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Quote from LxVaiN >>

Hey there,

this is the first month i'm very close to hitting legend for the first time. But i'm also pretty close to giving up, because it's so exhausting and frustrating. I played about 30-50 games between diamond 3 and 1 and i still didn't reach it. And now i wanted to know what's your experience in climbing to legend rank. Do you have fun or did you just want to get there once? 

And those who made it multiple times: why do you do it?

For me it feels like a horrible experience and i just do it because i always wanted to reach legend since i started playing HS.

 the game is a grind.....bots hit legend there really is nothing else to say. I did it many times....no 2 dollar worth reward would ever make me do it again not worth it. Keep grinding probably take you 100-200 games.  The game is rng man roll the dice and deal with it. 

Quote from Hannya >>

I started playing Legends of Runeterra about 3 weeks ago. I spent a total of $20 on the game, and already own most of the collection.

$14 went to buying my first deck outright using wildcards (Mogwai's Heimerdinger control deck) with no RNG or luck in the purchase. The other $6 went to buying two expedition runs (aka Arena).

Obtained most of the cards through maxing out the weekly chests, the progression milestones, and through repeated value on the expeditions, which is significantly easier, since the runs cap out at 7 wins, allow up to 5 losses, and give you a free second chance if you fail the first time.

The cost I paid was equivalent to an indie game, the progression took about as long as a AAA game, and I got to play a Masters tier deck from the get-go.

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Contrast this to the $90 I spent on the expansion bundle, which only unlocked about 1/5th of the legendaries, and that's with insane highroll on my unpacks. Then on top of that, I still can't craft the deck I want without disenchanting other legendaries.

To add, it'd also take until next xpac to get maybe 1/2th of the remaining collection.

 then go play legends of runeterra. To compare a game with a model based on trying to keep people with money from purchasing all the cards and just winning right away to a game made to make money is pretty ridiculous. You can spend zero dollars on any of the two games in question if you want. Runeterra should just give all the cards to everyone and let them play the game imo, why sell cards at all just sell cosmetic crap if you "care so much" about how your game is perceived. I loaded legends of runeterra spent $5 bucks then found out I have to wait weeks to acquire cards to play the decks I wanted instead of just being able to buy the cards...I logged out and uninstalled the game and won't play it ever again.  The company can choose to cater to whatever customer base they want and unfortunately I'm not in that customer base so I'm not going to be a customer.

The only thing paying gets you in any game like this is the ability to not have to spend countless hours playing it to enjoy it the way you want. Just because I can buy all the cards and someone else can't doesn't mean that I'm automatically going to do better than that person. 

Hearthstone needs new modes and if they dont come out with something along the lines of:

classic only mode

card ban mode 

no mirror matchup mode

gold gambling mode

and a million other ways to play that don't revolve around the same ladder bullshit then the game will remain as stale as it has 1-2 weeks after everyone is bored with the expansion.

I hope they come up with something. I'd like to play the game and have fun with it more but I log in, do the quest and log out. I collect my 9500-10000 gold between expansions and that's it.  Now if I could gamble for gold in best of 5 series and then spend my gold on tokens for gold legendaries of choice or alternate art cards that would be something I would play more for. The ranking ladder is stale boredom imo.

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Quote from Lightsaga >>

I just played agaisn't a diamond player, I added them just to see what rank they were... why is bronze players playing agaisn't diamond players? jesus christ.

 Rank basically defines how much you played. You are pit up against people with similar skill as you.

 so in bronze rank, I'm paired against legend level players like me....sorry dude because if that was the case there would be win-loss win-loss win-loss win-win going on all day like it does in rank 5 legend. I blew through all the ranks and it was no more or less difficult than the old system was. Progression and ranks only drain the pool of players so at rank 5 you aren't playing against a pool of 20k people but a pool of 5k people. That is the whole idea of ranks. You don't sit in bronze rank and get matched against a player of your level within that rank. This is pretty absurd. If that were the case you would only play people within any rank who are as skilled as you are and this would make the ranks meaningless. This means it would in effect be harder for a good player to move out of any rank than say a player who just started playing. The game also matches up the decks regardless of skill. SO if you use a tier-one meta deck you will be matched up against a similar deck.

Don't believe me? Make a deck out of random bullshit cards with no particular synergies or theme and see what deck you get matched against..This deck you matched against will be some jank-ass deck just like the one you made. When new players just make a tier-one deck and jump in they are going to get matched against similar decks. If you can't play the deck and mulligan right and get the cards you are probably going to lose more than you win. I highly doubt you are playing some jank-ass meme deck and getting matched against all tier-one meta decks..it just doesn't happen that way buddy.

