are clear.
    Are you serious, bro? Is that the best thing you can do? Really? Do you even think before posting? Why do you make things so easy for me? :(
    But ok, if you want an answer... Pirate Rogue, a deck from the current meta. :)

    Edit: I hope you weren't refering to Piracle rogue which is clearly miracle rogue which, while it can be quick, is not an aggro deck.

    I was obviously refering to Pirate Rogue, which is definetly an aggro deck, that is why I wrote "Pirate Rogue" bro.
     pirate rogue is not viable, is not part of the meta, and no one plays it. Who is saying silly things now? Only Piracle rogue is doing well. Serious go look at the VS data if you want ( im addressing this mostly to other readers because sherman doesnt care about data).
    Honestly I can't understand why you are even trying to push this further when you know as well as I and everyone else with two eyes and a brain that your gripe is just with pirates and any aggro deck in play right now is going to have the same pirate package that makes you think everything is so "cancerous".
    But the truth is that even though aggro shaman is back on top, this season's meta has been the best by far of the past several seasons and the aggro decks are exactly what was needed to keep the Jade druids from steam rolling your preciously feeble greedy control builds. Once people start playing reno/tempo mage again and jade druid drops out to stop feeding them the aggro decks will settle down a bit.
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    posted a message on Aggro Shaman is the most popular deck now
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
    Quote from bobknobslobr >>
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
    Quote from bobknobslobr >>
     yep, rock, paper, scissors is cancer. We should only allow rock vs rock. better yet lets all just uninstall and play chess. Thats ultimately where your conclusions lead mr. F..king genius. So nuanced, so intelligent. Lets deride someone for being insulting even though we can't get through a single post with out being unnecessarily condescending, which is itself insulting. You are truly something, that much is clear.
    Lol, this people... You are so funny. I'm talking about CANCEROUS aggro decks bro, not ALL aggro decks, do you understand the difference, Einstein? Or do I have to repeat the words "cancer" and "cancerous" in every single post I make?
     you seem to do that already. And by your apparent definition of cancer, that includes all viable aggro decks. So, einstein(i hope the irony of your choice to be condescending again is not comepletely lost on you), unless you have an example of a noncancerous aggro deck to offer up i think the conclusions are clear.
    Are you serious, bro? Is that the best thing you can do? Really? Do you even think before posting? Why do you make things so easy for me? :(
    But ok, if you want an answer... Pirate Rogue, a deck from the current meta. :)

    Edit: I hope you weren't refering to Piracle rogue which is clearly miracle rogue which, while it can be quick, is not an aggro deck.

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    posted a message on Aggro Shaman is the most popular deck now
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
    Quote from bobknobslobr >>
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
    Quote from DirtyRat3000 >>
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
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    Quote from mess >>
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>

    Aggro Shaman and Pirate Warrior are CANCER.

     Wrong. 
     
    Reno is the real cancer.
    The only reason people play hyper aggressive agro is to win before turn 6... why do you need to win before turn 6? Because Reno Jackson. If there was no Reno, we wouldn't see nearly as many hyper aggressive decks.
     Totally agree. When they have Reno on their hand, they happily emote and make stupid plays. They have many taunts and removals but when you manage to kill them they just cry instead of congratulating.
    Really? Why should they congratulate you? For what? For playing a mindless deck? LOL, you have to be kidding...
     Do you like football? Most people hate Jose Mourinho because his team plays to win, not to entertain football fans. When I want to win, I play the winning decks. This game does not reward how good you played but the result. Pirate Warrior is a well working deck. I play Pirate Warrior and do my thing. And you play something requires a lot of intelligence and talent. For what? Just for complaining about the decks you cannot beat.
     Well Played.
    Yeah, I like football and I understand your point. Most people who play with this aggro decks do it because they want to win, that is true, but one thing is just playing with those decks and other is defending them on the forums. You know you are doing something wrong mate and those decks are cancer, at least have the dignity to recognize that, instead of saying silly things about people who use Reno decks. If you really can't win with any other type of deck, I'm fine with that, we are not all equal, but please, don't say silly things to try to justify your actions.
     yep, rock, paper, scissors is cancer. We should only allow rock vs rock. better yet lets all just uninstall and play chess. Thats ultimately where your conclusions lead mr. F..king genius. So nuanced, so intelligent. Lets deride someone for being insulting even though we can't get through a single post with out being unnecessarily condescending, which is itself insulting. You are truly something, that much is clear.
    Lol, this people... You are so funny. I'm talking about CANCEROUS aggro decks bro, not ALL aggro decks, do you understand the difference, Einstein? Or do I have to repeat the words "cancer" and "cancerous" in every single post I make?
     you seem to do that already. And by your apparent definition of cancer, that includes all viable aggro decks. So, einstein(i hope the irony of your choice to be condescending again is not comepletely lost on you), unless you have an example of a noncancerous aggro deck to offer up i think the conclusions are clear.
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    posted a message on Aggro Shaman is the most popular deck now
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
    Quote from DirtyRat3000 >>
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>
    Quote from DirtyRat3000 >>
    Quote from mess >>
    Quote from Sherman1986 >>

    Aggro Shaman and Pirate Warrior are CANCER.

     Wrong. 
     
    Reno is the real cancer.
    The only reason people play hyper aggressive agro is to win before turn 6... why do you need to win before turn 6? Because Reno Jackson. If there was no Reno, we wouldn't see nearly as many hyper aggressive decks.
     Totally agree. When they have Reno on their hand, they happily emote and make stupid plays. They have many taunts and removals but when you manage to kill them they just cry instead of congratulating.
    Really? Why should they congratulate you? For what? For playing a mindless deck? LOL, you have to be kidding...
     Do you like football? Most people hate Jose Mourinho because his team plays to win, not to entertain football fans. When I want to win, I play the winning decks. This game does not reward how good you played but the result. Pirate Warrior is a well working deck. I play Pirate Warrior and do my thing. And you play something requires a lot of intelligence and talent. For what? Just for complaining about the decks you cannot beat.
     Well Played.
    Yeah, I like football and I understand your point. Most people who play with this aggro decks do it because they want to win, that is true, but one thing is just playing with those decks and other is defending them on the forums. You know you are doing something wrong mate and those decks are cancer, at least have the dignity to recognize that, instead of saying silly things about people who use Reno decks. If you really can't win with any other type of deck, I'm fine with that, we are not all equal, but please, don't say silly things to try to justify your actions.
     yep, rock, paper, scissors is cancer. We should only allow rock vs rock. better yet lets all just uninstall and play chess. Thats ultimately where your conclusions lead mr. F..king genius. So nuanced, so intelligent. Lets deride someone for being insulting even though we can't get through a single post with out being unnecessarily condescending, which is itself insulting. You are truly something, that much is clear.
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    posted a message on Aggro Shaman is the most popular deck now
    Quote from LsmileL >>

    Too many retarded cards force to play stupid decks.

    Aggro and its Counters (like dragon priest) both are very simple and unattractive decks.

    If we take away aggro - we are facing Auctioneers into conceal etc or Jade Idols. Also epicly boring and unfair decks.

    Reno decks are the only nice, but only Warlock is competitive. WTF Blizzard ? 

     Reno mage? Yea reno mage. Stop waiting for someone to post an optimal reno mage build for you to net deck and figure it out yourself. All the peices are there and it has the potential to far exceed renolock, now go figure it out since everything else seems to bore you.
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