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Quote from 9Royalwolf6 >>

I am also getting more and more disturbed by this whole rework bamboozle. Lets give em these weeks to see how it actually implements into our life, maybe it is better, maybe not - then we demand changes.

 Why give them weeks when we can clearly calculate that the system is worse?

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Oh christ who the fuck cares? Stick to one thread for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of amateur mathematics club with children spending hours arguing about averages, making up their own numbers and having bitch fits over min/max xp in a flipping card game. 

Play or don't play, it's up to you. If it doesn't work for you, do something else or at least keep all your petty and boring maths debates to one thread. 

 Oh christ who the fuck cares about these complains posts about the fight? Stick to playing the game for crying out loud. This place has descended into some sort of complaing club with children complaining about the real people who stand up and fight for whats right.

Complain or dont complain, its up to you. If this place isn't for you, do something else, or atleast keep all your petty complaining to one thread.

His math: link

He assumes a player play the game an hour a day on average, yet only completes 75% of the dailies. In reality, if you play an hour a day on average it would be closer to 100% of the daily. We can keep the 75% of the weekly quests, since this player might not play every game or be good enough to complete every game modes weekly quests. This player would in the old system get 55 gold an average from dailies and 10-20 gold every hour for playing, depending on fast or slow decks and winrate. So (55 + 15) * 120 = 8400 gold in the old system.

Another assumption is that the player gets 400 xp per hour, which is the max for in match hour. In reality it is closer to 300-350 xp per hour on average. The 1 hour a day player will not play ranked exclusively, so lets say he gets 300 xp per real hour

A third assumption is the xp from achievements. For the duels achievements he assumes that this player, which might be a standard player, will get 11 wins in duels, since 11 wins gives you 9500 xp. I would instead assume that a player that plays for 1 hour a day will probably get around 3 wins, which is 2700 xp.

For the darkmoon achievements his assumption is also wrong. Many of the achievments are tied to legendaries. This player we base the math upon has around 8400 * 0.75 = 6300 gold, since the expansion ends quite early. So this player would have around 3 darkmoon legendaries. Thus I'd estimate he earns half the darkmoon achievements. 12500 * 0.5 is 6250 xp.

Thus the complete math is:

Daily quests: 120 days * 100% * 900 xp = 108000 xp

Weekly quests: 17 weeks * 75% * (2500 + 1750 + 1750) xp = 76500 xp

Playtime: 120 days * 1 hour * 300 xp = 36000 xp

Duels achievments: 850 xp + 900 xp + 950 xp = 2700 xp

Darkmoon achievements: 50% * 12500 xp = 6250 xp

Total xp = 108000 + 76500 + 36000 + 2700 + 6250 = 229450 xp

The first 50 levels requires 196200 xp.

This player would get to level 58, which is as celestelon says. He would get 5400 gold + 16 packs, 2 arena/duel tickets, 2 legendaries and 1 epic card. This is way worse than the 8400 gold he usually gets.

Blizzard has seriosly screwed us

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Quote from Yonas11 >>

Iksar said: Assuming you play the same amount and have the same quest completion rate, you shouldn't earn less gold or non-gold in the new system. In nearly all circumstances you should be earning slightly more gold and more non-gold (packs, etc).

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In reality: https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/245719-math-old-vs-new-reward-system

 

 You realize that you just linked a thread that says their final verdict is that the new system is BETTER for most players right?

 My conclusion was that the new system gives more reward overall, but I have also mentioned that you get less gold, which proves that Blizzard actually lied. I like the new system but I dont try to defend Blizz, they just lied, period.

 Exactly. Blizzard clearly said we should earn slightly more gold, and also get non-gold, in almost all cases. The only one in the scenario in the linked thread that earns more gold is the streamer.

Iksar said: Assuming you play the same amount and have the same quest completion rate, you shouldn't earn less gold or non-gold in the new system. In nearly all circumstances you should be earning slightly more gold and more non-gold (packs, etc).

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In reality: https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/245719-math-old-vs-new-reward-system

Hope we soon get an update on the new reward system since Blizzard LIED to us about it.

He said tavern pass, not battleground perks

Actually we don't know much, since the battlepass they showed was not finalized and thus might be completely different.

You probably haven't downloaded the extra assets that includes golden cards and animations

Wait, explicitly adding the ability to play the game as it was in 2014 is the change that makes it different from what you liked in 2014? I don't follow. 

So what do you dislike about these changes?

Can we get old forsen since it's 2014 every day now?

That is necessary and I hope they balance better the cards than before, some classes like rogue, mage and warrior have great classic sets at the same time paladin and shaman have awful ones and always depending in broken expansion cards to be relevant.

This seems necessary.  We'll have to see what ends up being in their core set.  It could be very good or very bad for the game going forward.  This is their chance to fix things, we'll see if they do.

More deck slots!

Newbies will run amok!

I stopped playing when they announced mecha jaraxus and I only came back a couple of months ago. I was so salty about it.