Quote from Lightsaga >>

I'm on bronze league yet all I am fighting are players with tier 1 decks that play like robots. No fun decks at all, no funny mistakes, endless amount of galakrond Rogues and highlander mages with 6+ legendaries.

If this new system was supposed to make it more fair, I honestly don't see it, my experience has been the absolute worse. I had way more fun back in rank 5 matches than this lower league bullshit.

Edit: I found a workaround, just auto-concede a bunch to get your "MMR" down. After about 30 games of mostly doing it, I am mostly fighting fair decks now and I'm enjoying being in Silver. Its quite sad that it had to come to this but gotta do the workarounds for such a feel bad system.

 This ranked system is nothing more than the same system with a different progression visual to give the players a more immediate reward and psychological effect of being better than another player because of the "metal" tier names.

5 tiers with 10 ranks inside each tier

25-21 bronze           

20-16 silver

15-11 gold

10- 6 diamond

5- 1 platinum 

LEGEND

For every 2 levels inside the "metal" rank think of it as the next numerical rank of the old system....25 is 10-9 --24 is 8-7 and so on and so forth.

instead of having to get 3 stars to get from 25-24 a player is given a star bonus based on his former rank. so this in effect gives a player who can remember the cards in his deck and what he needs to answer a turn 4  4/5 yeti from the other player the ability to "skip" these baby levels and move on quite quickly. I went to platinum rank really fast and have my rank 5 for the month and I'm done.  The game matches you against similar decks and tries to keep the win-rate matchup as close to a 50/50 coinflip as it can. The whole idea of this system is to get players who play at a rank 5-legend level the ability to zoom past these starter ranks in a few games. I think I won 4 games and I was in silver already.  

Rank 5 is legend rank for people like me who won't sit and grind the rest of the way for nothing. Players like me who own every card in the game and already have the legend card-back don't care about dust because the time invested and the boredom of it isn't worth it for me, even with the new rewards.

The system is as fair as it can be. If you are stuck in bronze rank it is not because the game matches you up against decks you cannot possibly beat its because you just haven't played enough to know how to progress out of the bronze rank. You should win sooner or later based on sheer rng even if you play the deck wrong, it is just going to take you longer.

Blizzard just changed it to copy everyone else who has the same system because, god forbid, they come up with something original.  They can give the illusion they actually changed it without really changing anything. This is typical of Activision and shouldn't surprise anyone who has used their products. 

Quote from user-31021151 >>

Will there be free packs for watching? That's all I wanna know.

No packs - no watch. Simple as.

 No truer words were spoken about any of these events. Watch? I minimize it on a computer I don't use and don't even look at it. A pretty bad state of affairs when you have to give away stuff to have anyone even look at it.  I shouldn't even give blizzard the IP so they can charge for advertising which is why they hold these events in the first place. 

When will these players wake up and just have their own tournaments and sponsors and cut out the corporation altogether?

You don't need a corporation and mindless commentary by youtube nobodies to give credibility to the outcome. 

Quote from Baldarich >>

You can't really make decks in this game. Just copy paste a tier 1 deck like everyone else. 

 who has time to waste putting together a deck based on synergies and then playing it for hours and tweaking it to tailor the cards against the other decks you play......nobody so yeah this is what most people do.  why should I waste my time to arrive at the same solution? I let other people do the boring part then I just pilot the cards to wins. With sites like hsreplay the game has become nothing but copy paste and then look at what cards to mulligan for based on wins. You get the cards you win more than you lose...thats the game if you cant deal with it then i guess dont play. this isnt rocket science.

I'm sitting on 29k dust and will be opening 350 packs... ill make the best cards in the new xpan gold like I always do.  I don't wish I just do.

pkay the brawl with a dupe account and dont deal with the community. They cant figure it out and wont figure it out so dont waste your time. pathetic brawl if you have to play with a random person...i feel sorry for you

in a week everyone will be bored and crying for nerfs...this cycle has been going on since 2014... The meta will be stable in about 3-4 days and standard will be dull as it has been for quite a long time.

Enjoy the voice acting and art....

Warnerve#1478

NA

trade only , yes you go first!

playing now!

warnerve#1478

NA

trade only YES

you go first ....

playing now

amazing this happened never knew a thing about it and the decks are the same we see every day with some tourney cards tossed in, amazing just amazing