anybody with a brain and runs bomb/control warrior can easily play around this deck. Ladder is filled with warrior, so it would take above average play and above average RNG to climb with ladder. Can't wait to use this deck once I'm rank 5 though. 4 more stars and you'll see me play this too
Play around using Togwaggle's scheme on Tess, how exactly? I can't really remember the last time I lost to a Control Warrior playing this deck. Bomb warrior is a difficult matchup, even favored on his side if he draws the Dr Boom duo early on. The reason Tess rogue is not played this much is because there are many Tempo Rogues on ladder. Face a tempo rogue and you instantly lose.
If you do not spamm constandly when playing a pure smorc deck, you do not know what honor is!
Greetings traveller!
Man, how much I love being spammed by BM aggro players and not respond at all, until I manage to make a come back in the match where I bombard him/her with emotes. Do you know what 70% of them does? Rage-quit(your opponent left)
OUTSTANDING!
Even more than Elon Musk's plan to inhabit Mars, I am a Prodigy, I know it ! xD
If you do not spamm constandly when playing a pure smorc deck, you do not know what honor is!
Greetings traveller!
Man, how much I love being spammed by BM aggro players and not respond at all, until I manage to make a come back in the match where I bombard him/her with emotes. Do you know what 70% of them does? Rage-quit(your opponent left)
Meh, I clearly doubt that the power level of token druid has "declined that much to become trash" or that "more optimized decks" have been created.
To base my point, according to hsreplay, the top tier1/tier2 decks, are decks that have negative win rates against token druid.
The reason that token druid is played less now, is because HS community (the majority of it) is netdeckers, and since Mech aggro hunter seem more powerful right now, they have moved from token druid to it. (well, this deck has also the issue of card draw and so on like token druid. and it loses to token druid). So if I guess the cycle of life will repeat itself: Nerf threads about Mech aggro hunter, counter decks to it, threads that prove that it's trash level and so on...
Tempo rogue tier 2? really? I love playing this archetype but it's not tier 2. 50% win rate against zoo? really? it's like 35-40%. Control /Dragon warrior a bad matchup for this deck? really? I have added a togwaggle's scheme and I go infinite Tess. Can't remember the last time I lost to a warrior except to a Bomb warrior which may be even favorite in the matchup.
I have noticed other inconsistencies as well.And there are decks emerging that challenge these "meta decks" so the meta is far from stable. For example Chef Nomi priest , kills control warrior. They can't deal with 3 Nomis, turn after turn, except if they have a godlike hand of removals and many minions on board before you play the first Nomi.(which happens while they have 10-11 cards on deck, so they should have drawn both brawls until then). (lost to 1, crushed 5 control warriors yesterday, on my first attempt with this deck).
In my opinion it's too early to conclude anything about the meta.
Removing mech tag from devastator and dynomatic would be nerf enough. The fact that they gain rush and u can discover them put warr over the top.
All other suggestions are dumb or salty
Listen to the almighty god of HS, all of us who proposed nerfs to Elysianna(which the competitive players are begging for nerf especially in competitive format/tournaments) and other cards, are dumb. I just felt an enlightment from your comment. Just reading your post has raised my IQ to 20 from absolut zero that is right now, thanks
Source?
Firebat has spoken about it in a video about the WORST tournament meta ever, Kolento too, accusing warrior about it. Go search it in youtube, it will be one of the most recent results ;)
WORST tournament meta ever* to clarify that, he was speaking about specialist format, where they have to play with 3 decks from same class, and since warrior is so popular right now and control warrior is the strongest of the archetypes out there, he described the 1hour duration matches between control mirrors. I totally agree , they should ban Elysianna from Specialist format especially.
How does that relates with standard format or with the card being too powerfull? Wizzbang is also banned in tournaments.
First of all, if you read again, Firebat spoke about this in specialist format, Kolento about Standard. Second, a card doesn't need to be OP to be imbalanced. Elysianna creates 1 hour games and that's unhealthy for the game in general. Control matchups are cool in general , but coming down to multiple Elysiannas, it is boring.
Removing mech tag from devastator and dynomatic would be nerf enough. The fact that they gain rush and u can discover them put warr over the top.
All other suggestions are dumb or salty
Listen to the almighty god of HS, all of us who proposed nerfs to Elysianna(which the competitive players are begging for nerf especially in competitive format/tournaments) and other cards, are dumb. I just felt an enlightment from your comment. Just reading your post has raised my IQ to 20 from absolut zero that is right now, thanks
Source?
Firebat has spoken about it in a video about the WORST tournament meta ever, Kolento too, accusing warrior about it. Go search it in youtube, it will be one of the most recent results ;)
WORST tournament meta ever* to clarify that, he was speaking about specialist format, where they have to play with 3 decks from same class, and since warrior is so popular right now and control warrior is the strongest of the archetypes out there, he described the 1hour duration matches between control mirrors. I totally agree , they should ban Elysianna from Specialist format especially.
