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Quote from fabjx >>

As if Tickatus wasn't total braindead too. And the way you think is as well. Control decks designed to destroy other control decks is an idiotic concept. It is like cannibalizing control so that aggro can break free undisturbed. Retardedness at its finest

I already explained how tickatus is more of an anti-combo card than an anti-control card, which is what it is supposed to be. Control is weak against combo decks so tickatus answers that problem perfectly. But again, I explained this in my earlier post so I guess youre brain dead while reading, as well as while playing hearthstone decks you copied and pasted from google.

Tickatus is one of my favorite cards because I love burning my opponents 16-attack kingsbanes and their wretched tillers. Sorry bro but f**k your deck that you copy and pasted off the internet. Specifically why I play tickatus, so I can watch my brain dead opponents playing rez priest cry when I burn their spell stone and 9 mana rez card (forgot the name). And most of the time he doesn’t win the game on the spot against a control deck, more against a combo deck that has combo pieces in which case, that is exactly what tickatus’s effect is supposed to be, a combo tech in a strong control deck; which is control’s weakness. and I think he accomplishes that role brilliantly. One of my favorite cards hands down, next to lorewalker cho and nozdormu (the classic). People that say he’s bad design dont understand design, especially if their argument is that he’s an anti-control card.

Although I agree with you that this community has gotten way more toxic than it used to be over the years, queue into a game of R6 if you want to see real toxicity. Just squelch and concede if they rope. Dont give them the exp they’re so desperately trying to acquire.

The record is turn 1, they play double embiggen and I concede

My brother was having this problem on his apple device but it’s like an iPhone 6 lol 

Did it on the first try, didn’t even realize people were having difficulty lol. Found the whole thing to be pretty elementary tbh. 

It’s not the devs were trying to get the attention of its losers who play DH. Forehead af

I was replying to Runes. In his response he says that “balance isn’t the issue” or is a “non-issue” to the scrub bc they will complain anyway no matter what tactic is used. Which I fundamentally disagree with.

You literally restated my point of view with the slight alteration of your view on “balance isn’t the problem.” Which I can somewhat agree with but it also has its issues. You say the scrub will always complain no matter what but that’s like me saying I’ll complain when I lose to a meme deck just as much if I were to lose to an aggro DH. This view is incorrect because one obviously is more “overpowered” than the other which is a definite problem, but not according to you. You say scrubs will complain no matter what which is somewhat what the article was saying but I took it differently. I took It as saying they will complain at “cheap” tactics. I can understand how you say the scrub sees any tactic used against them as “cheap” and will always complain but that (I hope) is a very small portion of the population that can complain about losing to a shitty meme deck as much as when they lose to DH. If you think playing to win has nothing to do with balance you are sorely mistaken my friend. Playing to win literally means to implement tactics that give you the best shot at winning, which is to use the so called “best” tactics in the game which scrubs will see as “overpowered” but that’s because they usually are. There’s a reason nobody respects people that play DH or rez priest.

I might’ve had a slight different takeaway from the article but that doesn’t mean my argument is invalid. And anyhow, my response was also a partial response to the author’s point a view which I found flawed as well, so why would I aim to summarize an argument I didn’t agree with? No I gave my takeaway and stated my opinion. Believe it or not, alternative opinions are possible to have 

Quote from Popeye123 >>

 No one here is going to world championships, like chill on the competition and have fun

I did read the article mate, although it wasn’t necessarily his main argument I was commenting on (more about his use of the term scrub which I found to be a weird usage of the term), but now I guess I will. His argument was that people who complain about cheap tactics and refuse to implement them because (for lack of a better phrase) they are “morally above” using said “cheap” tactic are “scrubs” and should hop on the bandwagon of repetitive, boring tactics. Which is.... not a valid argument. It is in fact a terrible one. For example, people like me who hit legend once and now only play home brews for fun, play games such as hs to have FUN. The only goal I have while playing any game is to have fun, and obviously that involves winning and completing stuff, but it also doesn’t have to. I’ve lost plenty games of hs where I still had fun. I’ve also run around COD quick scoping averaging a .65 k/d ratio (mw3 days) which is terrible, but boy did I have fun. The argument the article gave made it seem like the sole point of playing games is to win, no matter what boring, overplayed, bs tactics you have to employ to do so. As long as you win. And that the loser is in the wrong because you used lame, repetitive tactics while they tried to interact and have fun in the game. That is a very poor perspective to have towards games in my opinion. I can agree with your implementation of this type of argument to real life in school, careers, etc. but games are for fun. People who sacrifice having fun and interacting with opponents  for playing brain dead aggro DH just for their W/L ratios are the real scrubs. Fooling themselves thinking dragging face to opposite face over and over again is as fun as the game can get, because they get to hear a triumphant jingle at the end of the game. If the deck ain’t fun, idc if it has a 100% win rate, you wouldn’t catch me playing it. And of course, fun is subjective, but I cant imagine it being as subjective as dragging a cursor and clicking on a picture for 5 turns, yet I am proved wrong everyday I run into DHs and wild Odd Pallys. The people that seriously implement this “art of winning” into something as arbitrary as video games like hs really need to get a grip and let loose a little. Have a beer or something. No one here is going to world championships.

