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If youre under rank 10 then dont worry about your deck cause thats not the problem.

 I dont mean to sound mean but you skill is almost certainly the problem at that rank. Its easy to make it to atleast rank 10 with basically any deck. Its more important that instead of switching decks whenever you have trouble you focus on the deck your playing and get better at that deck and just the game in general. Constant changing of decks will likely just stagger your learning.

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I voted yes, because it's probably closer to my viewpoint than "no" is. I don't think they need to do away with animations, but the turn timer should pause while animations are processing. 

This is actually reasonable.

So on his turn you just sit there with nothing happening while his animations are playing??? That sounds awful tbh and would make the game more boring.

Mostly though your idea is ridiculous. The turn timers are made with animations in the game and you want to just have an extra long turn and like you said that basically forces people to turn them off. Its hardly an option anymore. Its just a game without animations which is one of the big draws of HS.

The worst idea you had is that it subtracts you turn time from the other player if he has animations on. Thats honestly borderline cheating and easily abuseable. Pick a ton of cards with long animations hit end turn and you opponent is on the clock before their turn even starts.

How would this work though? Say you disable the animations and another player youre playing against doesnt. What happens? The game is just frozen on your screen while animations play out for him? Your choice to not have animations overrides his choice to allow animations?

Honestly if youre short on dust its better to just craft Doomhammer and use that with Rockbiter for your burst.

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I play Hearthstone because I enjoy a quick game during a coffee break or something. I already have other time demanding games I could be playing.

I don't think I'm in the minority. This is a major factor in this game's success and why your suggestion will never happen.

I agree that plenty of people like it fast paced... but thats why you leave casual alone. Blizzard seems to want this to be a competitive game and having a game mode like Ranked thats supposed to be where competitive people go seems like it should be treated as such.

Why dont they leave Casual as it is and make Ranked a best of three with an 8 card sideboard (number of cards can be changed if thats not good). AFTER each round you can sideboard in cards to help that matchup (so can they).

It seems like this would solve so many problems people have with the game.

-Makes Casual an actual different game mode that might attract different players.

-Makes its easier to add tech to you deck thats generally useless against most decks.

-Make card variety increased since alot of the cards that see 0 play due to the fact theyre far too narrow (and in all honesty seem like theyre designed as sideboard cards). Also makes the cards you open more worthwhile. Imagine a world where cards like Light's Champion, Hemet Nesingwary, etc are all popular cards due to having new life in sideboards.

-I would imagine it would make the game healthier over all since cancer decks wouldnt be around as much since people could run cards for just that deck without it being a dead card in all other matchups. This would make the game balance better since people can hold each other in check better.

-More strategy.

Just seems like it would be a big benefit with little downside. The only thing I can see maybe being a downside is the games will take longer... but honestly I like that so its not even a downside to me.  But thats also why casual stays the same. If you want a fast paced game experience you play Casual, if you want to truly see who is better you play Ranked.

Just my 2 cents.

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The sleeper card of the set that nobody thought it would be this good. In tight contention with Totem Golem, for the best common card in TGT.

1. Lifecoach evaluated it prior to TGT and said it is good and likely playable on a competitive level.

2. It is a rare. 

3. Tuskarr totemic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Totem golem. Totem Golem isn't even that good. Just ok.

Tuskar Totemic is good because of Totem Golem though.... If it couldnt summon a 3/4 it would be average.

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ofc they have problems with servers being overloaded, when at launch like 50x normal amount of ppl tries to connect at the same time, u dont have to be braniac to figure this out and no need to create QQ topics about it man ... its not only blizz's problem, its every game's/company's problem with such a huge player base.

Honestly what otehr games (non blizzard) have this problem? Ive played ton of games and this is very rare outside of Blizzard. It happens sure but not commonly.

Like someone else said, idk why they dont just launch at like 3am or something since so many people would be asleep and the amount that long on would slowly increase as people wake up (as other probably log off freeing up room), instead of making it in the middle of the day when everyone is ready.

Who freaking cares, Blizzard know why, otherwise they wouldn't do it, get a brain.

I love comments like this... dont be such a fanboy. Literally anyone can make a bad decision. Not only can they everyone does and will again including your precious Blizzard. The only bad thing is when no one questions it and lets it happen without bringing up improvements.

If everyone was like you we would still be stuck in the stone age because you get mad if anyone suggests a better way to do anyhting.

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ofc they have problems with servers being overloaded, when at launch like 50x normal amount of ppl tries to connect at the same time, u dont have to be braniac to figure this out and no need to create QQ topics about it man ... its not only blizz's problem, its every game's/company's problem with such a huge player base.

Honestly what otehr games (non blizzard) have this problem? Ive played ton of games and this is very rare outside of Blizzard. It happens sure but not commonly.