Removing mech tag from devastator and dynomatic would be nerf enough. The fact that they gain rush and u can discover them put warr over the top.
All other suggestions are dumb or salty
Listen to the almighty god of HS, all of us who proposed nerfs to Elysianna(which the competitive players are begging for nerf especially in competitive format/tournaments) and other cards, are dumb. I just felt an enlightment from your comment. Just reading your post has raised my IQ to 20 from absolut zero that is right now, thanks
I haven't voted but I want to ask the OP a question. Let's say that 1st of August, all classic cards become free and are added to each and everyone's card collection. Cool, who would deny it. But this comes without a notice. So, I, go in 31st of July and buy 40packs to obtain cards that I am missing. Will you refund me? Will Blizzard give me back my 50 euros? This is not gonna happen, ever.
So instead of putting UNREALISTIC situations in poll, let's discuss about the dust refund from the cards. If the value of dusting a card, becomes half of the value to craft it(right now it's about 20-25% depending on card rarity) and if the golden cards were giving away double the amount of dust(at least from common to epic) , then this would allow people to disenchant/recycle between cards far more easily
I can't understand one of all things mentioned here. How are people defending Archivist Elysianna? For me it's a cool card that SHOULD have been either 9 or 10 mana from the beginning to cancel the bounce back effects and also leave the opponent the chance to remove her in the following turn. So long it's used on Control Warrior mainly and a little on Control Shaman.
But I can see it being played in some Control Resurrect Priest with Spirit of the Dead and Seance. Goodbye world then.
Apart from this "nerf" I don't think that anything else is needed in Warrior. I place my bet that the "magic carpet" will be nerfed, and I intend to craft it as golden, as well as cards from Token Druid(Acornbearer? ) and Tempo Rogue?
Also I am betting off topic, that Mount giant(busted with Conjurer's Calling) and Malygos will be moved to HOF next year
I have never played competively Wild and I don't think I will, with all these broken decks. If I want to see wild cards, I go there at my precious 23 to 25 rank and play Tess rogue. But as for losing to turn 4, I actually lost countless times to odd pala turn 5, especially before level up nerf, so I can understand the frustration
By that point my Togwaggles scheme was loaded to make 14 copies... I copied 14 Shirvallah's and then did Surrender to Madness that I had discovered before. Needless to say, Facing 14 9/7 Shirvallas, the opponent conceded after 2 rounds(he had already played Elysianna and brewmaster on Elysianna)
If you ever see this thread, I hope you have no bad feelings xD
Ι don't really care about the hero power, as it is randomized each turn, only 2 mana 7 armor seems a little off-balance.
The fact that makes Dr Boom so powerful is that it makes mechs have rush. But if you nerf this ability, it will turn from a very good card, to a very shitty one. So I believe that the card shouldn't be nerfed. Blizzard should just print slightly more better cards for other classes struggling right now and more shitty for the warrior at the new expansion, since now in control matchups, only Shaman with Hagatha has realistic chances to win in a prolonged fatigue game, beside Control Warrior mirror.
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Play around using Togwaggle's scheme on Tess, how exactly? I can't really remember the last time I lost to a Control Warrior playing this deck. Bomb warrior is a difficult matchup, even favored on his side if he draws the Dr Boom duo early on. The reason Tess rogue is not played this much is because there are many Tempo Rogues on ladder. Face a tempo rogue and you instantly lose.
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Even more than Elon Musk's plan to inhabit Mars, I am a Prodigy, I know it ! xD
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Tesspionage Rogue, Infinite Pogo Rogue, Jepetto Mage, Beast Druid, Vargoth Secret Hunter, Vargoth Buff Paladin(only playing Standard)
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Man, how much I love being spammed by BM aggro players and not respond at all, until I manage to make a come back in the match where I bombard him/her with emotes. Do you know what 70% of them does? Rage-quit(your opponent left)
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Meh, I clearly doubt that the power level of token druid has "declined that much to become trash" or that "more optimized decks" have been created.
To base my point, according to hsreplay, the top tier1/tier2 decks, are decks that have negative win rates against token druid.
The reason that token druid is played less now, is because HS community (the majority of it) is netdeckers, and since Mech aggro hunter seem more powerful right now, they have moved from token druid to it. (well, this deck has also the issue of card draw and so on like token druid. and it loses to token druid). So if I guess the cycle of life will repeat itself: Nerf threads about Mech aggro hunter, counter decks to it, threads that prove that it's trash level and so on...
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Well the guys there must be trolling, at least.
