To everyone who compares this to Spiteful Summoner, yes this is similar in a lot of ways, but there are three key differences that don't make this as op:
1: This already has the nerfed cost of summoner, which stopped the archetype's rampage.
2: This is a mage card, the decks in which this might have been completely broken in are not exactly mage. Even if it's good, it's limited.
3: You can never summon a 10-cost minion with this, except in the fringe case where you have Stargazer Luna already in play and this is your top deck.
And to those who will say that this does not have the constraint of needing to build your deck a certain way. Yes it's true in a way, it is certainly less restrictive. But you still kinda have to, if you want this to summon big things.
I think you misunderstood that video yourself. It's not about the lower card being under the power curve but the new one being above it. (if we go solely by that video's definition)
So far, Framebot is looking to be very powerful in this future meta and has a LOT of other cards that will synergise with it which will make it substantially stronger than other cards that already exist. (exactly as the video describes)
In the end we'll have to wait for the expansion to release and actually see if it'll see play. If it does, it's clearly a power creep. And so far, it looks like it will.
Wouldn't Upgradeable Framebot be a power creep? he's definitely a better version of Am'gam Rager (which, surprisingly enough, isn't even an elemental). Or is it that because it's now in wild only it doesn't count?
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I'd say it already is scary since it can deal 16 to 24 or maybe even more with Feign Death and Emperor Thaurissan shenaningans.
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Nothing stops you from playing King Krush too
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Should the bomb have its own discussion since it is a stand alone card?
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Not necessarily, could be an error on someone's part
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How about a Emperor Thaurissan turn and then turn ten Boommaster Flark and then 2x Feign Death + Void Ripper
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Boommaster Flark + Void Ripper is a nice burst
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As I read the card the only thing I could do was yell "WHAT?!" in a high pitch.
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it costs 9, by the time you're there a lot of these will have been drawn. Costs too much for standard and maybe even wild imo.
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Yes, and? It's still true.
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I agree. Dire Mole still sees play so it's not that farfetched to imagine 2 extra stat points for one mana would not see play.
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To everyone who compares this to Spiteful Summoner, yes this is similar in a lot of ways, but there are three key differences that don't make this as op:
1: This already has the nerfed cost of summoner, which stopped the archetype's rampage.
2: This is a mage card, the decks in which this might have been completely broken in are not exactly mage. Even if it's good, it's limited.
3: You can never summon a 10-cost minion with this, except in the fringe case where you have Stargazer Luna already in play and this is your top deck.
And to those who will say that this does not have the constraint of needing to build your deck a certain way. Yes it's true in a way, it is certainly less restrictive. But you still kinda have to, if you want this to summon big things.
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I think you misunderstood that video yourself. It's not about the lower card being under the power curve but the new one being above it. (if we go solely by that video's definition)
So far, Framebot is looking to be very powerful in this future meta and has a LOT of other cards that will synergise with it which will make it substantially stronger than other cards that already exist. (exactly as the video describes)
In the end we'll have to wait for the expansion to release and actually see if it'll see play. If it does, it's clearly a power creep. And so far, it looks like it will.
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Wouldn't Upgradeable Framebot be a power creep? he's definitely a better version of Am'gam Rager (which, surprisingly enough, isn't even an elemental). Or is it that because it's now in wild only it doesn't count?
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In HS logic that's how it'll work.
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You will simply play a new cube. It copies the card, not the minion in play. In theory... But we all know how this game can be consistent sometimes.