Like someone else said, idk why they dont just launch at like 3am or something since so many people would be asleep and the amount that long on would slowly increase as people wake up (as other probably log off freeing up room), instead of making it in the middle of the day when everyone is ready.

Golden Mistcaller!!!!

But actually I crafted it since I have so it prob doesnt really count. Didnt open any packs yet since i have the dust to craft all the cards I want right now.

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i only bought the 2 adventures and im playing since december 2014. i have 15 legendaries almost every deck existing and now for TGT almost 3 k spare dust. i havent bought a single pack yet and i have decks like wallet warrior..... f2p is viable if you spend some time to the game every day. i wouldnt buy packs ever..... expansions are fine every 4-6 months 20$ isnt much but packs are way too expensive with 60$ you can buy 60 packs but with the same money you can buy a top real game like fallout 4 so i dont think its worth it.

the other problem about buying packs is that after a point where you collected almost all rare-common cards you wanted from the set you will start opening dust packs. cause you may need some legendaries or epics from the set still but its unlikely to open them. 

So your saying that F2P is viable, if you started playing a year ago, and spend some time every day to keep up with the daily quests? ( not trying to troll just trying to understand )

That's not what i call Free-2-Play and kind of proves that for new players who want a decent collection it's a really expensive game.

That's exactly my idea of F2P.  Some people take the easy way out by spending money, everyone else will have to work hard to get the full value out of the game if they want to enjoy it without spending a dime.  You don't expect a F2P player to get all the goodies in the game just by whining and complaining at the developers all the time do you?  If that's the case then they're better off playing another F2P game if they can find one as good as Hearthstone.

You continue to act like HS is the only (or even most) successful F2P game when League of Legends makes way more money has way more players and has lasted way longer.

HAHA since when did you have to spend money in League to get good in the game and to enjoy all the content?  Hearthstone is a different game where even if you spend money you gamble it in packs.  League is not that game.  Also, when will you ever hear F2P league players complaining that they cant afford purely cosmetic skins?

Are you kidding me??? League forums are full of people crying that its not fair they have less runes/pages/champs/ etc then players who pay. And that the game is P2W because that gives otehr players an advantage.

Back when I played for a bit, I spent all the gift cards I got on skins.  Granted I did grind a lot, 3 months in I already had everything I could ask for and did fine playing ranked.  Hope you realize that league probably makes 95% of their revenue from skins, not the other stuff.

Ofcourse they make most of their money of skins (not as much as your 100% made up number tho) because there are more of them than anything else. Each champ has like 3-8 skins so there is around 5x as many skins as champs. Obviously theyre gonna sell more.

But this has nothing to do with waht a company makes the most money on. You act like HS is the top F2P game when its not even a tiny tiny tiny bit close to LoL. Then you act like people only complain in HS when they complain just as much in literally all F2P games.

That's because nobody defines LoL as a P2W or F2P game, everybody defines it as a "pay whatever you want" game.

Literally everyone ever calls it a F2P game.... find me a source that calls is a 'pay whatever you want' game thats not you. Ill wait.

If that's literally the case then where is the argument that it's a P2W game that you made earlier???  Do you realize what thread you're in???  If people want a F2P game that they will never complain about then they should just go play LoL is what I'm getting from you.  And I'm not wrong, that's literally what the revenue model of LoL is.  Your original point was that LoL is a better F2P game than Hearthstone but you can't even realize that success in one game requires a little spending money when the other requires you to spend absolutely nothing.

I never made an argument that its a p2w game... I said other people have claimed that but I dont agree. I have no idea why you would think I was saying people should play LoL if they want a game they will never complain about since i actually said "Are you kidding me??? League forums are full of people crying that its not fair they have less runes/pages/champs/ etc then players who pay. And that the game is P2W because that gives otehr players an advantage.". Did you forget already? I clearly said even people complain about that game.

The only reason I bring up LoL is you repeatedly act like HS is the top F2P game when its not even close on any metric. Im sorry that youre such a fanboy you cant handle that your precious Blizzard isnt the best at something.

But yes you are wrong if you say LoL isnt a F2P game. Thats 100% fact and im still waiting on these sources of youre that say LoL is not a F2P game.

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Anyone. Who has ever invested money in MTG laughs at how inexpensive Hearthstone is. I am one of those. 

But as ive pointed out in MTG you can always sell your cards and get almost all (if not all) of your money back. So its a high entry cost but low sunk cost.