Tempo rogue tier 2? really? I love playing this archetype but it's not tier 2. 50% win rate against zoo? really? it's like 35-40%. Control /Dragon warrior a bad matchup for this deck? really? I have added a togwaggle's scheme and I go infinite Tess. Can't remember the last time I lost to a warrior except to a Bomb warrior which may be even favorite in the matchup.
I have noticed other inconsistencies as well.And there are decks emerging that challenge these "meta decks" so the meta is far from stable. For example Chef Nomi priest , kills control warrior. They can't deal with 3 Nomis, turn after turn, except if they have a godlike hand of removals and many minions on board before you play the first Nomi.(which happens while they have 10-11 cards on deck, so they should have drawn both brawls until then). (lost to 1, crushed 5 control warriors yesterday, on my first attempt with this deck).
In my opinion it's too early to conclude anything about the meta.
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First of all, if you read again, Firebat spoke about this in specialist format, Kolento about Standard. Second, a card doesn't need to be OP to be imbalanced. Elysianna creates 1 hour games and that's unhealthy for the game in general. Control matchups are cool in general , but coming down to multiple Elysiannas, it is boring.
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Firebat has spoken about it in a video about the WORST tournament meta ever, Kolento too, accusing warrior about it. Go search it in youtube, it will be one of the most recent results ;)
WORST tournament meta ever* to clarify that, he was speaking about specialist format, where they have to play with 3 decks from same class, and since warrior is so popular right now and control warrior is the strongest of the archetypes out there, he described the 1hour duration matches between control mirrors. I totally agree , they should ban Elysianna from Specialist format especially.
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Listen to the almighty god of HS, all of us who proposed nerfs to Elysianna(which the competitive players are begging for nerf especially in competitive format/tournaments) and other cards, are dumb. I just felt an enlightment from your comment. Just reading your post has raised my IQ to 20 from absolut zero that is right now, thanks
1
I haven't voted but I want to ask the OP a question. Let's say that 1st of August, all classic cards become free and are added to each and everyone's card collection. Cool, who would deny it. But this comes without a notice. So, I, go in 31st of July and buy 40packs to obtain cards that I am missing. Will you refund me? Will Blizzard give me back my 50 euros? This is not gonna happen, ever.
So instead of putting UNREALISTIC situations in poll, let's discuss about the dust refund from the cards. If the value of dusting a card, becomes half of the value to craft it(right now it's about 20-25% depending on card rarity) and if the golden cards were giving away double the amount of dust(at least from common to epic) , then this would allow people to disenchant/recycle between cards far more easily
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I can't understand one of all things mentioned here. How are people defending Archivist Elysianna? For me it's a cool card that SHOULD have been either 9 or 10 mana from the beginning to cancel the bounce back effects and also leave the opponent the chance to remove her in the following turn. So long it's used on Control Warrior mainly and a little on Control Shaman.
But I can see it being played in some Control Resurrect Priest with Spirit of the Dead and Seance. Goodbye world then.
Apart from this "nerf" I don't think that anything else is needed in Warrior. I place my bet that the "magic carpet" will be nerfed, and I intend to craft it as golden, as well as cards from Token Druid(Acornbearer? ) and Tempo Rogue?
Also I am betting off topic, that Mount giant(busted with Conjurer's Calling) and Malygos will be moved to HOF next year
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I have never played competively Wild and I don't think I will, with all these broken decks. If I want to see wild cards, I go there at my precious 23 to 25 rank and play Tess rogue. But as for losing to turn 4, I actually lost countless times to odd pala turn 5, especially before level up nerf, so I can understand the frustration
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Just played my most meme game ever....Tess Rogue with a mix of Heistbarron Togwaggle, and his scheme , against a control warrior.
He discovered a Weaponized Pinata from the Delivery Drone, then Weaponized Pinata gave him Shirvallah.
By that point my Togwaggles scheme was loaded to make 14 copies... I copied 14 Shirvallah's and then did Surrender to Madness that I had discovered before. Needless to say, Facing 14 9/7 Shirvallas, the opponent conceded after 2 rounds(he had already played Elysianna and brewmaster on Elysianna)
If you ever see this thread, I hope you have no bad feelings xD
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Ι don't really care about the hero power, as it is randomized each turn, only 2 mana 7 armor seems a little off-balance.
The fact that makes Dr Boom so powerful is that it makes mechs have rush. But if you nerf this ability, it will turn from a very good card, to a very shitty one. So I believe that the card shouldn't be nerfed. Blizzard should just print slightly more better cards for other classes struggling right now and more shitty for the warrior at the new expansion, since now in control matchups, only Shaman with Hagatha has realistic chances to win in a prolonged fatigue game, beside Control Warrior mirror.
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I want more life advices from the grandmaster of HS . Just not playing a deck isn't so much vital info for me