and it’s not like aggro style is the epitome of boredom because it’s not. I have a zoolock deck I made with renounce darkness and lore walker cho that is a blast and still upholds a 59% win rate currently and has gotten me to legend once before the new expansion and gets me comfortably to d5 each season I’ve played it, but at least it has some sort of interactivity and “fun” ability. I build boards, strengthen boards, steal opponents spells (people quake in the presence of cho, have even gotten insta concedes on priests and mages), and even have the option to go full random for max fun (winning off renounce darkness is the best feeling). But People who netdeck DH have no creativity or ability to understand anything other than winning. It’s sad really, I pity those people.

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Quote from KingOfKings >>

There’s a great essay on “the scrub mentality” that the op ought to read: https://sirlin.squarespace.com/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub

In brief, a scrub is someone who handicaps himself in a game because he believes that some strategies are “cheap” and thus it’s beneath his dignity to employ them. The scrub denies himself the use of the strategy, and becomes frustrated when he sees others succeed by it.

The OP is taking precisely this attitude toward aggro decks and speaks pejoratively of those who play them. In an aggro meta, this is self-defeating.

You may not enjoy playing aggro, you might not like the game when it’s dominated by aggro decks, and in that situation maybe you should simply play something else. I’m not going to tell you that you have to play aggro and like it. But don’t put down other players simply because they’re exploiting a successful strategy.

 Only a literal ****** could formulate such a stupid stance.  Literally all you said was "fall in line or gtfo" which is anti-consumer corporate propaganda bullshit.

 I couldn’t agree more

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Quote from KingOfKings >>

There’s a great essay on “the scrub mentality” that the op ought to read: https://sirlin.squarespace.com/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub

In brief, a scrub is someone who handicaps himself in a game because he believes that some strategies are “cheap” and thus it’s beneath his dignity to employ them. The scrub denies himself the use of the strategy, and becomes frustrated when he sees others succeed by it.

The OP is taking precisely this attitude toward aggro decks and speaks pejoratively of those who play them. In an aggro meta, this is self-defeating.

You may not enjoy playing aggro, you might not like the game when it’s dominated by aggro decks, and in that situation maybe you should simply play something else. I’m not going to tell you that you have to play aggro and like it. But don’t put down other players simply because they’re exploiting a successful strategy.

 As far as i’m concerned, scrubs are people who are too bad to construct their own deck, so they take to the internet to find someone to do that job for them. They find a deck that my dog could pilot with the highest win rate aka DH, and craft the deck and start oppressing ladder so they can feel accomplished about themselves. A good player can construct their own deck to win and have fun. If you play DH youre a scrub sorry homie.

Imagine playing DH or wild rez priest and thinking youre not a scrub. You look like a nurse in those scrubs bro

Quote from Rohriant >>

Come on, Yep, accusing someone in discussion to be get paid as a spy is clearly an attack. You doesn't have to be sensitive to know it. And then change the course discussion to attack his method of elaborating? To criticize the wall of text? That so low..

Discussion's spotlight should not be about the motive or the method or who was talking, discussion's spotlight should be the thing that matters. We should respect every opinion and count every facts brought to the table.

How if, that shadowrisen refuse to hear your thoughts about the game because you can't even make a proper paragraph to elaborate. You should not join the the discussion. Doesn't it feels as an attack to you, yep?

But no, he not do that or attack your persona in any other way. He instead elaborate his point again and again and counter your argument. Which is very noble thing to have in discussion. I can't be that patience. That's a patience of real life lawyer for sure.

 At least shadowrisens walls of text were legible and had correct grammar, this right here is just cancer