You're thinking of the useful cards in your decks.  What you forget are the hundreds or thousands of trash pickups, boosters that didn't give the cards you could use, or sell, decks you've made that didn't retain their value, and cards that you bought outright then sold at a cheaper price later.  The few upsells don't even come close to the money you spent in the game.  It's tricky to see since most people buy packs in small increments over years while they sell in large amounts (and have forgotten or thrown out the boxes of cards that won't sell in the meanwhile).

Thus no, MTG isn't a low sunk cost hobby.  It's a VERY expensive game that can be paid in small amounts and pays a small fraction back in the end.  Given that it took about $400 to get every single classic card and half of that to get GvG, and you don' tneed a tenth of that investment to make a top tier deck, Hearthstone costs a lot less than MTG.

 

But thats only if you actually buy boosters.... which if youre concerned about money you would never do. You would buy singles, so you wouldnt have any 'trash' cards. Unless ofcourse you wanted to. Which is again a choice you have in MTG and not in HS. And singles dont lose value hardly unless youre only playing standard and keep them until after rotation which is obviously your fault and also chances are if youre playing standard youre not playing for fun, youre playing in matches with prizes so youre winning stuff with your money.

If you play modern or legacy then the cards you buy will almost always hold their value... some cards will drop a little if there is a reprint but some will go up if there is not a reprint so it evens out. And again this is all stuff you have a choice on where to spend you money. You can buy a MTG deck and sell it a year later for the same price. Sure you cant buy boosters and sell them for the same price but I doubt anyone would even try that. You mention it took you $400 to get all the classic and some GVG but thats 100% lost money. You cant ever sell those. You can easily buy a modern deck like affinity in MTG for about 400 and sell it whenver you chose for about 400. So you need the big chunk of money to get started on a competitive level but you can get it back.

If youre buying boosters and getting a bunch of trash cards youre probably not really play competitively and just playing on your kitchen table in which case I doubt youd spend more than $50 since most casual players arent gonna care about getting a playset of Arid Mesas.

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i only bought the 2 adventures and im playing since december 2014. i have 15 legendaries almost every deck existing and now for TGT almost 3 k spare dust. i havent bought a single pack yet and i have decks like wallet warrior..... f2p is viable if you spend some time to the game every day. i wouldnt buy packs ever..... expansions are fine every 4-6 months 20$ isnt much but packs are way too expensive with 60$ you can buy 60 packs but with the same money you can buy a top real game like fallout 4 so i dont think its worth it.

the other problem about buying packs is that after a point where you collected almost all rare-common cards you wanted from the set you will start opening dust packs. cause you may need some legendaries or epics from the set still but its unlikely to open them. 

So your saying that F2P is viable, if you started playing a year ago, and spend some time every day to keep up with the daily quests? ( not trying to troll just trying to understand )

That's not what i call Free-2-Play and kind of proves that for new players who want a decent collection it's a really expensive game.

That's exactly my idea of F2P.  Some people take the easy way out by spending money, everyone else will have to work hard to get the full value out of the game if they want to enjoy it without spending a dime.  You don't expect a F2P player to get all the goodies in the game just by whining and complaining at the developers all the time do you?  If that's the case then they're better off playing another F2P game if they can find one as good as Hearthstone.

You continue to act like HS is the only (or even most) successful F2P game when League of Legends makes way more money has way more players and has lasted way longer.

HAHA since when did you have to spend money in League to get good in the game and to enjoy all the content?  Hearthstone is a different game where even if you spend money you gamble it in packs.  League is not that game.  Also, when will you ever hear F2P league players complaining that they cant afford purely cosmetic skins?

Are you kidding me??? League forums are full of people crying that its not fair they have less runes/pages/champs/ etc then players who pay. And that the game is P2W because that gives otehr players an advantage.

Back when I played for a bit, I spent all the gift cards I got on skins.  Granted I did grind a lot, 3 months in I already had everything I could ask for and did fine playing ranked.  Hope you realize that league probably makes 95% of their revenue from skins, not the other stuff.

Ofcourse they make most of their money of skins (not as much as your 100% made up number tho) because there are more of them than anything else. Each champ has like 3-8 skins so there is around 5x as many skins as champs. Obviously theyre gonna sell more.

But this has nothing to do with waht a company makes the most money on. You act like HS is the top F2P game when its not even a tiny tiny tiny bit close to LoL. Then you act like people only complain in HS when they complain just as much in literally all F2P games.

That's because nobody defines LoL as a P2W or F2P game, everybody defines it as a "pay whatever you want" game.

Literally everyone ever calls it a F2P game.... find me a source that calls is a 'pay whatever you want' game thats not you. Ill wait.

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Anyone. Who has ever invested money in MTG laughs at how inexpensive Hearthstone is. I am one of those. 

But as ive pointed out in MTG you can always sell your cards and get almost all (if not all) of your money back. So its a high entry cost but low sunk cost.